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Yesterday in the House of Assembly, Opposition Leader Roger Grimes
expressed concerns over recent reports that former Petroleum Products
Pricing Commissioner George Saunders, received a phone call at 10:30pm on a
Friday evening, informing him that his contract had not expired, as was
earlier reported to him by Government Services Minister Diane Whelan.
The dialogue from the House of Assembly is below:
MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MR. GRIMES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, last week in the House the Minister of Government Services
announced regressive and unnecessary changes to the Petroleum Products
Pricing Commission. She, in fact, stated that the contract for the
Commissioner expired today, May 25. Why did the former Commissioner receive
a phone call late Friday night, at the beginning of a long holiday weekend,
from the Deputy Minister of Government Services advising him that his
contract did not expire until the end of the month?
I ask the Minister of Government Services, why did she give the former
Commissioner a premature termination notice? Is it another example of the
government’’s bungling when it comes to the decision-making process or just
an example of the government’’s haste to remove a very effective
Commissioner and start pleasing the oil companies instead?
MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Government Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MS WHALEN: Mr. Speaker, an Order-in-Council was issued by the former
Administration, and even the Commissioner did not realize that his term was
up. May 25 was the end of the Commissioner’’s term and it was later
discovered that the previous Administration had rescinded that order and
issued another Order-in-Council.
Thank you.
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER: A supplementary, the hon. the Leader of the Opposition.
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MR. GRIMES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
So, the minister admits that she did not know the details before she made
the announcement last week. It is not surprising, Mr. Speaker, to this side
of the House, I can tell you, for sure. Mr. Speaker, was this, in fact, the
minister’’s attempt to hide the fact that she made another fairly serious
blunder or was this just another work in progress similar to the Budget
documents that she described a couple of weeks ago?
I ask the minister, Mr. Speaker: Why did you request that the former
Commissioner submit a resignation effective yesterday, yesterday, a
resignation effective yesterday in exchange for an extra week of salary and
benefits until the end of May? Who directed the deputy minister to make this
late night phone call on Friday night asking the former Commissioner to
resign so he could be guaranteed an extra week’’s pay and benefit?
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Government Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MS WHALEN: Mr. Speaker, myself and the Commissioner had a
conversation and, as far as I was concerned, his contract was up May 25. He
informed me at that time that he was relieved, that he had a job waiting, a
campaign job, that he was very pleased with his work at the Commission, and
was very pleased with the government. In fact, right now the PUB will be
taking over that Commission, and effective today there will be a new
Commissioner in place.
Thank you.
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER: A supplementary, the hon. the Leader of the Opposition.
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MR. GRIMES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, let me try to ask the question again, because I believe it
needs clarification.
Could the minister tell the House and the people of the Province, who
directed her Deputy Minister to call the former Commissioner late on Friday
night, at the beginning of a long holiday weekend, and ask that he send in a
letter of resignation, when last week she stood in this House and announced
that he was terminated effective today? The question was: Who gave the
instruction to try and bribe the Commissioner to submit a letter of
resignation in exchange for an extra week’’s pay? That is the question, Mr.
Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Government Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MS WHALEN: Mr. Speaker, for all intents and purposes a new Commission
was going to start on the 25th of May. The previous Commissioner
and myself had that conversation and we both agreed that he did a fine job,
and he said that he had new employment waiting. He was very agreeable with
the Deputy, from my sources; that he was delighted to send a letter of
resignation into the department.
Thank you.
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.
MR. GRIMES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, let me ask the question again, because if we are not going
to get the answer in the House, the people of the Province will get the
answer sometime, somewhere. I expect we should get it in the House of
Assembly.
I ask the Minister: Why did you rush the termination before the effective
date, and, then, who instructed the Deputy Minister to request a letter of
resignation which has not appeared? I have seen a copy of the letter that
was sent to the minister today, Mr. Speaker. There is no resignation. Why
did the government feel it was important to try to have the former
Commissioner resign his position instead of being terminated at the end of
his contract, at the end of May, as the law and his contract would dictate,
Mr. Speaker?
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Government Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!
MS WHALEN: Mr. Speaker, the PUB was notified that the Mr. Noseworthy
would be the new Commissioner taking over the PPPC. The conversation, as I
was informed by my Deputy, was that Mr. Saunders would submit a resignation
today, effective May 24. He will be paid an extra week, but what I would
like to ask the Leader of the Opposition: Why did they rescind the first
order and make it a second order, was it to give a political appointee
another week’’s pay? |