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Oral Questions
December 3, 2008

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MS JONES:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, in questioning the Premier yesterday with the economy, he certainly expressed some sentiments that government might spend so much money over the next year that the economy may overheat in Newfoundland and Labrador. All the while he was making his response, Wabush Mines was letting their employees know that there was going to be 160 people out of work, in addition to the contracts that would be cancelled. So, Mr. Speaker, it is a devastating hit for this community.

I ask the minister today: What is the plan, on behalf of her ministry and the department, to be able to mitigate what the impact is going to be on this town and the people that are involved?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier and Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

This is a very serious situation for the workers at Wabush Mines, and for the Town of Wabush and Labrador City as well, Mr. Speaker.

I have set up a meeting, late next week or early the next week, with Wabush Mines to talk with the management about their plans. I am encouraged at this point in time, that they are looking at early retirement and trying to find other measures to lessen the impact on the workers at this time, Mr. Speaker.

What is happening in Wabush is a result of a worldwide economic crisis, and the response to that is broader than Wabush also, Mr. Speaker. So that is why we are looking with great interest to Ottawa, once they resolve their current situation, to see what kind of a stimulus package that they will come forward with.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, I think the message might actually be getting through to this minister that this economic worldwide crisis is going to impact us in Newfoundland and Labrador as well. When I asked her about the economy in the last few days, it was business as usual and steady as she goes, was her responses, Mr. Speaker, in Hansard.

Anyway, I say to the minister, Wabush Mines made it known at least a week ago that there could be some downsizing in their operation. Have you had an opportunity to talk to the company over the period of the last week or so, and have you made any overtures on behalf of government in terms of the role that you might be able to play in mitigating the loss of employment there?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Leader of the Opposition never lets the facts get in the way of a good story.

When I talked last week, Mr. Speaker, I was answering questions with regard to IOC and what they had told me, and what they had said was that they were continuing their operations, it was steady as she goes and business as usual; they were delaying their expansion plans, but they were doing everything possible to maintain their permanent workforce, and that was good news.

We also heard from Wabush Mines last week that, because of the 50 per cent reduction in production in the steel market worldwide, it was going to have an impact on their operations in Wabush.

We are in daily contact, Mr. Speaker, with these companies.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Well, if the minister is so engaged, she will know that the reason IOC has not been laying off employees is because they are going to maintain a maintenance program over a longer period of time.

Wabush Mines was also scheduled to invest $100 million in the upgrades in their mining operation. Maybe she can tell me why they have postponed that maintenance program instead of doing it now at a time when the economy could use the investment.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The answer is quite simple and understood by everybody, I think, in this Province and in the country. It is because of the loss of markets.

Wabush is involved, at this point in time, in a pilot project with regard to their manganese reduction, which will have a significant impact on the life of that mine, Mr. Speaker. That is a piece of work that is critical in the long term, and I am happy to report to the House here today that they are going to continue with that piece of investment.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, we also heard from Harvest Energy that they were going to put their expansion programs on hold for the Come By Chance oil refinery project. Mr. Speaker, in a quote that I heard from the CEO there, he said refineries must expand or eventually close.

I ask the minister: Can you give us an update as to what is going on with the Come By Chance expansion project and what it will mean to the long-term future of that operation?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am happy to report that yesterday morning I had a meeting with John Zahary and his officials from Harvest Energy and we had a long conversation about the future of the refinery in Come By Chance, which is very bright.

They are currently looking for a partner for their $2 billion expansion. In the meantime they see that their operations can continue as they are now, and they are confident that they will find the investment they require - not at the present time; it is a bit of a struggle. They understand that investment is very tight at the moment, but they have delayed their plans, they have not shelved their plans, and they are very confident in the operations that are happening in Come by Chance at the moment.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is quite obvious that the minister said – actually, a couple of times in a row - that she is monitoring what is happening in the Province. I am not sure that just monitoring it and waiting in your office for the phone to ring to tell you the next amount of layoffs in the next mine or the next oil refinery is the approach to that.

Minister, I ask you: Are you prepared to take further action and to lead discussions with the industrial sector in Newfoundland and Labrador with the business community to look at what is going to be required as economic stimulus investment in order to keep our economy rolling?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we are engaged with our industrial partners in this Province on a daily basis. Nowhere, at no time, do I sit in my office waiting to react to bad news. We are fully engaged. We are fully aware. We are supportive. We look for advice. We look to have our policies and programs informed by the people involved in the different industries in this Province, and we have an excellent relationship with people who are involved in industrial development here in this Province. Much like the Grand Falls issue, Mr. Speaker, when the Opposition become engaged we usually have a year or a year-and-a-half work under our belt.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My question is for the Minister of Education.

The minister’s heavy-handed interference in the appointment of a new president has caused some serious disruption in the planning process of Memorial University. In fact, Mr. Speaker, the government is bringing forward a motion today to try and express their regret for what happened, and her interference.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister: Given the fact that the search committee at the university was disbanded because of the interference by yourself and the Premier in the Province, can you tell me when that search committee will now be put back in place and when we can look forward to seeing a new president instated?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Government House Leader and Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, as the hon. member would know, we just recently appointed a new Chair to the Board of Regents at Memorial University. I had the opportunity to speak with the new Chair very briefly a couple of times in the last week. I certainly look forward to having a meeting with him in the very near future and we hope to get the presidential search started as soon as possible.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, it is our understanding that the Board of Regents has also appointed an ad hoc committee to recommend changes to the Memorial University Act, which will strengthen the autonomy of the university and in turn eliminate the interference of government in that process.

I ask the minister: Will you be listening to the recommendations that will come forward from this committee, and are you prepared to look at legislative changes if that is what they require?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, I certainly welcome the report from the ad hoc committee that will come to government through the Board of Regents. We will certainly take it very seriously. We will look at it. As a government, we will do the analysis and we will make decisions and act what we feel is in the best interest of the university and the people in Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, earlier today we received a report on adverse health events in the Province. Mr. Speaker, we have only had a very short briefing of this report. It is a comprehensive piece of work, but it appears that many of the recommendations we feel are there to certainly improve the system, and unfortunately it seems like a lot of these improvements are resting on the hands of the regional health authorities and not on that of the ministry.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister today if he would be prepared to bring forward changes to ensure that once the Minister of Health is advised of adverse health events within the Province, that the legislation will require that it be reported to the public?

MR. SPEAKER: Order please!

The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am delighted that the member opposite has acknowledged the fine piece of work that that taskforce has done. It is an excellent piece of work I say, Mr. Speaker. It is a very comprehensive piece of work. It covers a wide range of issues from policy to legislation. It talks about the role of the health authorities. It talks about a whole new reporting process; it talks about some significant investments that need to be made to make some improvements; it talks about a process and structure, I say, Mr. Speaker. So it is very comprehensive.

Now, what I had indicated this morning, and the member opposite would have had some representation at that meeting that I had. I had indicated then that government only received the report in detail yesterday. We need some time to evaluate the recommendations that are in that report. I acknowledged this morning with a media briefing that there were some things there of a policy nature that we can move on immediately, and we intend to do that. Some of the other things require much more reflection and to help inform our decision –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please.

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please.

I ask the hon. minister to conclude his answer.

MR. WISEMAN: By leave, I will just clue up. Thank you.

To help us inform that decision, we await the Cameron Inquiry’s report as well, to help inform some components of it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, it is felt that if there was a requirement in law, making it mandatory for the Ministry of Health to report these issues, we may not have ever required the services of the Cameron Inquiry.

I ask the minister, in light of this: Will you please have another look, when you are reviewing the recommendations, and ensure that there is statutory law requiring the ministry to make the reports public and to do what should have been done in the incidents around ER-PR testing in this Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, in the same way this morning, in talking about the report, I acknowledged the great work that Mr. Thompson and his task force had done, and thanked them for their work and indicated that we would be reviewing the report and giving it full consideration.

In that same vein, I thanked the member opposite for her recommendation today and we, too, will take that into consideration as we ponder what we will do. I can rest assured of one thing, Mr. Speaker, that we will be swift in our response, we will be appropriate in our response, because we are committed. We are committed, as I have said in this House many times. We are committed to quality health care in this Province. I think the investments we have made over the last five years clearly reflect our intent to strengthen and build the Province’s health care system. Our focus in the last twelve months, with so many initiatives we have already announced - the accreditation of labs, strengthening of management information systems – reflects our commitment to quality. So I will take your recommendation into consideration. As Cabinet colleagues, we will also consider the recommendations you have made in the past to us. So thank you very much for that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My question is for the Minister of Justice.

I have asked the past couple of days about the release of a certain report, the one that was done on correctional facilities. I must go back again to another question that I raised, to which an answer was not given by the minister, and that concerns the death of a thirty-one-year-old gentleman at HMP in March.

I understand, again, from the family, the father of the person in question, that he has met recently, on November 28, with the minister, and from March to now, nine months, he has been trying to get an autopsy report, a report from HMP as to what happened to his son, or from the medical examiner and he has gotten absolutely nothing.

Is there anything, Minister, that you can do to expedite the release of these documents and this information so that this family will have some idea as to what happened to their son?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I did meet with the father of the individual who, unfortunately, lost his life when incarcerated. Since that time, I have discussed this matter with various officials. I am awaiting the final report of the Chief Medical Officer. I am asking my officials to explore the options that are available to me, as minister, and when we have those options, we will make an appropriate decision and will contact the father and tell him.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the gentleman in question has indicated that the report of the Medical Examiner has been draft form for some time now, and he has requested it. Surely, there must be something more that you can do other than say we will give it to you sometime in the future.

Can’t you exert some authority, some pressure, some influence, on the Medical Examiner so this family can bring some closure to this issue, or else decide what needs to be done?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: I am advised that there is a draft report in at the department but obviously we have to wait for the final report, because the final report might be different from the draft.

I do undertake that as soon as I have that report – and I will be very happy to call the Chief Medical Examiner and ask if he could expedite the matter. When I have the report I will be happy to give it to the father, and I will be pleased to do so.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you.

Minister, we also had a report from the Office of the Citizens’ Representative in June, 2007, done about the women’s correctional facility at Clarenville, which outlines a number of major, major issues and why that place is in such a terrible state. In fact, I understand it has been under lockdown now for the past three or four weeks, as indicated by the minister to the media last week. Some of the reports indicate that a counselling team, Mr. Speaker, has not even been in the facility since 2006.

I ask the minister: Are you aware of the existence of this Citizens’ Representative Report of 2007, and has anything been done to act upon that report, or is it merely sitting on the shelf somewhere? Can you tell us that, Mr. Speaker?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There was a report from the Citizens’ Representative - I think it was, as the hon. member said, in June of 2007 - in which he made five recommendations. One was for the Department of Health and four were for the Department of Justice.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. members for their co-operation.

The hon. the Minister of Justice and Attorney General.

MR. T. MARSHALL: Mr. Speaker, as I said, there was a report by the Citizens’ Representative in June 2007 and there were five recommendations made to government. One was for the Department of Health and the others were for the Department of Justice.

I can tell the hon. member that one of the recommendations was to institute video conferencing equipment at Clarenville, and that has been done. I can also tell the hon. member that on each Friday there is either a mental health or an addictions counsellor provided by Eastern Health. As well, there is a facilities classification officer who is a social worker and provides ongoing consultation to inmates. There was a recommendation that a package, containing information about community supports, be made available to the inmates of that institution, and that is being done. There was also -

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. minister to conclude his answer.

MR. T. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There was a recommendation that a pretrial detention centre be erected in Happy Valley-Goose Bay for the benefit of Aboriginal women who are inmates, and (inaudible).

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I wonder if the minister could indicate whether or not – again, this is another report, yet another report that was done on the correction facilities submitted to the former minister in September of this year – if, in fact, the report of September included recommendations as well as to what should be done at Clarenville in addition to what the Citizens’ Representative pointed out in June 2007?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Mr. Speaker, I do not know if this is a first for this House but I could not hear the question from the hon. member. I ask him to repeat it, please.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Certainly, Mr. Speaker.

My question deals with the issue of: there was a Citizens’ Representative report in June 2007 which the minister just responded to. We also know of the existence of a corrections facility report that was submitted to the Department of Justice at the end of September this year. That report is yet to be released. Can the minister tell us at least whether the situation at Clarenville, which we was addressed by the Citizens’ Representative in 2007, was that also commented upon and does that form part of this yet to be released report that was submitted to the Department of Justice in September of this year?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I think the report was submitted on October 1 of this year, just to be correct. The report, as I indicated, is very comprehensive, very all-encompassing. I think you may recall that when my predecessor, the Minister of Finance, who was Minister of Justice when he released the report, the terms of reference were publicized at that time and they were very broad; looking at terms of reference to look at the management, look at the organizational structure, look at every institution, including Clarenville, including Whitbourne – no, not Whitbourne, I am sorry, the seven correctional institutions - to look at labour relations, to look at health, to look at mental health as well. As I said, there were seventy-seven recommendations, a very broad report, and we look forward to its very imminent release.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.


MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

We are already aware that we have had undertakings from the government. The former minister committed a release before the House opened, and that is not done. It is probably going to wilt again on the shelves in the department.

I ask the minister - I read and heard a copy of an interview that you gave to the media last week dealing with the situation at Clarenville, and in particular the lockdown that is occurring there. At that time you made a statement, Minister, that some of the problems at Clarenville might be resolved if the inmates there were moved to a federal institution.

I am wondering if you might clarify this situation, because my understanding is that this Province has an exchange service agreement with the federal government whereby we in fact want to, in most cases, have federal prisoners here, and in fact the federal government pays a per diem to have them. So I am a bit confused about your comment that if they leave Clarenville to be put in federal institutions that will resolve it.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. member to pose his question.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Yet we have a deal to keep them here.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we do have, as the hon. member indicated, and I am sure a lot of the citizens of this Province would be interested to know, we have an agreement with the federal government that people sentenced to federal time can stay in our provincial institutions. As a result of that we have asked, on numerous occasions, for the federal government to share with us the joint cost of a new penitentiary for the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador; but, of course, certain inmates who are sentenced to federal time would, for certain advantages that they perceive may be available in federal institutions –

AN HON. MEMBER: (Inaudible) transferred (inaudible).

MR. T. MARSHALL: Yes, they will want to be transferred. They will want to go to federal institutions. So I am not talking about forcing people to leave. I am talking about those who have applied to go to a federal institution and were simply awaiting the time when they would be transferred.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Government recently rejected the idea of constructing a causeway to Long Island. It is a very short distance, Mr. Speaker, across the tickle to Pilley’s Island, and residents feel this project would be of great benefit to the region.

I ask the Minister of Transportation and Works: Is government willing to listen to the people of Long Island and reconsider the decision of cancelling the causeway?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

In the interest of giving the House as much time as possible, Mr. Speaker, I will make a very short answer: No.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I thank the minister for his answer.

My next question is: Since the causeway project was cancelled and it is not going to be reconsidered, the people of Long Island have continually been ignored and dismissed by this government. That is their feeling, Mr. Speaker. Most recently, the dedicated ferry service to the island has been diminished and the number of ferry trips has been reduced.

I ask the minister: Why has government diminished the Long Island ferry service when there is a need for it to be improved rather than weakened?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, if the previous government had spent a bit of money on our ferry fleet instead of buying, as our former colleague in the House used to say, a rust bucket from Russia, if they had spent some decent money on ferries and had a good, sensible vessel maintenance and replacement program, maybe we would not be in the predicament that we are with ferries in the Province right now.

The fact of the matter is that we have an old, decrepit fleet of ferries. We all know that. We went through an exhaustive planning process for a vessel replacement strategy. We are in the process of implementing that replacement strategy. We are in the process of beginning the construction on two new ferries.

Mr. Speaker, as part of that plan, as part of the development of that strategy, we had a very hard look at the ferry services in the Province, the number of people that use them, the times of the day that they use those ferries and, Mr. Speaker, that was the basis for the reorganization of the ferry system and schedule on Long Island.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, regardless, whether it was a rust bucket from Russia or wherever, it is little consultation to the people in those communities. They feel frustrated, knowing the growing concerns with medical emergencies and access to services being negatively impacted.

I ask the minister: In the absence of a causeway, is government willing to return to the dedicated ferry service to the people of Long Island?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as the member opposite would know, and I am sure the people on Long Island know, most people in the Province know, because of the age of our ferry fleet we have, from time to time, vessels breaking down. We do not have, on many occasions, another vessel that we can move into service. I do not think anybody sees ferries down tied onto the waterfront here on a regular basis, Mr. Speaker. If they are, it is because they are in there going on dock for repairs. They are old. We have to try and manage a fleet in a way that we can get it through the longest possible time period while we are in the process of replacing the fleet.

Mr. Speaker, we have outlined what we are going to do in the Long Island area, and that is based on a very exhaustive evaluation of the conditions there. I do not believe there will be any changes in the foreseeable future.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill – Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yesterday, the Minister of Government Services did not answer my question regarding specific cancers that had been proven to be related to firefighting. Instead, the minister gave a general answer on the professionalism of the Occupational Health and Safety officers.

Mr. Speaker, there are a number of specific cancers that have been proven to be related to firefighting and are recognized in other jurisdictions.

So I ask the minister today: When is this Province going to introduce presumptive cancer legislation as is being requested by the firefighters’ associations?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Government Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, as I said yesterday, we are not actually replacing anything. As a matter of fact, what we are doing is – or getting rid of anything, we are actually replacing it.

What we are doing is proposing to get rid of section 24 and replace it with section 23 of the WHSC regulations, and then section 23 will be referenced in our regulations in OHS.

Section 23 is a more authoritative list and it certainly gets updated automatically. As a matter of fact, Mr. Speaker, I have in my hands two of the lists: Occupational Health and Safety section 24 of the regulations list, which is one page, thirteen diseases, and the workers health and safety commission section 23 regulations, which is five pages, thirty diseases, which is updated automatically at any given time in regards to the experts in the field.

I am not an expert in regard to diseases, so we depend on the advisory council in workers’ compensation and they –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. member to conclude his answer.

MR. O'BRIEN: - certainly bring those things forward.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill – Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The minister might not be an expert in diseases but he is an expert in not answering questions, because he still has not answered it. So, I will move on.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MS MICHAEL: My question now is for the Minister of Finance.

Mr. Speaker, I, and I am sure other MHAs are receiving many calls from constituents asking when government is going to release the home heating rebate for this year. Mr. Speaker, last year we heard stories of seniors going to malls to stay warm. In a have province, this is not acceptable. In spite of the fact that we are having a warm spell and it has not gotten too cold yet in this part of the Province, this is still an issue. We cannot have people choosing between food, rent and heat.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister of Finance: When is the government going to announce the home heating rebate for this year?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Finance and President of Treasury Board.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

By way of preamble, the last three years of the Liberal reign, 2000-2001, there was a $100 rebate, nothing in 2001-2002, nothing in 2002-2003. Last year, we announced a program on December 15 – excuse me, in 2006-2007, we announced on December 15; 2007-2008, we announced it on December 6. Last year the rebate -

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. KENNEDY: - was $300 for households using oil; $200 rebate for electricity, wood or other heating service; $400 for Coastal Labrador; 76,400 families benefited last year, a $17.5 million program. I am pleased to tell -

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. minister to conclude his answer.

MR. KENNEDY: The announcement will come shortly.

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