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May 15, 2008

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MR. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My questions are for the Premier.

Premier, under section 14 of the Conflict of Interest Act, which was most recently amended in 2007, the Lieutenant-Governor in Council is supposed to appoint a Conflict of Interest Advisory Committee. I am wondering if you could confirm the existence of this committee and the names of the persons who currently sit on it?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: I will take that under advisement, and advise. I do not know the answer to that question.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. PARSONS: Thank you.

Premier, under section 14 of the Conflict of Interest Act, the Conflict of Interest Advisory Committee once struck, it says is required to "advise deputy ministers and chief operating officers on their duties under this Act."

I am wondering if you could also determine, when you make your inquires, whether Mr. Andy Wells was in fact - who is currently the Chair and Chief Executive Officer of the Public Utilities Board, whether he was in fact ever advised by the Advisory Committee of his ethical duties under the Conflict of Interest Act?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The question that is being put before the House in this Question Period by the member opposite is, I assume, as a result of certain activities that are taking place in the city at this time.

I understand that Kevin Breen and a group of his friends are organizing an appreciation dinner for Andy Wells in recognition of thirty years of public service. I have spoken to Mr. Breen with regard to that this morning. As well, I have also spoken to Andy Wells. I want to assure this House, Mr. Speaker, that if there is any violation of conflict of interest requirements or any hint of impropriety, this government will deal with it. Both of those gentlemen have offered to me and to the Premier a list of participants that will attend this dinner and we will scrutinize for any conflict whatsoever, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I appreciate the comments of the minister but, again, we would still like the information from the advisory committee, whether Mr. Wells was in fact advised of his responsibilities under the act.

Under section 15 of the Conflict of Interest Act, a public office holder is obligated to disclose in advance, in writing, full particulars of any activity that may contravene the act to his or her deputy minister or chief operating officer.

Was the Premier’s office or any other department or deputy minister of government contacted by Mr. Wells in advance, in writing, regarding his plans for this, apparently, solicitation of funds?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

PREMIER WILLIAMS: Mr. Speaker, the minister has been assured that there is no conflict of interest; based on the information that has been provided to me, through the minister, I am assured at this point that there is no conflict of interest, whatsoever.

This issue did not come to my office. This issue came to our attention through David Cochrane, a reporter with CBC, who indicated that this was a possible story and asked for our comment on it. We indicated at that time we had absolutely no knowledge of any dinner or any fundraiser or anything that was going on. Since then we have taken it upon us, because it has arisen as a story for whatever merit, to check into this and we are quite satisfied that there is absolutely no conflict of interest, whatsoever.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. PARSONS: Thank you.

With all due respect, Premier, there is a process. The process says there is an advisory committee, which was supposed to have been struck and had a membership. The law requires that Mr. Wells, I would submit, was required in advance to get the opinion of the advisory committee. It is not a case of Mr. Wells or anyone else saying, we are doing this now after the fact and we are doing it properly and there is no conflict. That has to be determined by the committee, and I suggest that it is not proper for a government to accept that person’s word on it.

My question is, Premier, again: Will you ask the members of the advisory committee, can you verify or Mr. Wells verify that in advance of this solicitation, that he approached the committee and had clearance to do this?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: Yes, we will, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. PARSONS: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, section 7.(1) of the Conflict of Interest Act says, "A public office holder shall not, directly or indirectly, accept a fee, gift or personal benefit, except compensation authorized by law, that is connected, directly or indirectly, with the performance of his or her duties."

Given that the Conflict of Interest Act -

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. member knows quite well that he is to refer to documents and not to read from them. I ask the member to either paraphrase or quote the document as he knows it.

MR. PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Given that the act requires and makes that statement, I would ask the Premier: Will you undertake, Premier, to have the Conflict of Interest Advisory Committee investigate this matter?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

In my conversations this morning the one thing that Mr. Breen was very careful to point out, that when he discussed this matter with Mr. Wells the one caveat that he was strictly given was not to engage anybody in any aspect of this appreciation dinner that could appear before Mr. Wells in his duties as Commissioner.

There is no conflict of interest here, Mr. Speaker. Both Mr. Breen and Mr. Wells have offered to the Premier, and to myself, the list of people who will attend this dinner to ensure that we can see quite clearly that there is no conflict of interest and there is no impropriety.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. PARSONS: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, I say again to the minister, it is not a case for the minister or the Premier to decide if what Mr. Wells or Mr. Breen says is okay. There is an advisory committee established by law which is supposed to determine those things.

I ask the Premier: Will you ask the advisory committee to investigate the matter? That is pretty straightforward.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: I have already answered that question, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. PARSONS: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, in 2004, in October actually, this government had no problem strictly following the conflict of interest guidelines in the case of top officials at the College of the North Atlantic. The then Minister of Justice, the Member for Humber East, in fact, initiated through the Department of Justice an investigation and referred it to the authorities. That was in the case of where some top officials were allegedly receiving money from the Quatar government, and in that case, they were dismissed.

I ask the Premier: Will you ask Mr. Wells to step aside from the Public Utilities Board until the investigation is completed?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: Absolutely not, Mr. Speaker. I am not going to discuss the CONA matter because I understand that is now before the courts and that will be dealt with accordingly.

There is nothing being done wrong here. We have assurance from the people who organized a dinner to thank someone for thirty years of public service as a public official - done with good intentions. We have checked into it. We have asked all the right questions as to what was involved, who was involved, if there is any possible conflict with Mr. Wells’ role as Chairman of the Public Utilities Board, and we are quite satisfied that in fact that is not the case. Now that requires, as requested, a check by the Conflict of Interest Committee – no problem – but as for asking someone to resign because someone wants to go out and have a dinner in his honour to pay tribute for thirty years of public service, not likely.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My questions are for the Minister of Health and Community Services.

Newfoundland and Labrador has the highest prevalence rate of diabetes in Canada, and we understand that the lead physician for adult diabetes care in this Province has tendered their resignation and is leaving this summer. No replacement has yet been identified.

I ask: What will be the impact of losing this physician, and the effect on the delivery of service to adult diabetes patients in the Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Any time we get a resignation of a very capable, competent health professional in this Province, obviously we are disappointed by that, and hopefully they would have made a different decision, but I understand she has made some decisions about her future career and where she would want to pursue that, and I wish her well.

With respect to her role, obviously she was making a major contribution, as were a number of other people, I say, Mr. Speaker. That particular physician was residing here in St. John’s, but there are many other physicians in the Province who are very actively engaged in providing care and treatment to their respective patients – many of whom have diabetes – and they will continue to provide that care.

We have, over the last two years in particular, been working very diligently as a department, working with our four authorities, in developing a strategy around chronic disease management. Diabetes happens to be one of those chronic diseases.

The activities that this doctor was involved with will continue, with the people who are around that particular team.

MR. SPEAKER: I ask the hon. minister to conclude his answer.

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

A significant piece of foundation work has been done, and the work will continue with the other people who were a part of that process with her.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

In addition to this physician tendering her notice, we also are aware that one of the nurses who has the expertise in insulin pump therapy in the Province – and there are two that run two separate clinics in the city – that one of these particular nurses will also retire in June, and that patients have already been given notification that no new adults will be able to receive insulin pumps in this Province over the course of the summer months, and it will be reviewed again in September.

This is a tremendous gap in service for these patients, Minister, and I ask if there is any plan to deal with this, or if the service will just be eroded for several months?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The question is very specific around one of the functions of this particular nurse, with respect to insulin pumps, and I have not been made aware that adults will no longer be able to access insulin pumps because of it, but I obviously will endeavour to undertake and to find out if that is, in fact, the case; because, obviously, the fact that one person would leave should not result in our not being able to provide supports for individuals who are getting insulin pumps to be able to be orientated to the use of that and understand how it will change the management of their diabetes. That should not happen, I say, Mr. Speaker, so I will endeavour to get an answer for the member.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, patients have informed us that they have been told that this service will be suspended over the course of the next three to four months, and that it will be reviewed in September.

I ask if you will take it upon yourself to see what is happening here, and if there is a way that the service can be reinstated over the summer months.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, if the member opposite does not mind repeating questions, I do not mind repeating the answer.

The answer is yes; I just told her I would.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Minister.

My next questions are for the Minister of Education.

Mr. Speaker, I would like to continue with some of the questions related to a potential criminal matter involving the International Student Exchange Program through the Department of Education. I have asked some questions in the House in the last few days on this.

Maybe I should direct this question to the Premier.

The student recruiter who eventually took her concerns to the police actually made contact with the Premier’s office on February 5, 2007, through the Premier’s Principal Assistant. In an e-mail response on February 6 from that assistant, he said that this alleged fraud and misappropriation of funds would be brought to the attention of the Premier at the earliest opportunity.

I ask the Premier: When were you advised of this potential criminal wrongdoing?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, this information came to government and it came to me, as Minister of Education, through the agent, Ms Lisa O’Neill, in August 2007. Prior to that, the information had been shared with the school board who sought legal opinion, who dealt with the issue.

We are talking about: When did it go to the police and who reported it to the police? Well, Mr. Speaker, through the government processes, it landed on my desk in August 2007 and I reviewed it. I took it very seriously and I made sure it was turned over to the police.

What is really important to remember here is, when this agent felt there was criminal activity going on, at any point in time, rather than go to the school board or the government, this person - and she basically did, at some point, go to the police - she had the option, at any point in time, feeling if there was criminal activity that affected her or her business, to take it to the police.

MR. SPEAKER: I ask the hon. minister to conclude her answer.

MS BURKE: I just want to conclude by saying, when it came to me through the government processes and I had a time to meet with Lisa O’Neill, I certainly took the issue seriously and we made sure it was reported to the police.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have no idea why the Premier would duck this question. It is pretty straightforward. I have copies of e-mails that were sent to his office, e-mails that were returned from your office to the individual.

A simple question, Premier: When were you made aware of this situation?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: In March 2007, as the Minister of Education, I was made aware of the fact that there was an issue, or a potential issue, with an employee at Eastern School District. I was also advised at that time that the school board had sought legal counsel and had been working with legal counsel and working in compliance with the collective agreement that was in place to deal with that issue. I also understand that issue was also referred to the Board of Trustees at that time so they could make a decision on this case.

Mr. Speaker, as government, if we knew that there was an issue with an employee at the school board, we would expect that the school board, through the Schools Act and through their responsibility of what they need to do, would take action on that matter. We understood the school board was doing that.

Mr. Speaker, subsequently, when I met with Ms Lisa O’Neill, I felt that we should take the matter a bit further.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would like to ask the Premier: What action was taken by him, or his office, when they received notice of this misappropriation of funds back in February 2007?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, as Minister of Education, I am certainly responsible to deal with matters that come to me regarding the educational system or boards in Newfoundland and Labrador.

This matter came to my attention in March. I asked what was going on. I was told it was being dealt with appropriately. It came back to my attention through another means in August 2007. Again, rather than saying, oh, I have already been briefed, I know what is going on - I got the documents, I reviewed them, and I called Ms Lisa O’Neill. I set up a meeting. I met with her, along with officials, and we continued to follow up.

Mr. Speaker, when we followed up, we referred the matter to the police. We also have a formal program evaluation going on to that program. I wanted a financial analysis as to what was going on. I wanted a legal opinion as to whether or not the board should be provided in this type of business.

Mr. Speaker, we did follow up and there has been a lot on work done in this area.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: I have no idea why the Premier is ducking these questions, but it is quite obvious that -

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS JONES: It is quite obvious that the minister is unable to answer for him, because the minister continues to claim that she knew about it in March. I am talking about notification in February.

Mr. Speaker, the minister said in the House yesterday that the student recruiter had presented her with a package of information related to this potential criminal wrongdoing in August 2007.

I ask minister: What was contained in this package? Was it just print material? Was it video or visual material, and was there any kind of audio clips as well?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, I would first like to address, many times we hear the Opposition criticize this government and refer to our Premier as a one-man show; but, Mr. Speaker, this is an example of where the Premier understands that issues are dealt with in the departments by the ministers and we have the authority to deal with these matters.

There are many times matters enter government through various doors, through various departments or the Premier’s office, and they are routed to the particular department that deals with it. This is a particular case.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, when I met with Ms Lisa O’Neill, she provided me with an envelope of documents. There was no audio tape; there was no video. I saw the video on the news.

I was asked to produce some letters that we had, to follow up that, and I can table it once we are finished Question Period, when I find it here - I do have a letter to table here in the House that will say that, while it is under active police investigation, the police have requested that there is certain information that I should not table as public documents that could interfere with that criminal investigation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, I say to the minister, this is obviously one issue that his office did not pass on to you, because we know that their office knew in February; you claim that you did not know until March 2007.

Mr. Speaker, my question again for the minister is that, when she had this information in her possession - notwithstanding the fact that she was notified back in March and did not act in her capacity as a minister to report this to the police, notwithstanding that - when she was provided with information and evidence in August, why did you, Minister, not turn this over to the police immediately so that there could be an investigation?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Let me explain again.

On August 30, 2007, I received a package of documents. I reviewed those documents and I phoned Ms Lisa O’Neill and scheduled a meeting for September 6. On August 31, the following day, I asked if there was any further information within the department.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS BURKE: I also advised, that day, for the officials to contact the police.

It is my understanding that the officials consulted with the Department of Justice and basically asked the question of whether or not it had been dealt with, and did the board have the legal authority to deal with it or should we do anything here?

The information, the decision we got back, or the opinion from Justice, was yes, this was a board matter and they had dealt with it and it was in their authority.

I was not satisfied that we asked the right question and I said, no, I want to know, should we turn this over to the police? That was what my gut was telling me: let’s turn this over to the police.

I had a subsequent meeting –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. minister to conclude her answer.

MS BURKE: I had a subsequent meeting with an official from the Department of Justice, and following that meeting there was a letter gone to the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary that indicated that we had this information and we felt it should be investigated.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister: At any time did you receive advice, legal or otherwise, telling you that you should not go to the police and report this matter? Very simple.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

Before I recognize the minister, I say to the hon. Leader of the Opposition, this is a line of questioning that concerned me yesterday. The hon. member ought not to ask and seek information on legal advice. That is clearly unparliamentary, and your question is out of order.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, I will try and rephrase my question differently, and if it is out of order I do apologize.

My question, Mr. Speaker, is to the minister, and I am asking her: In her capacity as a minister, did anyone advise her not to report this incident to the police?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, as the person who had this information, and who had concerns, I wanted to make sure that I asked the question, that it was understood that my request was to turn it over to the police.

I am absolutely assured, and I can assure the hon. members here today, that when I said I felt it should go to the police, when I met with an official of Justice and I was very clear with that request and my question, that is actually when it happened.

Mr. Speaker, I made sure that direct question was asked so that I knew that the opinion coming back was a result of that particular question. When I asked it, it was probably within twenty-four hours that it was turned over to the police.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Again, Mr. Speaker, the minister knows she went to the police only after she had this information in her possession for months and months and months, and the police had already been notified.

I ask you, Minister: Who advised you not to table any documents or provide information to us in the House because of an investigation that is ongoing?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, because this is a matter under police investigation, I am certainly seeking a legal opinion as to what documents I can table here in the House. When I have an opinion to indicate – when they go through the documents and indicate what can be tabled, I will do that.

In the meantime, I do have a letter from the RNC which I will table – it is here in my possession today – that indicates that they feel that this information, if I release it now, will interfere with a criminal investigation, and I really do not feel that I should do that.

Once the criminal investigation is over, certainly the documents can be tabled.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, what I do not understand is that, when there were allegations –

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS JONES: – when there were allegations that some college officials in this Province accepted thousands of dollars from members of a Qatar family, I think, or a royal family, that this government moved very quickly to report it to the police and to the authorities at that time, and to ask for an investigation.

What I do not understand, Minister, is why the same kind of efforts were not made when you knew, when the Minister of Business at the time knew, when the Premier’s office was informed, why was this issue not reported to the RNC? Why did you, as a minister, take it upon yourself to not report a criminal activity?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, I think it would only be fair to outline some of the timelines that happened from August 30 until November 22.

One thing I do want to say is that I also had concerns of potential child abuse, and I spoke to the Director of Child Protection on August 30, as soon as I had the information.

Mr. Speaker, I met with Ms Lisa O’Neill on September 6. That was shortly before the provincial election. Unfortunately, I had a death in the family and I was off work for a few days leading into the election. Then the election happened and, Mr. Speaker, in all fairness, after the election I took some time off waiting for the new Cabinet to be named, wondering if I was going back into the portfolio, but certainly to have a rest at that time as well.

As of November 1, I was back in the Department of Education. It was one of my priorities; I followed up on it immediately. We got the Request for Proposals for the formal program evaluation.

MR. SPEAKER: I ask the hon. minister to conclude her answer.

MS BURKE: I also followed up on the legal aspect of it. I wanted to assure that the question that went to the Department of Justice clearly reflected the question that I wanted asked was: Should we turn this over to the police? I followed up on that, and it was turned over before the end of November.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

My question today is for the Minister of Health and Community Services.

As the minister knows, children eighteen and under are currently able to access insulin pumps through the Janeway. However, once they are over eighteen, unless they or their families have a medical plan, they are no longer going to be able to afford to keep the pump. This is an enforced change to their lifestyle and one that we heard about at the dinner that the Diabetes Association held for MHAs, and that will have a huge impact on the maintenance of their disease.

I ask the minister: Will this government commit to funding the cost of diabetes supplies devices, including the pumps, to individuals over eighteen - especially those who had the pump up to that time - who cannot afford it, so that the cost is not a barrier or a burden to managing the disease?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have said in this House many times, and yesterday I think was the most recent time, that of all the things this government has done in the last four years - and there have been many, many significant investments, the day is not long enough to list them. One of the things that we have gotten the most comments about has been the policy decision we made last year and the investment of money to provide insulin pumps to children.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, when you hear the testimony of these young children and how it has impacted their lives and how it has changed their lives and over the long haul, we all understand and acknowledge what a tremendous impact it will have on their quality of life. It will actually impact their well-being well into their adult years.

Mr. Speaker, that was an initiative we did last year. It is a program that is into its first year and already we are getting rave reviews. Programs like this are always reviewed and evaluated, and as always, anytime we see an opportunity to improve the quality of lives of Newfoundlanders and Labradorians we will continue to make investments in many of those areas.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Yesterday in debate the minister talked about the young man who spoke to us at the dinner sponsored by the Diabetes Association. He talked about how pleased this young man was and how awesome it was that he had the pump, but what the minister did not tell the House was at the end of that this young man made a plea to the government to make sure that the funding for the pump would not end by the time he became eighteen because if that happened he did not know how he would be able to make the adjustments in this life.

I am asking you, in the name of that young man who asked us that night at the dinner, will you look at making sure that this money continues for these children once they reach the age where right now is a cut-off point?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, obviously this is the day for repeat questions, the second question from two different people we have had repeated. Let me repeat the answer again, Mr. Speaker.

Once again, I said many times in this House and I will say it again today, all programs that we deliver through our four regional health authorities are programs that are under continuous evaluation. On an annual basis, we make investments in many programs to improve upon them, to enhance them, to expand a larger number of people who may have access to the benefits. We did it under the Prescription Drug Program, we did it under our oxygen program this year, we have done it under our medial transportation program, and the list goes on.


I say, Mr. Speaker, the insulin pump program that we introduced last year, that too, will go through an evaluation over time and we will look at opportunities to build on it, to improve it, and if possible, make continued investments to ensure that the children of this Province, and the adults of this Province -

MR. SPEAKER: Order please!

I ask the hon. minister to conclude his answer.

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

- get the kind of supports and services they need to manage diabetes.

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