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Newfoundland and Labrador

Oral Questions
April 6, 2009

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MS JONES:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, Eastern Health has released information that there are forty-three new breast cancer patients who have been identified who need to be retested. Eastern has also confirmed that they expect these numbers will likely increase again before the review is completed.

I ask the Minister of Health today, to tell us when his department first learned about these new patients and what input your office has had in how this information was released.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Members of this House, Mr. Speaker, may recall - and if they do not recall my saying it here, they would recall it as testimony that unfolded before the Cameron Inquiry - that last year my office and me, in particular, as the minister, directed that a more robust search be conducted of the data bases within the system, to ensure that we were able to identify each and every person who may have been impacted between 1997 and 2005 as a result of their ER/PR tests. We commissioned the Centre for Health Information to start that process. They were very much engaged last year with us in identifying the 1,013 that we released back in March of last year.

As 2008 unfolded, we realized that there were still people who were coming forward and saying that they were a part of that group and wondered what their status was.

As a result of that direction we provided last year, the Centre for Health Information have now been aggressively doing a much more robust search of the information systems in the Province to identify any and everybody who may have had and ER/PR test conducted during that period.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. minister to conclude.

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

What we are seeing today, Mr. Speaker, is that exercise unfolding. They have been working on it diligently for a number of months and we are now starting to see the reports coming out of the Centre for Health Information.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

One of the key elements of this process has been ensuring that information is released and communicated properly. What we saw on Friday was a press release from Eastern Health showing up at 4:00 in the afternoon with no media briefings or press conferences, and very little detail attached to it.

I ask the minister again – because it was told this morning that your office had been informed and knew about this since Wednesday. I ask: Why was it not communicated to the public more appropriately, in a more effective fashion than it was, instead of waiting until the end of the day on Friday?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: I will not try to explain the actions of Eastern Health’s communication strategy on Friday. I, too, would concur that late Friday afternoon, to make a release available to the public and not have anyone from Eastern Health available to provide comment, is not something that I would have directed. It is not something that I condone. It is not something that I agree with. Let me be perfectly clear about that particular piece.

Yes, I was aware that they were going to be doing that release. The conversation that my office had with Eastern Health was midday on Thursday, and the understanding and direction was pretty clear: that this information needed to get out immediately. The fact that they were late on Friday afternoon releasing it, I had no control over, Mr. Speaker. That was their call, their decision to release it. I received the notice of the release just moments before it was out. I was out of the Province on government business, meeting with my colleagues in Halifax and with other health regions.

Mr. Speaker, that was their call, but I would agree with the member opposite that getting a release out late Friday afternoon and not having anyone available from the organization to comment on it is not something that I would agree with either.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Furthermore, Mr. Speaker, I think this release was filed under false pretenses. It was filed under a headline that said: Moving forward with Cameron recommendations.

Then, buried in that press release were the information and the evidence regarding the faulty testing of thirty-eight patients in this Province, many who have already been reported as being deceased.


I ask again: Why was the headline misleading? Why was this information not conveyed in a straightforward, up front manner that warranted the kind of disclosure that it should have had?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Again, Mr. Speaker, I want to tell the member opposite and the members of the House, Eastern Health write their own press releases. They release their own communiqués. I was aware of the information that they had. I was aware on Thursday that they were going to be releasing it. My understand was they were going to be releasing it quickly. I then went out of the Province on business, only to find that I got a copy of the release at the same time it was being released to the public.

I say, Mr. Speaker, again, I am not condoning the manner in which it was released; nor did I sign off on the content of that release. The fact that no one was available to provide some context for it, some comment on it, on Friday afternoon was inappropriate.

This morning, I understand, Eastern Health had officials available to provide response to the media and others who had some questions in and around the content of the release, and some detail around it, Mr. Speaker. I understand some of that information got shared, but again I say, Mr. Speaker, in response to the question, I did not sign off on the release. They issue their own communiqués through their own executive management team.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, I suggest the minister take a drive down to Waterford Bridge Road and have a conversation with Eastern Health.

At 11:00 o’clock this morning, in a public disclosure, they are saying that the approach they used in communicating this, the way the information went out, was a joint effort between your department and Eastern Health and others that were impacted. I am hearing a completely different story this afternoon.

Mr. Speaker, 30 per cent of the patients who were affected by this statement were never, ever, contacted, and many of them received a phone call only an hour or so before the information was made public. In our view, Mr. Speaker, nothing has changed and this shows complete contempt for patients.

I ask again: Has anything been learned by those involved, from the inquiry into the Cameron report and the recommendations that were filed?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: The whole issue of lessons learned in this process – and I would like to think, Mr. Speaker, that as a health system, with the significant changes we have already made and some investments we have made – I know our government has learned a lot of lessons from this process. We have taken a lot from the Cameron inquiry itself. We have taken a lot from the involvement we have had as a department, from the last couple of years, in examining what went wrong here. So we, as a government, have taken a lot from this exercise and we have learned from that and our response in this year’s Budget and our response in last year’s Budget and the actions we have taken, I think, reflect that level of understanding of what actually we need to do to strengthen our system.

Now, with respect to the manner in which information gets communicated, as I said a moment ago, I am not trying and I will not attempt to defend or to justify the manner in which this got dealt with on Friday. It was appropriate that we provide a public disclosure. One of the things that we learned from this Cameron inquiry was that, as soon as we start identifying problems, we need to start communicating it with the patients involved and we need to start communicating with the general public, and we need to do it in such a fashion that it does not start to seep out gradually. That is what Eastern Health was doing on Friday -

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

In this culture of secrecy that Eastern Health seems to have fostered around this entire issue – it is the only way I can explain it, when you bury important information in documents that are mistitled and inappropriate – Mr. Speaker, where do those patients go now to get answers? What can they expect to see from these people in terms of response, in terms of details? When can we see the patient navigators being put in the system so at least patients have a comfort level of knowing that they have somewhere to go to access appropriate information?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: There are two parts to the member’s question, Mr. Speaker. The one with respect to the navigators, to assist people through the system, those positions were announced in the Budget and that money will be flowing to the health authorities immediately so that process can start.

With respect to the other piece, I understand now that there is a 1-800 number that Eastern Health has put in place for patients who have some questions to be able to call and get some answers and get to talk to someone. I understand that was initiated late last week, and I understand that over the weekend some people did, in fact, make some calls and did have some discussions with someone within Eastern Health as to how this might affect them and were they impacted by that and be able to get some answers to some questions for them.

With respect to the future, Mr. Speaker, clearly - I want to repeat this because it bears repeating, I believe - I want to make sure that the member opposite understands, and the people of Newfoundland understand, if any reference was made this morning to this being a joint effort, this was not a joint effort. The Department of Health and Community Services received advice of the memo that went out, the release that went out. We received a copy of that, just like members opposite would have gotten a copy. That would have been a draft by Eastern Health themselves. It was not a creation of our department.

What was a creation of our department, I say, Mr. Speaker, was the decision to do this robust search that was commissioned and directed to have been done last year, and we are now starting to see that. My conversation and my department’s conversation with Eastern Health in the recent past was on Thursday of last week when clearly this message was to be delivered to the people of Newfoundland and Labrador in a public way. That was the direction and that was the understanding that I had with Eastern Health last Thursday.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Because the Cameron inquiry is a very complex document - it has over 470 pages of information very vital to the people in the Province - Mr. Speaker, I would like to ask government to consider doing some kind of public information sessions around the Province whereby people are explained these recommendations, they understand them, and they can actually watch the transformation that is taking place in our health care system as a means of restoring that confidence.

I ask the minister today: Are you prepared to put in place a team of people to hold those public forums and questions and answers to that people better understand this document and what the recommendations mean for our health care system?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, by all means, we are keenly interested in ensuring that the lessons learned from this Cameron inquiry are not just lessons we learned as a government, not lessons that the health authorities learned, but that the people of Newfoundland and Labrador take some valuable insights from this piece of work that has been done, because there are some meaningful recommendations in there that will serve not just the health system but the people of the Province well into the future.

I compliment and commend the member for bringing forward a recommendation in her question, and we would be only too glad to put in place a mechanism that ensures that the recommendations in that report, in the Cameron inquiry, are well known and well understood by the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. That is learning process, Mr. Speaker, so thank you very much for your suggestion.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the House of Assembly passed legislation to expropriate provincial assets of AbitibiBowater and hand the assets and the employees, to a certain extent, over to Nalcor.

I ask the Premier today, if he can confirm for me that, once an operation becomes void under contract law, that contract with workers also becomes void.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and the Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I am not sure I understand the Leader of the Opposition’s question. Maybe she would like to rephrase it for my benefit.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Minister, government passed laws to expropriate assets of AbitibiBowater, one of them being the energy division, and they transferred it to Nalcor Energy. My question was: Under contract law, once that became void, does it also mean the benefits that would have been paid out to those workers would have become void as well?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and the Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am not sure if I understand the Leader of the Opposition when she talks about the contract becoming void.

Certainly, when the assets of Abitibi were expropriated, the assets became owned by the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador. Abitibi would continue to exist as a corporate entity, would continue to own its other assets, and it would still be obligated to carry out any contracts it entered into.

Maybe, if the hon. member would be a little more specific, I will do my best to answer your question.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Once the assets were expropriated, and the employees were transferred over to Nalcor for operations, the Premier was very clear. He made a statement, he said: Government is going to make sure that all the workers will be properly compensated in one way or another.

I have to ask: In the negotiations with Abitibi, around expropriation, was the issue of severance payments for transferred workers on the table, and can government commit to ensure that the appropriate compensation will be paid out to all those qualifying workers?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, there are a number of situations that the task force has identified and is working through, relative to the expropriation of the assets of AbitibiBowater.

The transitioning of employees who may be going with Nalcor, and other employees who are not a part of that transition: those issues are currently being investigated, options are being looked at, and at an appropriate time there will be decisions made relative to the options that are available to government.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There were over twenty-two employees whose jobs were expropriated along with the facilities of the power generation plant. Mr. Speaker, these workers are being told today that, you will not be eligible to receive severance packages from Abitibi. All except for three of those workers are being told today that, you will not get the holiday pay that is due to you.

I ask the minister: What assurances were negotiated in the transfer of those assets to ensure that these workers would get the severance and the holiday pay that was due to them from the company that they had worked for, for the last number of years?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that some twenty-three or twenty-four employees have been transitioned to the company Nalcor. When the hon. member says that the employees have been told, I am not sure who she is referencing has told them that. It is my understanding that Abitibi has indicated to the employees certain things that they now feel they have no responsibility for.

As I indicated in a previous answer, as the Chair of the Task Force, we have work underway looking at the obligations that Abitibi has to its workers. The fact that those workers are now employed by some other entity does not necessarily relieve Abitibi of its obligations.

That is being looked into, and as I indicated, as soon as we have information further to that we will report back on it.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There are seventeen workers who are directly employed today by Nalcor. They are being told by Abitibi that, it is not our responsibility to pay you out those severances and holiday pay that was due to them.

Mr. Speaker, again my question comes back to the government. When the asset was expropriated, when the jobs were expropriated and transferred to Nalcor, where these employees ever informed that, you may not now get your severance packages or the holiday pay that is due to you by this company?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Again I say, Mr. Speaker, the determination that Abitibi has made is not necessarily one that is correct. We have undertaken to do some work on this. We understand the benefits that the employees were to receive. It is our position, at this time, that the decision by Abitibi may be premature. As I indicated, we are looking into that matter and when we have the appropriate due diligence done on it we will be able to report back with the options that are available.

Thank you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There are five of these employees who were told by government that they would be transferred, with the diesel generation operations, to work for Nalcor who never got a position.

I would like to ask the minister today: What assurances or security are going to be provided to these five workers who right now are being told by Abitibi, we do not owe you any severance, we do not owe you any holiday pay, and they are being told by Nalcor, we do not have a job for you?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, as a part of the transition process, there were contractual arrangements under the agreements that the unions had, the various locals had. My understanding is, right now there are, if I remember correctly, three locals that are involved, three various union groups. There were bumping rights and succession rights and those kinds of things that employees could utilize, and some of those employees did, in fact, utilize that. Some people did exercise their bumping options. Some people, because of that, who were in certain positions, were bumped out of positions as the contracts allowed them to do.

Again, it is my understanding, Mr. Speaker, that this is legal according to the contractual arrangements that were signed off by the unions and the company, and Abitibi, as far as we are concerned, should still live up to any obligations it has to any employees it has who are displaced.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There continues to be a number of problems associated with school bus safety in our Province. There is no policy or procedure manual which the Highway Enforcement Officers can consult during the carrying-out of their inspections, and the forms which are presently being used to do inspections are not consistently and fully completed. I know this year in the Budget the government announced $300,000 to enhance school bus safety regulations.

I ask the minister: How is this money going to be used to improve school bus inspections?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Government Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, to answer the hon. member’s question, first off I would like to say that school bus safety is paramount to this government and, I suppose, in any government because we are talking about the safety of our children in regards to being transported from their homes to the schools. In this process, we have had a blueprint commitment in regards to looking at the issues, and certainly we have engaged with the Department of Education. We have identified a number of areas that we can have a look at. We costed it at about $300,000, which was reflected in this year’s Budget.

We will engage the stakeholders in regards to consultations and we will also review our forms policy and review those forms, make sure that they are consistent and make sure that we are consistently inspecting and we are actually submitting to the officials in my department the right information.

That is a process that we will undertake. It is under review and we will be engaged to partner with the Department of Education in regard to this because it is very important to the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, we know that school bus inspections in 2007-2008, eighty-six of the 864 school buses, or 10 per cent, were identified with brake defects. While this is alarming, it was also noted that while this is happening the brakes are not being properly recalibrated, and without this the meters cannot accurately measure the performance of the brakes. This was noted in the Auditor General’s report in 2004 and again in January 2009.

I ask the minister: How does government expect to improve school bus safety without taking the necessary steps to ensure accurate testing?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Government Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: Mr. Speaker, in regard to the inspecting of school buses, school buses in this Province are the most inspected vehicle on the road today in this Province. We inspect regularly. As a matter of fact, I think, between it all, we inspect once ourselves and twice by the inspection stations themselves.

In regard to the issue at hand, I am and have followed it keenly in regard to my interest level to school bus safety in the Province, the system is actually working. Yes, we do have school buses over a certain age. We have brought down the overall age of a bus in Newfoundland and Labrador, since we took government, from fourteen to twelve. The wear and tear on any given bus, you might have a brake problem today, have it fixed, and maybe you might have another one tomorrow. What you have to look at in regard to the reporting system is if it is the same bus or if it is another bus.

Certainly, we have a no tolerance at play here in regard to when we inspect the bus and we identify that a bus may need some work on their brakes –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker

It has come to our attention, I say to the minister, that back in December there was a report completed on a bus in our Province where it was stated either that the inspection showed that the brakes were in good working order or new brakes had been installed. This was in December of 2008. Yet, when this incident happened in January 2009, to my understanding, the cause of the accident had to do with the brakes.

I ask the minister: What is he prepared to do to ensure that accurate testing is done and the proper reporting is taking place?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Government Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. O'BRIEN: I would not be able to comment in regard to the specific situation that the hon. member has described, but I certainly will come back to this House with a report on that, and make sure that everything was in order. We endeavour to inspect school buses, and all schools buses, on a regular basis. Plus, as I said in my previous answer, we have a no tolerance approach to school bus safety, and the inspection regime that we have in place. If we find an issue in regard to a defect related to brakes and some other items, too, that we consider to be of high risk to the safety of the children in this Province, we pull the bus at that particular time.

We do not give them three months to get it done. We tell them that they have to do it now, regardless if we, as a mechanic, would say that the item in question could go on for another three months, but get it done within a three month period, that you might have a mechanic say in regard to your own vehicle.

We have a no tolerance approach, and we pull –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

My question is for the Minister of Health and Community Services.

During the Cameron inquiry the whole Province witnessed evidence of poor communication skills and knowledge within Eastern Health, and in her report Madam Justice Cameron referenced the need for due diligence by the minister when listening to information that comes from Eastern Health.

I ask the minister: Did it occur to him, or to his officials, to ask how and when the disclosure of the information about new ER/PR testing results was going to be made?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: As I said, Mr. Speaker, in my earlier comment in response to the Leader of the Opposition, officials in my office had a conversation, as well as myself, with Eastern Health people on Thursday. My understanding was that the very next day – which would have been Friday – that information would have been made public.

I was not aware of the time of the day that it was going to be made, and the manner in which it was going to be released – which we heard addressed in this House a few moments ago, that it was quite late on Friday afternoon and, in fact, there was no comment associated with that, or to be accompanying that release.

Yes, I was aware on Thursday, and my understanding was that on Friday that information was going to be released to the public.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I appreciate what the minister says, but obviously we are dealing with an agency, an important agency in this Province, one of our regional health authorities, Eastern Health, which is showing us that they do not have the skills and the knowledge to get involved in patient disclosure and public communications.

I ask the minister: What is he going to do about ensuring that training begins immediately to show these people how to do their work? Because they did not get the message of the Cameron report.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: I can advise the member opposite, and the House, that I have had a recent conversation over the weekend with the Chair of Eastern Health Authority with respect to how we would move forward with having a better understanding of public disclosure, how we need to focus on communication with the public and patients in the future. Upon her return to the Province we will be getting together personally to have that discussion with our officials and our department, together with officials within Eastern Health.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.


I think we have here a case of old wine and new wineskins. This was my fear when the Cameron report came out, that people are so used to behaving in a certain way that they are not going to change.

I am asking the minister: Will he be recommending that there be distinct training for all people who have to be involved in public disclosure, with patient disclosure and public communications? They need more training.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: Mr. Speaker, I have to say, I am in full agreement with the Member for Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi and the Leader of the Opposition. This is disgraceful. It should never have happened, to do a release on a Friday afternoon under an improper heading.

It is mentioned in the Cameron report, and I was just looking at it, where they were basically saying they were telling the truth but not the whole truth. That is happening again, and it is not satisfactory and it is not good enough, I can tell you right now. So, yes, things are going to happen over there. We are going to go back to them and give them some direction with regard to communication.

As well, Cameron has also indicated that there was a failure of the management system over there. This has now happened again. That is not satisfactory. Fortunately, as a result of the protocols that are put in place by the Department of Health, and us asking the right questions, and continuing to press them and pursuer them further, more information has come out.

This matter was brought, by the minister, to Cabinet on Thursday. Our media instructions at Cabinet were: Let’s get this out, and get it out right away.

On that basis, the minister made the direction to Eastern Health and what did they do? They come out on a Friday afternoon with no support behind it. They issue a press release that has a misleading heading on it, and that is just not good enough.

I agree with both of you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: I need to say, Mr. Speaker, I am absolutely delighted to hear the Premier be so forthright and make this statement, because we have to show - everybody has to show - the people of this Province that they can trust what is coming out.

We are told by Eastern Health there is more information coming, that this is not the end, so we need an assurance from the minister that the next time they will get it right for the sake of the people in this Province.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The member opposite is right, and as I said earlier, this was a piece of work that we commissioned last year to dig more aggressively, to make sure we identified everybody. Now that the information has now been compiled by the Centre for Health Information, or getting to a point where they are now able to provide some reports. As of this morning we have asked Robert Thompson, who you might recall chaired the taskforce on adverse health events, who was guiding this process last year, if he would be available to assist us with now guiding the new information coming out and to be able assemble that and provide a very frank and open discussion and communication as we now get this new information, as it comes from the Centre for Health Information. We will collate that and Robert will, and his group, pull that information together again and we will have some semblance of order as to how we communicate that to the public.

MR. SPEAKER: The time allotted for questions and answers has expired.

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