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Oral Questions
April 8, 2009

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MS JONES:

Mr. Speaker, on March 30 we asked the Minister of Health about surgery cancellations at Eastern Health due to the lack of anesthesiologists. At the time he assured the public that things were under control, and that Eastern Health was successfully recruiting two other individuals, or two other positions.

We have since learned that the senior person is going on leave, the academic chair has resigned, and another is leaving the Province in June. Surgeons are concerned about what the impact will be on cancellations of surgeries.

I ask the minister if he is aware of this situation that is developing at Eastern Health and if he can tell us what the impact will be on those surgeries that are already scheduled?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, just to correct the member opposite, once again she takes words and stretches them. I will not say betrays the truth but stretches the commentary.

I did not indicate everything was under control, Mr. Speaker. What I had indicated and advised this House and updated this House was that there was progress being made. There was some optimism that they were going to be successful in recruiting other anaesthetists. That is my comment, Mr. Speaker, that I had made earlier.

With respect to the issue at hand and the question she has now posed, are we working on a solution to try to deal with potential cancelled surgeries for the month of April? The answer is yes, Mr. Speaker. Officials in my department have been working with and talking to Eastern Health about what it is they are doing, how they are going to approach this. They are trying to work through how they are going to reschedule some surgeries in the month of April, but I say, Mr. Speaker, as well, to repeat what I had said earlier, they are optimistic that they will have some success in recruiting other anaesthetists to replace those that are leaving. So that is an ongoing process –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. minister to conclude his response.

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

So the recruitment process for physicians is an ongoing exercise and again, Eastern Health has expressed some optimism they will be successful.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

We already know that the shortage of nurses has contributed to cancelled surgeries. We know that the shortage of anaesthesiologists has also contributed to the problem. We also know that there are vacancies.

Again, I ask the minister: Can you tell me when these positions will be filled, what success Eastern Health has had in their recruitment efforts and when can we see these people in place?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: I am going to try to repeat what I have said earlier this week in Question Period and as I have just commented on a second ago. Eastern Health has indicated that they have had some success with at least two anaesthetists in particular, who they are optimistic they will be able to conclude a successful discussion with them and when that happens, and they are anticipating that might happen in the near future, they will be able to identify an effective date, the date that those individuals will be arriving in those positions. At that time, I will be only too glad to advise the House of those dates.

With respect to their ongoing efforts, as I said a second ago as well, Mr. Speaker, recruitment is an ongoing process. In as much as they have identified a couple of people who have expressed some keen interest and they are working through a process with, they are continuing with other efforts to identify other anaesthetists who would be interested in coming to work with Eastern Health.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The minister said this week, or indicated that he would be giving direction to Eastern Health on a go-forward basis.

I ask the minister: Will he commit today to an external review of the clinical Department of Anaesthesiology to correct the problems that exist with this recruitment effort that they are having?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: If it is necessary to bring external resources to bear, then as a government our past practice has been, and our future practice will be to bring the resources to bear. If it is external resources to assist with the recruitment process, we are prepared to do that. We have done it in the past; we will do it in the future.

Our objective, Mr. Speaker, is to ensure that each of our health authorities have an ample supply of very capable, confident individuals to ensure that we are able to provide quality, safe care to the people of Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, we are approaching our peak diving season for this year in the Province, and we live on an Island where we are all too familiar with the accidents that are involved in our fishing, oil industry and with recreational activities around the water. In an event of an accident many times an injured party is placed into a hyperbaric chamber to prevent permanent injury or death.

I ask the minister if he can give us an update on the status of our only hyperbaric chamber in the Province, and if it is ready to meet our needs in the event of an emergency?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: It is not a normal practice, as a minister, that I get an update on the status of various pieces of equipment in the system. If the member opposite has a curiosity or an interest about the functioning of that equipment, I will only be too glad to have my officials get an update for her and provide some information to her and the House about how that equipment may be working, the level of service it has provided, and how it actually functions on a day-to-day basis.

Clearly, that is information that I would have to get from the authorities. That is not something necessarily my office, personally, would have on any given day.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, we have been informed that it is technically ready at the moment, but we also know that the only reason it is not operational is because of staffing issues.

I ask the minister today - this is the only hyperbaric unit in the Province, it is very important in the case of an emergency. I ask him if he will undertake to ensure that the staffing complements are met and that this chamber can be available and operational if required?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, I thought I had answered that question the first time out. I indicated that I would get some information with respect to the equipment that we have and whether it is operational. I made that commitment in my earlier response but if she wants to waste another question, by all means, ask it again.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, it is just another example where the Minister of Health has no idea of what is going on.

They have been over six months trying to recruit a couple of physicians in order to ensure that this unit is operational. We have just come from one of the hugest disasters in our history in this Province and to not even know if the one chamber that could have been available, that may have been needed to save people’s lives in this Province, and you do not know if they have been able to recruit the staff to operate it in the last six months.

I ask you, minister, to give us an update as soon as possible in the public as to what the status is.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

Are there any further questions?

The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I hope I am ready, because I had a whole series of questions for the Premier with regard to offshore safety and since coming into the House I have found out that there has been an answer to some of my questions from C-NLOPB. So I am going to ask the questions based on what I have just learned.

First of all, we have a release from C-NLOPB saying that they are going to be putting in place a mandatory inquiry into the crash of the Cougar helicopter that went down on March 12.

I ask the Premier: Was the government aware of the C-NLOPB’s intentions to announce the inquiry, and has the government had any dealings with C-NLOPB with regard to the inquiry?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, in response to the question from the Leader of the NDP, the Department of Natural Resources was contacted by the C-NLOPB regarding the inquiry being launched. We were made aware of that yesterday.

In terms of any detailed discussions around it, at this point there have not been any. The C-NLOPB is still in the process of determining its mandate, determining the kinds of things it will be looking at, the length of the inquiry and those kinds of things. So, it is just an announcement that there will be an inquiry. That is something that under the Atlantic Accord legislation must happen and once they got past the stage of the initial impacts regarding the Cougar helicopter crash, they now are looking at the legislative kinds of things that must be done.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would like to get further information, then, with regard to the role of government as the work of CNLOPB continues, because I understand they will be working on a definition of the mandate, the Terms of Reference, the selection of a commissioner for the inquiry, and timeline for inquiry completion.

Will government be directly involved in having input into all of that?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Mr. Speaker, I can advise that, as I indicated earlier, the Atlantic Accord legislation requires that if there are any serious accidents that there be an inquiry into those accidents to make sure that safety in the offshore is not compromised, as other activities occur in the offshore.

There have been discussions with federal officials who are supportive of the work that will be undertaken by the CNLOPB. We certainly, as a government, will provide whatever support we can to it.

I have to be honest and say, in terms of legislatively, I am not sure exactly how much involvement government will have on a direct basis. It is my understanding today that it will be the CNLOPB that will lead the inquiry and we will certainly provide whatever support we can, as a government, to that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Because of the recent news reports concerning the questionable safety of Sikorsky Helicopters - and these news reports are increasing every day - there is mounting concern in the public and the industry around providing safe transportation for our offshore workers. It would seem to me that, because of the information that is coming out, more discussion has to go on around alternative means; not means of getting out there, but other helicopters being looked at.

Is government, at this moment, having those kinds of discussions themselves?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the Transportation Safety Board under federal regulation is conducting an inquiry into the accident that we had happen with Cougar Flight 491. They are certainly well aware of the situation that the hon. member has mentioned, and the news reports relating to that.

The TSB inquiry and investigation will cover that mandate. It is my understanding that the mandate of the CNLOPB inquiry will not overlap with that, in that there will be a different set of circumstances and different Terms of Reference that will be looked at. The intention is not to overlap but to allow the TSB to do its investigation. There are other aspects of that accident that occurred that need to be investigated and will be done by the CNLOPB.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is obvious that the Minister of Health does not know the answers to the questions I posed in the House, so I will move on to another topic.

Mr. Speaker, government recently announced their infrastructure stimulus package to create economic opportunities in the Province. While local companies are expecting to benefit from these packages, they recently learned that a company from Quebec, Pomerleau, was the lowest bidder again on another contract, the school in L’Anse-au-Loup; the same company that this government gave a $57 million contract to, for the long-term care facility in Corner Brook.

I ask the Premier today: Will these contracts that were designed to stimulate our local economy in Newfoundland and Labrador be awarded to Quebec-based companies?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: Mr. Speaker, we have over $800 million out there to stimulate the economy. The economy is robust. It is doing very, very well. There are lots of contracts out there, there is lots of work out there, but we are not going to throw money away. If a contract comes in and someone is the low bidder and they bid $10 million, and someone else comes in and bids $30 million, then we are going to the low bidder because that saves $20 million for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador.

Now, if that happens to be a Quebec company, it is a Quebec company, but they employ Newfoundlanders and Labradorians. It is Newfoundlanders and Labradorians who get the work. It is a competitive process. There are internal trade provisions. There is free trade among provinces right across this country. Our contractors can work in Alberta, our contractors can work in Quebec, our contractors can work in Ontario and the Maritime Provinces, and other contractors and construction companies can work in Newfoundland and Labrador.

We are not going to fritter money away just to give it away to the highest bidder, just because you do not want someone from Quebec doing the work.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Premier might want to check and see how many Newfoundland companies are bidding and getting jobs in Quebec. Because, I can tell you, there are a lot of cross-border provinces in this country that do not get contracts in Quebec, unlike what we are giving to Quebec companies.

Mr. Speaker, I understand from the Premier today that these companies are sole-sourcing their work in Newfoundland and Labrador. I ask: Can he tell me if this company has subcontracted work to Quebec-based companies while they have been doing the long-term care facility in Corner Brook?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the exact details on who was contracted to do what from a subcontracting perspective on the long-term care facility, I cannot provide all the details on that. I will undertake to get the information and report back to the House in a timely fashion, and maybe immediately after Question Period is over.

Mr. Speaker, as the Premier said, there is a free and open competitive process for contracting here in Newfoundland and Labrador, as it is across the country, and if there is a problem, Mr. Speaker, there is a process under the Committee of Internal Trade, the Agreement on Internal Trade, where, if a company in Newfoundland and Labrador, or any part of this country, think that they are being ill done by, by government procurement, they can file a complaint and it can be dealt with by the Committee on Internal Trade.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, the four other companies that bid this contract, you know they do not have the option to go and seek $14 million contracts in Quebec, like Quebec companies can do in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Mr. Speaker, this government excluded the construction of two new ferries from the Agreement on Internal Trade when you tendered for those ferries, saying they had to be done in Newfoundland and Labrador. Why can’t you use that standard at a time of an economic crisis to do the same for the other construction trades industry in our Province?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the Agreement on Internal Trade and the Atlantic Procurement Agreement allow for governments, for regional economic development purposes - that is very clear, regional economic development purposes - to file an exemption under the Public Tender Act and inform, through the Agreement on Internal Trade, the rest of the country of our intentions. That is why we did it with the ferries on the South Coast, in Marystown, or here in Newfoundland and Labrador, because it would stimulate our shipyards.


Mr. Speaker, we just tendered four schools. Three of them were won by Marco Construction. Marco Construction does work in Nova Scotia – I don’t know about P.E.I. - in Alberta, and they do work across this….

When this came up before, on the long-term care facility, there were people in the construction association who said that they wanted restrictions, and there were people in the construction association who said: I want a competitive process. I want the ability to compete across this country and here in Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

As you know, the mining industry continues to struggle under the global economic recession and there is some word coming out of Labrador West this week that their shutdown schedule for this summer could be much longer at IOC mines than originally predicted.

I ask the minister: Have they been notified by IOC of these potential plans, and what the exact time frames for this shutdown could mean for the people in that area?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

In response to the Leader of the Opposition’s question, government has been notified by the company. There is a requirement under the Labour Standards that they notify us if they are going to have an extended shutdown. They have indicated that to us. It is, as I understand it, preliminary in nature. They are still feeling out the markets for their product, and whether or not they will have markets available to be able to have the production levels that they anticipated; but, as is required by Labour Standards, they did file notice with government indicating that they may extend the shutdown that was announced earlier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, for well over a year now this government have been telling the people in Labrador West that they are going to stimulate the economy there, they are going to do work on the highway, they are going to do work on the hospital.

I ask you today, Minister: In light of what is happening in that area, the fact that we are coming up on the construction season, when are the tenders going to be called for the highway work and also for the hospital?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Mr. Speaker, somewhere around April 18 the tender will be called for the roadwork. On April 18 the tender will be called for the trade school; and, subject to discussions next week, Mr. Speaker, we will be in a better position, once we know the scope of programming and what have you at the hospital, we will be able to determine whether or not we can proceed with the tender call for cement and services for the hospital later this year.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My questions are for the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

Minister, I inquired yesterday about the broadband contract, and the fact that it was delayed since the time that the RFPs were called, by some twelve months or so. The minister did respond to that question. I am wondering, in follow-up to that, Minister, are you in a position to tell us at least how many companies were involved in the bid process and if the delay, which has been well over a year now, if that in fact has increased the cost that was originally anticipated?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we had three responses to the Requests for Proposals that came in. They did involve some consortia of companies. The exact number I would not want to guess at, but I can certainly provide that information if the hon. member wishes it. There were three responses that came in.

In terms of indications that there was a delay, there is not actually a delay, Mr. Speaker. As I indicated in a previous response to one of the questions from the Opposition, this is a fairly extensive piece of work. It is a very detailed piece of work, a very technical piece of work, and a lot of time and effort had to go into looking at, investigating and making sure we understood the response to the Requests for Proposals. So it is not so much a delay as just making sure that we do the appropriate analysis.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

When this process originally started some four years ago, the government’s position was that we are not going to go with any public tendering process at that time because we need to get it done in a timely fashion because it is so important to have this broadband. Now the government committed at that time that there was going to be over 200 communities connected, virtually every public facility, including our health care facilities and so on, because we needed it and we needed it urgently at that time, and we still do not have it. We could certainly use it now during this economic downturn.

Is the minister prepared, rather than saying we are just going to wait? What are the deadlines? When are we going to see this happen, or is this going to go on for another year?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Mr. Speaker, in terms of responding to the questions –

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. SKINNER: I will indicate to the hon. member, Mr. Speaker, that we did, during the request for proposals that we put out, indicate to all of the companies when we put out the request for proposals, that this would take a significant amount of time. I actually think we told them it would take about a year to evaluate the proposals. So that information was out there.

We are in contact with the industry people, the companies that are bidding, the industry associations. They are quite understanding of the fact that it takes government this amount of time to do this. The complexity of the work that we are doing is not going to be compromised by trying to get it done. It is going to be done when we have all of the appropriate information, when we have all of the appropriate decisions made that we need to make. The industry is understanding of this, the industry is supportive of this, and we are making progress, Mr. Speaker, but it will be done when we are ready to do it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I say to the minister, by the time he gets around to getting it done the technology will be obsolete and we will talking about something else other than broadband.

Mr. Speaker, my next question is for the Minister of Justice. Minister, last year the former minister, in fact, had some meetings with the federal Minister of Public Safety with regards to the potential construction of a penitentiary here. We all know, of course, the deplorable condition that Her Majesty’s Penitentiary is currently in. Of course, the ABC campaign derailed that.

Given the breakdown in the relationship between this Province and our federal counterparts, is the Province giving any consideration to possibly doing a penitentiary ourselves as a go-it-alone project?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and the Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

At the present time the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador is continuing to have discussions with officials of the Government of Canada. There were meetings as recently as last week, and we are continuing to explore the idea of a joint-costed facility between the federal government and the provincial government, and we think that is in the best interests of both the people of Newfoundland and Labrador and the people of Canada.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, the former minister had a review done of the operations of adult corrections throughout the whole Province last fall and that report, subsequently, was delivered and made public, or most of it was all made public, containing some seventy recommendations.

I ask the minister, we know that there are recommendations in that report that cannot possibly be physically done and implemented at Her Majesty’s Penitentiary, due to the age and the layout of the facility: How does the minister and government intend to address this problem?

We have a report that says these things need to be done, but we cannot physically do it.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and the Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

We do have the report of the consultants, Decades of Darkness: Moving Towards the Light. There were seventy-seven recommendations, and this government has responded. This is the first year since we had the report. So our opening move is there is an investment of $6 million in this year’s Budget, plus an additional $1 million was spent during the last fiscal year, from the time we got the report to the end of the year.

This will continue. We will treat it the same way we did with the police when we had the benefits of the recommendations of the Lamer Report. We will continue to address the issue each year, and at the end of the day we will have a system of corrections in this Province, hopefully that will be second to none across the country.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, later today we will be debating a motion dealing with the Province’s seal hunt and the proposed EU ban. This ban on imported seal products brings a serious threat to 6,000 sealers and their families who depend on this industry. Last week, the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture travelled to Ottawa to meet with EU officials.

I ask the minister: Did you achieve any results from these meetings and garner any additional support in an attempt to stay the proposed EU ban?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

In response to the question from the member opposite, certainly, any time that you speak with European politicians, in this case, ambassadors, you do garner intelligence.

What I did find out was that ban appears to be going full-fledged ahead in the Parliament. However, in meeting with some of these ambassadors, we do have allies, we do have opportunities, and of course, our Premier certainly put a letter out to all ambassadors clearly stating our position and indicating that we are not satisfied just with the ban or the exemptions. We want to have our seal harvest continue without any restrictions, because it is humane, it is viable, it is sustainable, and we as a jurisdiction are going to pull out all the stops to make sure that they fully understand the consequences of what they do.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, an issue of such importance requires a solid plan to deal with any potential EU decision, and requires cooperation and dialogue between the federal and provincial governments.

I ask the minister: During your visit to Ottawa, did you meet with the Minister of Fisheries to discuss any strategy in dealing with this important issue?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: On the point of meeting with the minister, I certainly made the minister aware that I was in Ottawa. I did make a request, but obviously she did not see fit to meet with me at that particular time.

As the regards to the federal government and cooperation with the federal government, we have been two years, I say, Mr. Speaker, asking this federal government to take trade action so that we have something that we can stand behind.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: I tell you: finally they have listened to us and are moving forward.

We, as a jurisdiction, as I pointed out, will do anything we can to ensure that this hunt is not only continued but continued in a way that can give us the commercial return that we need.

Thank you, very much.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, seeing as the Minister of Fisheries would not meet, I am going to ask him another question.

Mr. Speaker, CBC Radio reported on Friday that if a ban on seal products is instituted the Government of Canada will launch a world trade organization action.

I ask the minister: Have you been in contact with the International Trade Minister, Stockwell Day, to lend our support to any international challenges to reverse this potential ban?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, as I pointed out to the hon. member on the other side, we have left no stone unturned in trying to make sure that the federal government and our European politicians understand the position that we hold. My predecessors and ministers have been in contact with not only the DFO minister but also Stockwell Day. We have continually asked him to move forward in the position, to take the, I guess, WTO action. It was only last Friday that they indicated that they will.

We have asked them constantly for their strategy and have not been given the courtesy of them telling us what their direction is. As a result of it, I say, Mr. Speaker, we have to, as a jurisdiction, step up to the plate. We have stepped up to the plate and we will continue to be at the plate until we finally hit that homerun. Mr. Speaker, we will again leave nothing unturned to make sure that we get that result.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The time allotted for Oral Questions has expired.

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