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Oral Questions
April 28, 2009

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MS JONES:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It was recently revealed on the Fisheries Broadcast that the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture had rejected a decision of the Fish Processing Licensing Board for a shrimp licence for the Beothuk Fisheries Plant in Valleyfield.

The former chair of the board, Mr. Richard Cashin, said that he felt this was the worst decision that he had ever witnessed by the Department of Fisheries and certainly was not made in the best interests of the industry.

So I ask the minister to outline for us today the reason why he rejected the recommendations of the board.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, I think it is common knowledge throughout the industry, and certainly this government has taken a position that the capacity within the shrimp industry is to a point right now where the individual thresholds of the plants are not being met, and until those thresholds are met, we as a government cannot see issuing any new licences at this particular time. It was on that basis that my decision was made.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There were also some interesting allegations made by the minister’s colleague, who happens to be the MHA for Bonavista North, in which he stated that the minister was actually wrong in his decision to reject the licence and it had nothing to do with overcapacity. He went on to state, Mr. Speaker, that the minister had been fooled by the lobbying of other processors.

I ask you today, minister: Was your decision impending upon the lobby efforts of big fish businesses in this Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: I guess, Mr. Speaker, the simple answer to that is absolutely no.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The MHA for Bonavista North also stated that the decision to reject the licence was a bad one and that he indeed did have input on the issue.

I ask the minister: Did your colleague provide you with any facts, and if so, why did you reject the advice and the information that he was giving you, along with the information and the recommendations of the licensing board under which your government established?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, I say on behalf of this government that we do listen. We listen to everyone, I guess, but there comes a point where we have to stand by our principles as a government, and the principle I have already outlined to you. We are not deviating from that. It is in the best interests of the industry.

We take advice, but I, as a minister, have to basically make the decision. The decision was made, it is the right decision, and I will live by that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Cashin also stated that he has lost confidence in the process of awarding licences through the Fish Licensing Board, and he remarked that government’s experiment in independence has come to an end in that regard.

I ask the minister: If you are going to make the final decisions around fish licensing in this Province, why do we even have a board?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, that board was set up for a very good reason. It was to make sure that it was open, that is was transparent, that all parties were aware of what was going on, and 99 per cent of the decisions, obviously, were certainly accepted.

This particular decision that was put before me was not acceptable, for the reasons that I have pointed out to you. Again, I stand by the decision that I made. It was the right decision, the decision that is in the best interests of this industry, and that is where we stand right now.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

So the board is independent as long as they toe the government line, as long as the decision-making is not contrary to what the government believes.

Mr. Speaker, Richard Cashin is well known for his knowledge around the fishing industry, and is a real visionary for the future of the industry. I am sure that is the reason why government appointed him to that position in the first place.

I ask the minister today: Why was Mr. Cashin not reappointed to serve on this board? Was it because of this issue around licensing, and can you tell me who will be appointed as the next chair of the board?

AN HON. MEMBER: (Inaudible).

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, Mr. Cashin served out his term. His term was up in March, and it was the decision of the government to move forward with another chair. The naming of that chair is pending, and I guess it would be inappropriate for me to name any names until that is done.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Just like Memorial University, Mr. Speaker, if we don’t like the decisions you make we will get rid of you. We will clean house. We will bring in a new slate.

Mr. Speaker, yesterday we asked the Minister of Finance why government would not go to binding arbitration with nurses on the extended earnings loss benefits and the market adjustment clauses in order to avoid a strike in this Province and protect the healthcare and the welfare of the people who depend upon the service.

I did not get an answer from the minister yesterday, and today I pose my question to the Premier: To ensure that there is stability in our system, and to avoid a strike, will government commit to binding arbitration on the two issues that are outstanding with the nurses?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: Absolutely not.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we realize that government has made good progress in these negotiations, and we acknowledge that. We also acknowledge the fact that there are no monetary issues left on the table. As per the minister’s comments yesterday, these two issues are policy related and they are at no cost to the government.

I ask again: In light of that fact, why would government not go to binding arbitration, knowing that there isn’t any cost, and avoid a strike so that people in this Province do not have to go through a system where operating rooms will be closed, where hospital beds will be closed, and where they will not get the necessary treatment they require? Why not take it that extra step and go to the arbitration process?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: Mr. Speaker, we went through a lengthy process with nurses. We gave them every accommodation. We started early, well over a year ago, nearly a year-and-a-half ago now. We asked to meet during the summer; they did not want to meet. We then came back and we addressed the pay issues. They wanted an increase in pay; we addressed that significantly with the template. They wanted recruitment addressed, and we addressed that. They wanted retention addressed, and we addressed that. They wanted standby addressed, and we addressed that. They wanted shift differential addressed, and we addressed that. We have now placed them either one or two in Eastern Canada, east of Ontario. That includes Quebec and all the Maritime Provinces. We have stepped up. We have offered them an extremely generous package, and it is a package.

If they wanted to take away their template, or take away parts of their template, or they want to take away all of the extra benefits that they have given them, then perhaps we can start to look at another package, but that package is complete. It is the very, very, very best offer that we can make. We cannot just keep stepping up every time they want to add on to the equation. It is not going to happen.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, last night we received a letter from the alliance of provincial groups who serve youth in the Province when it comes to addiction services. These organizations, including the Recovering Addicts Fellowship Team, the Community Youth Network, Turnings and Choices for Youth, have come together to form an alliance and are expressing concerns over the recent announcement to place the youth residential treatment facility in Grand Falls, Windsor. They have posed a number of questions to government, Mr. Speaker, and we are certainly prepared to pose these questions in the House of Assembly.

Mr. Speaker, they stated that those youth who are affected, the majority of them, are in the Eastern Region of the Province. My question to the minister is: What are the clinical advantages to placing this facility in Central Newfoundland?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: What I find interesting in the House, Mr. Speaker, is how questions have changed over the years. For many years in this House members opposite have raised questions around, what are we doing for rural Newfoundland? Now, all of a sudden, we are getting questions in the House lobbying for St. John’s, Mr. Speaker. They want all services centralized in St. John’s.

Mr. Speaker, I answered questions in this House a couple of weeks ago around this very same point. One of the critical considerations for us as a government was to ensure that we are able to provide quality programming with capable, competent people, and we are very confident – we are very confident indeed - that Central Newfoundland, and in particular Grand Falls-Windsor, is a community in a region of the Province that can attract the kinds of people that we need. We are very confident that we are going to be able to provide the kind of programming that will respond to the challenging needs of those individuals who need that kind of addiction services.

So we stand by the decision to locate this new facility and this new program in Grand Falls-Windsor because we believe it will be successful and the people of all of Newfoundland and Labrador will be well served by that new program.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I do not think the government should be offended that there are four groups in this Province, who represent youth and youth treatment, who would question your decision, Mr. Speaker. In fact, they have every right to question it.

These individuals are telling us that they have spoken to many groups who work in addiction services right across the Province, and that those individuals feel that the location of the facility is unacceptable, that it is unsuitable, and that it was chosen merely for political reasons.

I ask the minister today: Who did your government consult prior to making the decision to place this important residential treatment facility in the Central Region of the Province?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Again I am somewhat bewildered by the nature of the questions and the persistence, Mr. Speaker, of members opposite.

I do not have any difficulty, as a minister, and none of my colleagues on this side of the House would have any difficulty, meeting with any group in the Province to talk about issues of their concern. So, if there are organizations who would like to come in and talk with me about this decision, I am open to do that at any time of the day. Just invite me, or make the request, and I will have the discussion.

What I find very ironic, Mr. Speaker, is the persistence by not only the Leader of the Opposition but the Opposition House Leader in the continuous questions in this House, bringing into question a decision that we made about a location of a service in Grand Falls-Windsor. An attack, I say, Mr. Speaker, it is nothing more than an attack on the people of Grand Falls-Windsor and the people of Central Newfoundland and Labrador, as if it is a place no one would want to work.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, what rubbish I have just heard coming out of the minister!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, the minister has a responsibility, and a responsibility to provide services in this Province based on clinical cases and factual information, not based on what is politically opportunistic for the government –

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. member to complete her question.

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the minister has trouble defending his actions today - that is quite obvious by his comments – but there are four groups in this Province who provide services and treatment to residential youth, and they have serious questions.

Mr. Speaker, the day treatment program that services addictions for youth is based in the St. John’s region, and I guess one of the questions they have is why government would choose to separate those two facilities and those two lots of services.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, I do not have any difficulty at all, none whatsoever. I have no difficulty at all, or this government has no difficulty at all, in defending a decision to relocate a service in Grand Falls-Windsor.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: A community, Mr. Speaker, that has demonstrated their innovative approach to providing health care. They have been leaders on a number of fronts. They have a very comprehensive mental health and addictions program already in existence there. They have proven they have the ability to be able to attract the qualified professionals that we will need to run this program. It is a community that is centrally located, provides easy access in and out of other parts of the Province; because, keep in mind, this is a provincial centre, not a St. John’s centre.

This is purely a provincial centre. It is centrally located, provides ease of access by road or by air, and it provides the professionals that will provide the delivery of those programs, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

One of the other issues that they raise is around the detoxification services. I ask the minister today: Is that part of the program for this centre, and will the people of the Province who need the service be assured that they will have access, and affordable access, to that service?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: To the first part of the question, yes, it will include a detox program. The second piece, by definition - I have said before, but let me repeat it - this is a provincial program. It is a provincial program and we are delivering it from Grand Falls-Windsor. By definition, every single person who lives in Newfoundland and Labrador will have access to that particular program and that particular facility.

This is not a regional facility. This is a provincial facility, so anyone who needs it will have access to it, just like Humberwood does in Corner Brook.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order please!

MR. WISEMAN: This is purely a provincial program, no different than any other provincial program; because we have many provincial programs in St. John’s. People travel to St. John’s to access provincial programs here. Now people will travel to Grand Falls-Windsor to also access a provincial program, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Native Friendship Centre has also raised an issue around the Aboriginal component for this treatment process. They are asking if it will include an Aboriginal component in the program. I ask the minister today if he will commit to that.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, it will absolutely give consideration to the Aboriginal community. In fact, as we develop the program, as we start to look at the design of the building, the programming will be driving the design and the program will give consideration to the Aboriginal needs of this Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, earlier this month The Telegram reported that government had hired an environmental consultant to conduct testing for the presence of hazardous material at the former Janeway site in Pleasantville. The report was submitted and received by government a few weeks ago. I ask the minister: Can he please advise the public what the results of the report were, and whether there are any hazardous materials remaining at the site.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yes, Mr. Speaker, as part of the demolition of the Janeway site we insisted that the contractor engage an environmental consulting firm to assess the work as it was being done, to ensure that there was no contamination left, to ensure that the site was completely remediated.

Back a couple of months ago there was some concern expressed by Occupational Health and Safety and Government Services when they had done some inspections. They issued a stop work order. Our officials in the Department of Transportation and Works met with officials from the company at the time, the contractor, and insisted that there be an independent firm, independent of the government and independent of the contractor, to go in and assess the site. There was some level of asbestos containing material found in a number of the test holes that were done. Probably, my guess is around 25 per cent of the holes had some level of contamination. It is being reviewed now to see if it is within acceptable limits. Mr. Speaker, I will be able to inform the House at a future date as to exactly what that is.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

As a follow up to that story, workers with a construction company cleaning up the site are speaking publicly that there are old fuel tanks that are leaking oil and making the workers sick. They are also raising concerns that government is not taking the issue seriously and may not address the problem.

I ask the minister: What is government planning to do to clean up the old fuel tanks that are buried at the site to ensure that the health and safety of the workers and the residents are taken care of?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Mr. Speaker, the government is well aware of the fuel tanks that are on site at the old Janeway. There was actually a piece included in the tender call for the possible removal of those tanks by that contractor.

Mr. Speaker, I would suggest to the contractor that if they have a problem with air quality there are appropriate breathing apparatuses and clothing and what have you that people are supposed to be wearing. That is part of the reason why Occupational Health and Safety put a stop work order in place on that site back some time ago because the contractor was not using the appropriate safety equipment. So I suggest that the contractor get the job done that he is contracted to do.

We have every intention of removing the tanks. It may or may not be by that contractor. We have the option to have that contractor remove them, but we also have the option to have somebody else remove them.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

If I understood the minister, you said that the first tender that went out included the removal of those fuel tanks from that site. From that, I just ask the minister again for further clarification.

Once the report came back, was the oil tanks a part of that report that came back, because I think there was some concern why the report was not released and they felt that it should not be released too early it would complicate other issues.

I just ask the minister: What was in the report that has not been released and was of concern at that particular time?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Mr. Speaker, the environmental work that was done, that we insisted on having done over the course of the past month or so had nothing to do with the oil tanks. We knew that the oil tanks were there. As I said, when the original tender was awarded to - I will not get into the construction company, but it is well known, it was in the paper. Anyway, it was Kelloway Construction. There was a piece in there – I was not going to say it, but it was in the paper, so why not?

There was a piece in there – I forget what the dollar figure is exactly right now, but we could have engaged that contractor, if we so desired, and the dollar figure was identified for that contractor to remove the fuel storage tanks and remediate that site as well, but it was not something that absolutely had to be done by them.

We have every intention of removing the tanks. However, Mr. Speaker, as I said, it may or may not be by that contractor. I suggest that it will have a lot to do with how well he does the job that he is tasked to do right now.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, my next question is to the Minister of Government Services.

Back in 2004, 229 of our schools were identified as requiring air quality testing for asbestos. However, in the 2009 Auditor General’s Report it was noted that only 28 per cent of those schools had been tested by April, 2007.

I ask the minister: How many of these schools are still waiting to receive proper asbestos testing, and how long will it take to complete the remaining inspections?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Business.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. ORAM: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Of course, we continuously do inspections with all of our buildings, and certainly our schools, and the question that is asked today, I will take under advisement. I will get back to the House with the answer for you.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, air quality and toxic mould in schools are serious issues in this Province. The incidents of air quality problems continue to disrupt the academic year for students, teachers, and staff.

Back in 2006, we asked the Minister of Education whether she would carry out a comprehensive review of air quality in all the schools across the Province. We raised it again last year, and again the need for such a review has been dismissed by the minister. In the meantime, the air quality issue has resulted in permanent closure of one school and temporary closure of ten schools.

I ask the minister: How many more closures will it take to convince the minister that there may be some merit in carrying out a comprehensive review of air quality in the schools?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Mr. Speaker, I am certainly pleased to take that question.

I think the member opposite is fully aware that our government is committed to ensuring safe environments in our schools for our students and our staff.

I think the member is also fully aware that we have engaged in an enhanced inspection process that puts us in a very good position to respond to schools that are in need and experiencing air quality problems.

I remind the member that it is only this year we have reached $125.5 million in investment in repair and maintenance in our budget for schools, Mr. Speaker, because this side of the House and this government is committed to ensuring that our students get the best possible quality of education and the best possible learning environment we can provide.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, I thank the minister for his question, but I have to go back again and ask him: Is he convinced that there may be some merit in carrying out a comprehensive review of air quality in our schools?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Mr. Speaker, I say to the hon. member opposite, if I were convinced that that was the way to go, we would be doing that right now. We are convinced, based on the professional advice that we receive from professionals in the field, that the enhanced inspection is the process to take and the way to go, and that is where we are headed as a government.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, my next question is also for the Minister of Education.

The Auditor General’s report of 2009 recommends that the Department of Education in cooperation with the school districts and the Department of Government Services establish a centralized information system to ensure that the monitoring of school inspection issues and any action taken be recorded properly and shared by all stakeholders.

I ask the minister: Have you started this database for information relating to air quality testing as recommended by the Auditor General, and if so, when will this information be available to the public?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am pleased to inform the House that we have indeed started that process and we are moving along. I cannot tell the member opposite the exact date when it will be ready, but I will certainly look to provide some information and give you clarity on that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I few weeks ago I brought up the issue that patients from Labrador West were forced to move to other parts of the Province to receive kidney dialysis because of the lack of service in their own community.

Mr. Speaker, the Minister of Health and Community Services did commit to looking into the state of dialysis in Labrador West. I would like to ask the minister to give the House an update about how the issue of these dialysis needs in Labrador West is being dealt with.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yes, I can. As I indicated in the House some time ago, the issue of dialysis services in Labrador West had been raised by a number of people, including my colleague, the MHA for that district. I gave an undertaking that we would start to look at dialysis services in that region.

What has happened since then? There have been a couple of things really, one at the community level. There has been a local community that has been mobilized to work with the health authority, to start looking at dialysis services for the region. More precisely: how do you deal with patients who end up with end stage renal failure? That is the bigger question in these dialysis services.

One of the things that has happened is that the nephrologist who takes care of that area, together with the regional health authority and that local committee, has been looking at those individuals in the past who have needed the service, and a profile of those who may need the service in the future. When they are finished their piece of work they will come forward to me with a series of recommendations and I will be able to provide a more appropriate update at that time.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am glad to hear what the minister has said, and I did receive some information to that effect today, but it has been pointed out to me that the doctor who has been assigned to look into the cases of the seven patients from Labrador West has been away for two weeks and people do not know when that doctor is coming back.

Is the minister willing to look into this and to see how quickly this process is going to be dealt with?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, the physician involved, as I understand it, is a nephrologist, someone who has been following these patients. Basically, this is a highly specialized area and only nephrologists are in the best position to provide some clinical assessment of the appropriateness and the nature of the treatment individuals get. So if the individual is on vacation during this period of time, which is not unusual, many people take vacation during the Easter period. So I am assuming, because we have not had a resignation, this must be a temporary absence. The work is committed to be done and I am certain upon his return that the work will continue. As I said earlier, when the committee finishes their work they will make a series of recommendations to me and I will be able then to determine what the future would be for services in Labrador West.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, since the issue of the lack of dialysis treatment in Labrador West came to the forefront we have heard from other areas in the Province, for example, the Southwest Coast and the Burin Peninsula. There are great concerns about the distances that people have to travel to access dialysis. As the minister just pointed out, not just in Labrador West but also in Central Newfoundland in particular

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS MICHAEL: -there is quite a list of patients who are pre-renal and we know that this issue is going to increase as time goes on.

I ask the minister, Mr. Speaker: Will the minister, along with the members of the Department of Health and Community Services, look at working with the regional authorities in developing a province-wide system dealing with the need of dialysis?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: It is interesting the member opposite asked a question about, will we do something? The workings of that have already been done, I say, Mr. Speaker. Back some time ago, as a department, we established a provincial consultant to deal with dialysis services. We had the Centre for Health Research at Memorial help develop a protocol for establishing dialysis services in various parts of the region -

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. WISEMAN: - and a criteria to determine the level of service that should be provided in what regions and how we determine those individuals who are appropriate to be on a satellite dialysis service, those individuals who are more appropriately served on a home-based dialysis service. So that piece of work, Mr. Speaker, is well advanced.

One of the challenges we have in this Province, I say, Mr. Speaker, is the lack of uptake on home dialysis. Many other jurisdictions in this country use home-based dialysis more frequently than we do in this Province. So it is an education piece that we need to do, Mr. Speaker, to make sure people who need dialysis services fully appreciate that there are areas to do that other than in institutions.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please.

The time for questions and answers has expired.

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