MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, yesterday, the
Premier stated that the Department of Justice has
completed a review on the Upper Churchill deal and had
received some legal opinions from Quebec lawyers. These
legal opinions have since been forwarded to CF(L)Co, as
we know, and they have asked Hydro-Quebec to have
discussions around renegotiating the deal.
I ask the
Premier today if he is prepared to table those legal
opinions so that they are available to the public.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, the level of betrayal of
the hon. member opposite to the people of Newfoundland
and Labrador never ceases to astound me.
She is asking today that we
release the legal opinions that could possibly be used,
if an action is commenced by CF(L)Co, and give them to
Hydro-Quebec so that they can prepare their case against
Newfoundland and Labrador and the people of Newfoundland
and Labrador. Absolutely not!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, who does not have access
to these opinions right now? The government has them,
Nalcor has them, CF(L)Co has them, of which Hydro-Quebec
is one-third shareholders of CF(L)Co; so my guess is
they have access to them. The only people, the only
stakeholders in this that do not have any access to any
legal opinions to substantiate the case the government
claims they have, are the people of the Province.
I ask you, Premier:
Why will you not disclose the
information that will substantiate the propaganda that
is being put out there by your government?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, Nalcor Energy does not
have our legal opinions.
What we have indicated to them is
what we have discovered, which we felt was the proper
interpretation of Quebec’s civil code when it comes to
good faith or bona fides with respect to the ongoing
obligation under contracts. That general information was
disclosed to CF(L)Co, and CF(L)Co have then gone and
gotten their own legal opinions.
So these are opinions that are
held by the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador.
They are confidential opinions. There is a
solicitor-client privilege between the Government of
Newfoundland and Labrador and the Department of Justice,
and those legal opinions that have come in from other
sources.
We would basically be giving away
the farm; we would be showing exactly what our position
is. I mean I cannot be any simpler or any plainer to
you, that you do not give the other side, in a legal
case, your legal opinions. You do not sit down in a game
of cards at a poker table or a game of 120s and show
your cards on the table and then play out the game of
120s. That is not the way it works.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please.
The hon. the Premier to conclude
his remarks.
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
There is something, obviously, the
Leader of the Opposition is missing here because I
cannot understand why she is trying to accommodate
Quebec in this whole exercise.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
When Hydro-Quebec is a shareholder
of CF(L)Co, who are the very people that are issuing
this challenge on behalf of the government, one would
think they do have all the information.
Mr. Speaker, back in May of 2008,
the Minister of Natural Resources who happens to be the
Deputy Premier, stated that they had legal opinions at
that time in the Province. Her big statement of the day
is that they were getting ready to sue the federal
government and Hydro-Quebec on redress on the Upper
Churchill. Mr. Speaker, no sooner was she out of the
press conference then she was backtracking on her
statements saying that she had misspoken.
Well, Mr. Speaker, my question to
the Premier today is the same legal opinions that were
being referenced by the Deputy Premier over a year ago.
Is that the same premise under
which you, your government, Nalcor and CF(L)Co are
proceeding today?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the
Opposition is looking for trails and traces and trying
to thread pieces together that does not make any sense.
Mr. Speaker, when she has the facts before her she does
not know how to interpret them.
No, Mr. Speaker, there was nothing
I said back at that time that had any reference
whatsoever. I misspoke in a news conference. I owned
that completely; I withdrew those remarks. They have
nothing to do with any action that has been taken since
that time, Mr. Speaker, none at all.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Deputy Premier went out there
on that day with the big press conference, Mr. Speaker,
made the big statements and, no doubt, had misspoken
because she had nothing to substantiate of that of which
she spoke, and that is why she withdrew the comments.
Mr. Speaker, let’s see if there is anything to
substantiate the claims that they are making today.
The Premier committed yesterday,
in the media, to provide any precedents involving court
cases where contracts were overturned as a result of the
1994 amendments to the Quebec civil code, which are
really what is at the heart of this entire challenge
that is being launched by CF(L)Co. According to Ed
Martin - I listened to his comments on the radio.
I ask the Premier, Mr. Speaker, -
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS JONES: -
what precedents are
there, and I ask if you would at least be prepared to
table the information around those cases that you feel
will substantiate your claim?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, the hon. member opposite
is frightened to death that we are going to be
successful, that we are finally going to turn around and
get redress and reverse the terrible inequity and, I
guess, the wrongdoing that has been done to the people
of Newfoundland and Labrador as a result of a Liberal
government. This happened back in 1969. There has been a
terrible injustice. We have been wronged. We have lost a
fortune. We are going to lose another $60-plus billion
over the next thirty years, and she is frightened to
death that maybe, maybe we are going to do something
good for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador.
I watched in astonishment last
night when she did a scrum outside and basically said
that she really did not have any confidence in what was
going on with regard to our legal action. What kind of a
message is that to the people of the Province? What kind
of message is that to the people of Quebec, who are
watching it and saying, a politician in Newfoundland and
Labrador does not think Newfoundland and Labrador has a
leg to stand on in its legal case?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
We have no problem with success in
this Province; in fact, we want to see as much of it as
we possibly can. What we do we have a problem with, Mr.
Speaker, is a government who continues to make mistakes,
and they have admitted to a lot of them in the last few
months, Mr. Speaker.
Let’s not forget, this is also a
government about fluff. They were going to put
transmission lines through a national park but turned
around after and told people, we are just kidding. So,
Mr. Speaker, what do you expect when you lay something
out there in the public but you do not want to
substantiate it?
So I say to the Premier today, I
say to the Premier today, the research that we have
done, very limited, very limited, I will admit to that,
Mr. Speaker, but there has never –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask members to my left for their
co-operation and I ask the hon. the Leader of the
Opposition to pose her question now.
MS JONES:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker,
because it is a very important question.
In fact, we want to know where the
precedented cases are that the Premier speaks of because
according to the knowledge that we have,
Mr. Speaker, there has been no
serious address or definition by the provincial courts
or by the Supreme Court as it relates to the Quebec
criminal code (inaudible), and
I ask the Premier today if he will
give us that (inaudible)?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the
Opposition has raised the issue of research, and I can’t
- not take advantage of this opportunity to point out
the dearth lack of any ability they have over there to
research information. Yesterday, Mr. Speaker, the House
Leader for the Opposition stood in this House and
accused Nalcor of spending nearly $1 million on Summa in
Ottawa, a lobbyist company, to lobby on behalf of them.
The information he said he got from the federal
government Web site. Mr. Speaker, he was completely,
totally wrong.
First of all, there is no federal
government agency that provides information on fees that
are paid to lobbyist firms on companies’ behalf. Second
of all, the information –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the hon. minister to
conclude her answer now.
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
This is important. The $960,000
that was referenced on that Web site was for three
specific initiatives of this government that are being
done on behalf of Nalcor. In fact, since 2006, only
$298,500 has been spent by Nalcor (inaudible).
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Great diversion by the minister
from the question that was asked to her. Obviously, they
have no precedented cases. They have no information to
tender. They have nothing to substantiate, other than
fluff, Mr. Speaker.
So let me ask the minister this.
The amendments of the Quebec Civil Code, which took
place in 1994, and we know that the Churchill Falls
Agreement was signed in 1969, so I ask:
Is there any retroactive clauses
in this agreement that would allow you to even have the
contract addressed twenty-five or thirty years later?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
So, Mr. Speaker, the hon. member
opposite has talked about her research and the detailed
research that she does, and how strong it is, and how
accurate it is.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
The Opposition House Leader, who I
presume deals from the same –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
– brilliant pool of research that the
Opposition Leader deals from, came up yesterday with a
figure that had absolutely nothing to do with what he
pretended it was all about. In fact, the $960,000 was
for the Northern Strategic Plan, for diesel subsidies,
which I assume the Member for Cartwright-L’Anse au Clair
is in favour of, and energy related studies for the
Department of Natural Resources. That is what the
$960,000 was for.
So this is the research. So, if
your researchers are telling you you cannot do something
on a legal case, or they are telling you about
precedents, ignore them, because they do not know what
they are talking about, like you do not know what you
are talking about.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Still no answers. Still nothing to
substantiate the claims that they are making. They
cannot tell us if the Quebec Civil Code that was amended
in 1994 is even going to be retroactive to deal with
this issue. They cannot tell us if there are any
precedented cases that exist in the courts since 1994,
Mr. Speaker.
Maybe they can tell us this,
if Quebec Hydro refuses to meet
and negotiate before the January 15 deadline that you
have put in place, what is the next course of action? Is
there a case to take to the Supreme Court or not?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, we will cross that
bridge when we come to it. That is an action in good
faith. We are assuming that there may be good faith by
Hydro-Quebec. It will be a first, believe me, if they
happen to do it. Unlike my friends opposite who think
they are probably the greatest thing since sliced bread.
Having said that, we will - if at
the end of the day there is no renegotiation, then we
will leave that matter in the hands of CF(L)Co. They
have the benefit of legal opinions which they have
performed, which I assume are similar to the legal
opinions which we have which indicate that there are
other remedies available. That is the simplest and most
general way I can put it for you.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
My next questions are for the
Minister of Health, and I know he is awfully excited to
be getting on his feet in this session of the House.
Mr. Speaker, today marks World
AIDS Day and the Province has been without an infectious
disease specialist since March of this year. In fact, in
questioning in the spring session of the House of
Assembly and in the early fall session, the government
had committed to launch a recruitment strategy to fill
those particular positions. To date, they have still not
been done.
I ask the minister today:
What the plan of action is and
what are they doing to recruit these specialists for the
Province after such a long period of time of having the
positions vacant?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Leader of the Opposition is
accurate that the infectious disease specialist position
is vacant; however, we did have a locum here for the
Province in November. This locum is now finished but has
expressed interest in coming to work. We are also
speaking to another infectious disease specialist who is
interested in coming to the Province and doing locum
work in January.
In terms of recruiting doctors or
physicians, Mr. Speaker, we currently have, I think it
is 1,042 doctors in the Province – more than we have
ever had. We are currently in negotiations with the
medical association. Most significantly, Mr. Speaker, we
are ready at some point in the near future, to release
the market adjustment policy which will allow us to
address the situations of recruitment and retention in
hard to fill positions. This has come out of the
bargaining process, Mr. Speaker, and we are confident
that in the not too distant future we will be able to
fill this position.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Right now, today, I think it is
slated for three infectious disease specialists for this
Province, of which we have neither one. We have 130
patients today who are suffering from AIDS and HIV who
need this particular service on a regular basis. We have
just come through a major pandemic in the Province, not
quite over yet, with regard to the H1N1.
I ask the minister today:
In the absence of the many months
that have went by with no success of recruiting not even
one of these three specialists for the Province, why are
you not looking at some kind of a package that we could
offer to retain one of those locums that are currently
visiting every month, or couple of months, to come and
stay and practice in Newfoundland and Labrador?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, Mr. Speaker, I just indicated to
the Leader of the Opposition that we are in negotiations
with the medical association on an ongoing basis. We are
talking to a couple of doctors who are specialists in
this area, with a view to recruiting them to the
Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.
Mr. Speaker, we are offering
attractive bonuses in terms of retention and
recruitment. Also, Mr. Speaker, Newfoundland and
Labrador offers a quality of life that doctors are
looking for today. There is more than just money, Mr.
Speaker, it is good place to work; it is a good place to
raise a family. In fact, Mr. Speaker, I can think of no
better place.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for The Straits &
White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, on June 2, 2008 the
Western School Board -
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. DEAN:
-decided that Bayview Regional
Collegiate in St. Lunaire-Griquet would close its door
upon the completion of a new facility in St. Anthony.
This closure of Bayview would mean
that children would have to be bussed up to forty
kilometres to St. Anthony which poses great safety
concerns for parents, especially during the winter
months. Also, the loss of this school could mean that
the community of St. Lunaire-Griquet would lose an
important part of its identity.
So I would ask the Minister of
Education: What has your
department done to ensure the best interest of the
students, and the community of St. Lunaire-Griquet, will
be served by keeping Bayview academy open?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I thank the member opposite for
his question. A very interesting question. I wish I
could ask it back because I remember the member opposite
making some very public and clear statements on
commitments that he would honour if elected as the
member of the other side.
What I have done is I have
honoured the commitment that I made at a public meeting
at which three members opposite attended and a number of
people on this side of the House attended. That was to
ensure that due process was followed, to ensure that the
concerns raised to me by members of the public meeting,
each and every single one of them were brought to the
attention of the school board and that I would direct
the school board to respond appropriately to the people,
to the town council, to the school council, to address
the concerns they brought forward.
Mr. Speaker, I have followed
through on that commitment.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for The Straits &
White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, back in 2005 there was
an announcement by the Nova Central School Board that
Leo Burke Academy in Bishop’s Falls would be closing and
students were to be bussed to Grand Falls to attend
school.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for The
Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
At that time government, Mr. Speaker,
decided to reverse a decision made by the school board,
and Premier Williams was quoted as saying: The Province
will continue to overrule the decisions of government
boards and consultants with which it disagrees. He also
stated: You will see it again.
So I ask the minister:
Will you commit to reversing the
decision made by the Western School District to close
Bayview Regional Collegiate?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, I am prepared to make
all kinds of commitments today, and I am prepared to
review for the member opposite the kind of leadership we
have provided for education in this Province. If we had
the time, I could talk about the elimination of school
fees, and the provision of textbooks. I could talk about
the quality of facilities we are putting in place. I am
prepared to talk about the $120-plus million we are
putting into infrastructure and new schools and
renovations and maintenance.
I am prepared to talk, Mr.
Speaker, about a democratic process that this government
supports that just saw new school boards elected in this
Province, and I am prepared to talk about my commitment
to let those boards do the job that they have been
elected to do.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for The Straits &
White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, I appreciate the
minister’s commitment. However, my question was:
Given the establishment of a
precedent, would the minister be willing to commit to
reversing the decision made by the Western School
District to close Bayview Regional Collegiate?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of
Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, to pick up where I left
off, I am certainly prepared to talk about the new
schools we are building in Placentia and in Torbay and
in Paradise.
I am also prepared to, once again,
reiterate this government’s commitment, Mr. Speaker,
that all of us recognize the role of school boards in
this Province. As a matter of fact, this government made
the decision to invest more than $300,000 into democracy
to promote the election of school boards because it is
their role, Mr. Speaker, to provide governance and to
organize schools and school systems in this Province. My
commitment is to ensure that those boards do their jobs.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for The
Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, the 2009-2010 academic
year has already been marked by four school closures due
to air quality issues. We have urged the Department of
Education, repeatedly, to make air quality inspections
mandatory in all schools throughout the Province and for
inspections, of course, to be made public. The
Department of Education continues to reject the idea and
schools continue to be disrupted.
I ask the minister:
How many more times will we have
to raise this issue before you will take the initiative
to reconsider the way that air quality is monitored in
our schools?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The Chair is having great
difficulty in hearing the questions asked, and I can
only imagine what the ministers are trying to do in
listening and trying to provide an answer. I ask members
to provide an opportunity here for questions to be asked
and answers to be given.
The hon. the Minister of
Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I know my colleagues get rather
excited when we talk about education. We have done so
many wonderful things in this Province. It is really
hard to contain ourselves.
I thank the member opposite for
the question. I am gratified by the amount of attention
you are giving me today. I appreciate that.
Let me remind you of a couple of
things that I am sure your colleague next to you from
Port de Grave has reminded you of. We have invested this
year $120-plus million, Mr. Speaker, in school
maintenance, in renovations and in air quality projects.
Mr. Speaker, that includes everything from replacing
roofs, windows, and siding to tiding, to building new
schools.
Mr. Speaker, I would also remind
the member opposite, or share for his knowledge perhaps,
that is more than a 700 per cent increase in investment
in school facilities for the purposes of things like
controlling and fixing air quality problems, more than
700 per cent increase from when the Liberal government
was in power, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Let me also say to the member
opposite’s question, Mr. Speaker, that they are clearly
misinformed about the kinds of things that will fix air
quality problems.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for The
Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, on previous occasions
when we raised the question of whether air quality
testing should be conducted in the Province’s schools,
the minister said the practice of conducting enhanced
inspections is the best way forward. However, when mould
issues are found and renovations are done the
contractors frequently use air quality testing to
determine whether it is safe for students to reoccupy
the school. So there seems to be a contradiction going
on.
I ask the minister:
Why is it that air quality testing
is not being used to detect problems in the first
instance, but is being used to give the green light for
the reoccupation of schools?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
First of all, Mr. Speaker, thank you
again for the question and the opportunity to elaborate
a little further on some of the things that I have been
talking about.
For the member opposite, let me
say, first of all, that clearly people who are experts
in the field of air quality will tell you, number one,
that air quality testing will not solve the problems,
and in many cases, many of the problems we are having
with air quality in our schools cannot be detected by
the kind of air quality testing that the member opposite
talks about.
Well, let me just say this, Mr.
Speaker, let me just say this, to be very clear for the
people who are watching and listening to this. The
problems we have discovered recently with air quality
testing have not been discovered through air quality
testing. They have been discovered because this
government has gone in and invested money to upgrade
facilities. Problems, Mr. Speaker, that would not have
been detected, would not have been detected, if we had
not been investing time and money to ensure the
facilities were as good as they possibly could be for
students.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I could not believe
my ears yesterday when I heard the Minister of Health
and Community Services say in this House that the
long-term care and community services strategy is not
complete. Mr. Speaker, at the very least he should have
known – he indicated he had been listening to the news
and he had seen the town hall that I held last week on
CBC on the Internet. He should have known I was coming
with questions on home care yesterday. Mr. Speaker, this
government announced they were working on a strategy in
February of 2008. It was the first time it was said in
this House by the then Minister of Health, and since
that time we have heard nothing but empty promises.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister:
Why is the long-term care and community support strategy
not ready?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Mr. Speaker, I say to the member
opposite, as I have indicated yesterday, the strategy is
not complete. I am not satisfied where it stands in our
department and I have decided that there is further work
that needs to be done in relation to this strategy. That
does not take away, Mr. Speaker, from the amount of
money that we have spent on long-term care. As I
outlined yesterday, I cannot even add it all up there is
so much there, in terms of so many different long-term
care facilities.
Also, Mr. Speaker, the amount of
money that we have put into home care, and the amount of
money that we have put into health care in general. Mr.
Speaker, $2.6 billion of our budget, 40 per cent of the
budget is into health care. There is a $1 billion
increase over five years ago, and it is double the
budget over a decade ago. We are the second highest
spending per capita in the country, just after Alberta.
Now what does that tell you, I say to the member
opposite?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
I did not ask about our health
care expenditures, I am well aware of the budget. What I
am talking about is why this government is not setting
home care as a priority. The minister should have been
able to announce yesterday that the strategy was
finished. Mr. Speaker, with so many people hurting
because they cannot afford home care or get adequate
home care, government’s lack of action on this serious
situation is unjust. No less than unjust.
So, Mr. Speaker, I ask the
minister: When is government going to make universal
home care a priority, and is that the strategy he is
working on?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It is hard to answer in forty-five
seconds the question being asked by the member opposite.
In terms of universal health care, it is my
understanding, Mr. Speaker, that across this country the
jurisdictional scan I have had completed indicates that
there is no universal home care.
I did indicate, Mr. Speaker,
yesterday that I would outline how our financial
assessment tool would benefit people. There have been,
Mr. Speaker, 1,435 clients reassessed. The number of
decreased contributions is $937, resulting, Mr. Speaker,
in a $3.3 million cost to the government. To give you an
example, a monthly income of $2,100, Mr. Speaker, that
would have currently had to give or contribute $1,000,
will now contribute $124 for a decrease in the client
contribution of $953.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
That is money in the pockets of
people of this Province that they can spend.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
I am amazed by the minister’s
statement about doing a scan and not finding universal
home care across the country. He had better check on his
own researchers because there are at least three that
have complete, total, universal home care: Ontario,
Alberta, Manitoba for three.
Mr. Speaker, if home care is a
priority for this government, why is it that a year ago
last month the then minister said that the strategic
plan would be released in the very near future? That was
a year ago, November 25.
Can the minister define for this
House: With the many people across his Province who need
home care services, what the very near future means to
you?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Mr. Speaker, I became Minister of
Health approximately two months ago. I indicated at that
time that I would speak to the people of this Province
whenever needs arose and address concerns, as we did in
Flower’s Cove and Lewisporte and as we did with H1N1.
The strategy, Mr. Speaker, will be
developed and it will be provided when it is completed.
I am not going to rush a strategy simply because the
Leader of the NDP wishes to see the same. I cannot give
her a time frame as to when it will be done; but I can
tell you one thing, Mr. Speaker, when it is done, it
will be done right.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
A quick question from the hon. the
Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Minister of Natural Resources
and the Premier both alluded to the fact that I
supposedly gave some incorrect or misleading information
to this House yesterday.
Mr. Speaker, I have with me in my
hand here the information that I referenced yesterday,
which I will table with this House. It was obtained
directly from the Office of the Commissioner of Lobbying
of Canada. The information shows that Nalcor, which is
owned 100 per cent by the Government of Newfoundland and
Labrador, paid $960,000. It had nothing to do with what
the Premier said about subsidization of oil rigs. It had
to do with assistance for infrastructure and development
of the Lower Churchill. It had to do with capacity of
hydro-electricity in the Province of Newfoundland.
Mr. Speaker,
I am prepared to table what I
have, I challenge the minister and ask the minister,
will you table what you are referencing which says that
I am not right?
Thank you.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Mr. Speaker, all I have to do if he
tables the document that he has, which is from the Web
site, that is the only evidence I need. The category
right along that describes what the money is for is
money from the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador
to Nalcor. It nowhere says that that money was used to
pay Summa. The money is money that Nalcor received
outside their core budget for three different projects.
It has -
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MS DUNDERDALE:
You have it. You are tabling it.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS DUNDERDALE:
You do not know how to read the Web
site.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The time allotted for questions
and answers has expired.