MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, on Friday I met with
the federal Fisheries Minister, Gail Shea, to discuss a
number of important issues related to the Province’s
industry. During our discussion, I learned that proposed
NAFO amendments will be ratified regardless of the vote
that takes place in the House of Commons this week.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the Premier
today, realizing that the ratification of these
amendments will have a significant negative impact on
the Province’s industry on a go-forward basis:
Will he contact Prime Minister
Harper for an immediate meeting with him to discuss this
issue and to bring the concerns of Newfoundlanders and
Labradorians directly to his attention before this
decision is binding?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
This convention was brought before
the House of Commons in June, Mr. Speaker. Since then, I
would like to outline what has happened. Our Premier has
written to the Prime Minister on two occasions. The
former Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture appeared
before three committees; we have met. I have personally
sent off a letter just the past few days ago asking
Minister Shea to certainly not allow this amendment to
be ratified.
Mr. Speaker, we have to commend
our federal Liberal MPs for the work that they have
done. I certainly thank the Opposition Leader for going
up on Friday. I do not know if they have done it before,
Mr. Speaker, or not, but maybe too little, too late.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the hon. member to conclude
his answer.
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, to the point of what we
have been doing as a government, we have done everything
that we possibly can to make our point, not only this
government, but many people in the Province –
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
For the minister’s attention, we
have also participated in a lot of letter writing
campaigns to the federal government in the last year on
this issue.
The reality is, Mr. Speaker,
letters are not working. This issue is not dead until
the treaty is signed and it is binding. Today, that is
not the case.
I ask the minister and I ask the
Premier: Are you prepared to
make the call to the Prime Minister of this country to
outline the impact that this will have on
Newfoundlanders and Labradorians, and to ask that this
agreement not be signed because it is not in the best
interest of the fishing industry in this country?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, I hope to be in contact
with Minister Shea before this day is out. I have asked
the staff to arrange that I make a call to her.
Mr. Speaker, the measures that I
have outlined that have been taken by this government,
we have contacted our Atlantic Province counterparts to
see if they would support us. It looks like, Mr.
Speaker, that in this case here, we are on our own with
this, not barring, like I said, the representation, that
certainly I am pleased to hear that the Opposition have
made. Mr. Speaker, with all the federal Liberal MPs that
are up there, the support of Mr. Harris from the NDP, we
have made our case, we are continuing to make our case.
If luck is with me, Mr. Speaker, I will speak to
Minister Shea before the day is out.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It has also come to my attention
that the provincial officials who were present at the
NAFO meetings where these amendments were originally
brought forward had fully supported their
implementation.
I ask the Premier today:
Why would the provincial
government representatives be directed to support these
amendments on behalf of the government and the people of
Newfoundland and Labrador?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, I cannot speak to what
officials have done to this particular point. It is
something that I certainly will follow up on and check
into.
Mr. Speaker, one thing about it,
our stand as a government is very clear. I have outlined
it, we are against this and we will continue to pursue
it until the last opportunity that we have, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Well maybe the minister could get
the answer as to why the officials of his department
would have sat at the NAFO table and originally
supported these amendments.
Mr. Speaker, another issue that I
discussed with the minister was the fish buyback
program, which saw a grave injustice done to the
fishermen and their families whereby some were taxed on
the money they received and others were not. The
deadline for action for these hundreds of fisherpeople
in our Province is coming in the spring of 2010. So time
is running out for many of those people.
I ask the Minister of Finance
today: Has your government,
through the Department of Finance and Treasury Board,
conducted any analysis of the tax laws of 1999 to
strengthen the case of these nearly 800 fisherpeople and
their families in this Province to present to Canada
Revenue Agency and the federal government?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. T. MARSHALL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I can assure the hon. Opposition
Leader that the government is constantly doing analysis
of our tax revenues and our expenditures in the
Province, but I do not recall being specifically advised
about an analysis of 1999. Obviously, I would be happy
to look into that and if there is such an analysis done
I would be very happy to advise the hon. member and the
members of this House.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, this is an injustice
that has been done to fisherpeople and their families in
this Province and they deserve to have a fair hearing on
the issue. Mr. Speaker, the federal government has not
budged on this particular initiative and since this case
has been brought forward there are approximately
ninety-two of these individuals who have passed away in
our Province.
I ask the minister today:
Through the Department of Finance
and Treasury Board are you prepared to advance this
issue with the federal Minister of Canada Revenue and
the Government of Canada and present a case on their
behalf to ensure that these fisherpeople are treated
properly and are repaid the money they deserve?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. T. MARSHALL:
Mr. Speaker, as we all know, there is
a federal Department of National Revenue and there is
the Province. We charge taxes in order to raise revenue
to carry out the programs that the people of this
Province want us to carry out. We have personal income
tax, we have corporate taxes, but also the federal
government have their own taxes. That seems to be an
issue that is under the complete jurisdiction and
confidence of the federal government, and any
representations on behalf of those fisherpeople I think
have to be made to the federal Minister of Finance and
the federal Minister of National Revenue.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
My next questions are for the
Minister of Education. Since raising the issues
contained in the report on Jens Haven Memorial School in
Nain I have heard from a number of teachers and leaders
in the community who still have concerns. Mr. Speaker,
while these individuals are certainly proud of the
accomplishments of many of the students who attend this
school and want to promote the positive impacts of their
community, and aspects, they also indicated that they
have many problems and concerns with the highlights in
the report of 2006.
I ask the minister, with the
information that you have been provided and recognizing
the fact that two-thirds of the children in this school
have been impacted by trauma and tragedy in their lives,
I have to ask minister: Why
have no physiologists been sent into this community and
into this school to work with those children?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I thank the member opposite for
her question. I, like many of our officials and school
board people, share her concerns around what is
happening in all of our schools, not only the one
reported that we are discussing here today. We are fully
aware of the issues and we offer our continued support.
Last week I highlighted a number of significant
initiatives that we have undertaken.
As a matter of fact, Mr. Speaker,
one of the initiatives that I announced around the
teaching units was confirmed as being the basis of that
report by the author, I think it was on Friday, who
clearly said that the basis of that report was to
present the negative side of that school for the
purposes of securing resources, and, in fact, left out a
lot of the many positive things happening in that
school. That is what tends to be overlooked here.
Mr. Speaker, we are working with
the Nunatsiavit government, we are working with the
Department of Labrador and Aboriginal Affairs, and we
are working with the local school board. As I said last
week, we have responded with extra resources. We
responded with special services support. We are
reviewing the current curriculum offerings to make sure
it is appropriate to the students, and we will continue
to respond as we are needed to.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The minister did not answer my
question which was related to the two-thirds of the
children in the school who had been affected by trauma
and tragedy in their lives, and why there is no
psychologist that have been sent in there.
Mr. Speaker, the minister did
state again today and last week, that there have been
some additional teaching units. I know that most of them
are around FAS support, but I ask him today:
Why is there no guidance
counsellor on staff for the full school year? As I
understand it now, there is one visiting guidance
counsellor who comes out of St. John’s, who spends about
three to four days out of a month at this school,
weather permitting and all the rest of the issues around
travel into the area. I also ask him, why there are
still vacant teaching positions at this school?
One of the areas that is vacant –
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the hon. member to conclude
her question.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
One of the vacant positions is in
the Grade 4 area and we know that 88 per cent of the
Grade IV students were performing at a (inaudible) rate.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of
Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, the issue of teacher
staffing throughout the Province is a challenge in many
places. Specific to the allocation of guidance
counsellors, we have two significant challenges; one is
the number of qualified and trained guidance counsellors
available to us. A result of that is it is hard to fill
positions, particularly in smaller communities. The
member has already highlighted one of the initiatives
that we have undertaken to try and at least address some
of the burden. We are flying itinerant counsellors in
and that is not the ideal, it absolutely is not. It is
happening in other parts of the Province as well, Mr.
Speaker.
One of the things we have done is
we have also offered bonuses to teachers to try and fill
the positions. The specifics of the positions that have
been named I cannot respond to because staffing of
schools, as the member would know, is the responsibility
of school boards, not the Department of Education. What
I can say –
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the hon. minister to
conclude his response.
MR. KING:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I can say that we have responded
to the best of our ability when we have been asked to by
school boards to support them in their efforts to
recruit trained personnel.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Realizing that there have been
some efforts made on behalf of the government but
realizing as well that there are many improvements that
still could be initiated, I ask the minister today:
If he is prepared to commit to
implementing a monitoring process that will determine
what the effectiveness is or have been of the new
investments in units in that school and if he is
prepared to put in place a plan to address the other
issues that are outstanding?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, let’s define what some
efforts entail, because the member tends to present a
case here that we have done absolutely nothing or next
to nothing to support the students in Nain.
We have addressed, first of all,
the first and most significant issue raised to us which
was the allocation of more teaching resources to that
school. We have done that, Mr. Speaker. We provide
training in FASD to the teachers who required it, Mr.
Speaker. We have also introduced after school
programming and a Homework Haven, Mr. Speaker to that
community. We provide library night; we provide adult
basic education Level I and II, Mr. Speaker, to
residents of that community. All of that - those things
are things that we have been asked to support and we
have responded positively. So to stand here and say we
have done some things, Mr. Speaker, is an injustice to
the actions that we have taken as a government and the
school board has taken to try and provide support to the
students of Nain.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Again, the minister has not
answered the questions so I will try to phrase it a
little bit differently. In light of the fact that there
are still issues in this school, that there are still
individuals who work and live in this community who feel
that the improvements have not been enough and that
there are still significant issues that exist there,
I ask the minister: Is he prepared
to do an evaluation to look at how effective the
investments have been, and what is required in order to
move forward?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, we do evaluations of all
of our schools on an ongoing basis. We evaluate through
academic programs, through things like the public exam
results, through criterion reference testing results,
Mr. Speaker. We monitor attendance rate, we monitor
dropout rates and we monitor graduation rates. We will
continue to do that with that school. If there are other
initiatives that the school board would like us to
become engaged with, with them, we will certainly
consider that.
I can say, Mr. Speaker, for the
member’s benefit, that the statistics show us, over the
last two years, the graduation rates have improved in
that school, the attendance rates have improved and the
percent of students absent from school has dropped.
So, Mr. Speaker, we will continue
to provide the supports, as we are asked to provide by
the school board, recognizing that it is the local
school working with the school board who helps to set
their own localized priorities; we work with them to
support them.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The doctorate program in clinical
psychology currently being offered at Memorial
University is designed to provide comprehensive high
level training in the practice of clinical psychology.
The graduate program, Mr. Speaker, is helping to address
the need of clinical psychologists not only in
Newfoundland and Labrador, but across Canada. Students
enrolled in the program have been assured that they will
be able to complete the program; however, there is a
growing concern that funding will not be in place for
future students to enrol.
I ask the minister today:
Is government willing to commit
the necessary funding to ensure that this program will
continue into the future?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I certainly want to thank the
member opposite for praising the programs that we are
offering at Memorial University. We, on this side of the
House, everyday talk about proud we are of Memorial and
the kinds of programs that we are able to offer. Indeed,
the one that she has referenced today is a good program,
it is a strong program and it is certainly recognized
across the country as one that is needed, Mr. Speaker.
With respect to budget
commitments, I am not in a position to make a budget
commitment today. I can only say to the member opposite
that the decision on program offerings is one of
Memorial’s. They are autonomous; they make their own
academic choices about programming. We are engaged in
discussions with them, and we will continue to be
engaged in discussions over the coming weeks and months
relative to their budget priorities. We work with them
based on their priorities, Mr. Speaker. I do not sit
here and make the priorities on program offerings for
Memorial. I can say that there is absolutely, absolutely
no plan to eliminate that program.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, they did not mind
intervening to select a president a couple of years ago,
but they have a huge problem to intervene to save an
important program at our university that is desperately
needed.
Mr. Speaker, the reality is this,
many of the people in this program realized that the
application for applying for the next season is on
February 1, and if there is no assurance from the
Province for money to continue with this program, it
could very well be cancelled. The minister knows that
the university, in order for them to fund this program,
they will have to cut another program.
I ask you, Minister:
In the absence of coming forward
with the funding to allow this program to continue, what
would you suggest they cut at our university?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, I thank you.
It is getting really hard to stand
in the House and listen to the member opposite continue
to praise the initiatives of our government, and I thank
her for it, because she just referenced the latest
initiative, which was the securing of a new president
for Memorial. We could not be happier; we have a
top-notch candidate.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
We have a top-notch candidate, Mr.
Speaker, who is going to take Memorial from where it is
today and is going to lead it into the future and help
it grow and become a vital part of our Province as it
continues to be. So I thank the member opposite for
pointing that out for the House and for everybody
listening that they support that as well, Mr. Speaker.
With respect to the question on
the program at Memorial, Mr. Speaker, I can only say it
is a shame that the member would stand up, opposite
here, and cast fear and doubt out through the public
airwaves to students to suggest that the program might
disappear when, in fact, Memorial has made public
statement that they have no plans whatsoever to cancel
that program.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I am sure the University of New
Brunswick is quite happy today too, I say to the
minister. We have a great Newfoundlander and Labradorian
running the university over in New Brunswick, Mr.
Speaker, in Dr. Campbell.
Mr. Speaker, Memorial University
is renowned for being one of the best universities in
the country; there is no doubt about that. Programs,
such as this one, is currently the only one of its kind
in English speaking Canada and it is attracting new
students to our university and to our Province. Mr.
Speaker, you combine that with the fact that there about
200 people in Newfoundland and Labrador on the wait-list
today to see clinical psychologists. When you look at
that kind of information I think it should be a priority
for the government to continue funding this particular
program -
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the hon. member to pose her
question.
MS JONES:
I ask the minister today:
Instead of putting the university
through the search of trying to find the revenues within
their budget to continue with this program, why don’t
you and your government -
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
If the hon. member has a question,
I ask that she pose it now.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, I will have to repeat
the question again because I was almost finished it. In
light of the fact, Mr. Speaker –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
Members know that there are
forty-five seconds allotted here in the House to ask a
question and forty-five seconds to ask one. The present
member has been one minute and twenty-six seconds.
The hon. the Minister of Education
or I ask the member to pose another question.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I am suspecting you will not give
me the same minute and forty-five, but I will try to
restrict my response. I did not hear a question, so I am
not going to call it an answer.
I will say that as happy as the
University of New Brunswick might be, we are just as
happy here in Newfoundland and Labrador with the
candidate that we have secured.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
We are quite proud of the candidate
we have secured, Mr. Speaker, and we are quite happy
with the direction that we see Memorial going in. We are
proud to be a supporter of that, Mr. Speaker, with the
kind of investments we continue to make in
post-secondary education in this Province.
I say again, Mr. Speaker, because
I have said this twice already, it is a shame that a
member would stand opposite in this House, in the public
airwaves and to suggest to students who are out there
nervous about a program that they might lose it.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, on Friday past the
Supreme Court of Newfoundland and Labrador dismissed the
application of Darlene Neville, in her capacity as Child
and Youth Advocate, to address the House of Assembly in
regard to her suspension.
I ask the minister:
Can government now confirm whether
they will be bringing a resolution calling for her
removal from office to the House during this session?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. T. MARSHALL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I believe there were two actions
taken by Ms Neville in the Supreme Court of Newfoundland
last week. The first was the one that the hon. member
refers to and that was dismissed. There was another
action that, I believe, continued or has been set over
until such time in January. The government will be
bringing forward, before the end of this session, a
resolution with respect to Ms Neville.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, after the same court,
the Supreme Court of Newfoundland and Labrador, denied
Fraser March’s application to be heard by the House of
Assembly government gave Mr. March an opportunity to
present his case to retired Justice John O’Neill in an
independent review, which is currently underway. This
was all after a resolution for his dismissal had been
passed here in the House of Assembly.
I ask the minister:
Would government be prepared, in
the case of Ms Neville, to permit a similar independent
review by a retired judge prior to the resolution coming
to the House of Assembly?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. T. MARSHALL:
Mr. Speaker, the answer to the
question is no.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Mr. Speaker, we are aware that the
current Minister of Health and the former Minister of
Finance and President of Treasury Board stated when Ms
Neville was originally suspended by government that she
would have an opportunity to state her case to Cabinet
before any resolution was brought to the House of
Assembly.
I ask the minister:
Will this opportunity to address
Cabinet still be afforded to Ms Neville, and if so,
when; or would an independent review be more
appropriate, as then there would be no denial of natural
justice to Ms Neville?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. T. MARSHALL:
Mr. Speaker, as he indicated earlier,
government’s intentions with respect to Ms Neville will
be dealt with in a resolution or in a matter that will
be brought before the House of Assembly prior to the end
of the session.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Port de Grave.
MR. BUTLER:
Mr. Speaker, the deadline for
government’s oil tank registration program was reached
in July, 2009. It became illegal for homeowners to
operate unregistered tanks. Within weeks of the deadline
passing, government realized it would have no choice but
to create an emergency program to assist some 5,000
low-income homeowners who are not in compliance as well
as establish new deadlines for oil tank registrations,
more so for the people along the Coast of Labrador
communities due to human resource difficulties.
I ask the minister:
Why were these income, geographic
and human resource obstacles not identified by your
department prior to the approach of the deadline?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I would just like to
clarify one point by the Opposition member. The deadline
is May of 2010, provided you have an appointment to get
your oil tank updated. That is for everybody in the
Province.
Thank you.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Port de Grave.
MR. BUTLER:
Mr. Speaker, this government has
spent millions of dollars developing poverty reduction
strategies and Northern strategic plans to ensure
cross-departmental awareness.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. BUTLER:
Mr. Speaker, I ask for your
protection because I might read the same question twice.
I am known to do that before.
However, Mr. Speaker, the way in
which this oil tank registration program was rolled out
this summer shows to me that these documents look better
in theory than in practice.
I ask the Minister of Finance:
Can you confirm that this program
ran out of money to meet the high demand for the $300
oil tank replacement assistance subsidy for residents as
early as October, and how many people are still owed
money through the Department of Finance?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. T. MARSHALL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I will be happy to seek the
information, as the hon. member has asked, and give him
an answer tomorrow.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, it has been two years
since the Premier said that his government would develop
anti-scab legislation. Mr. Speaker, the governments of
B.C. and Quebec already have anti-scab legislation in
place and if the Premier really wanted anti-scab
legislation, then we could have it too. Mr. Speaker, if
the government really cares about the benefits to the
people of the Province from resource development, then
they should also care about benefits to the workers who
are the backbone of that development, such as the
workers at the Voisey’s Bay nickel mine.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the Premier:
When will his government bring forth anti-scab
legislation?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Human
Resources, Labour and Employment.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS SULLIVAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
To be clear, it has been two years
since we have agreed to do that review and we have been
actively engaged in that review.
I would like to remind the member
opposite that there are three parties engaged in that
review: it is business, it is labour and it is
government. We are very concerned about modernizing our
labour legislation; there is no question about that. I
believe that all three parties are concerned about that.
I am assuming that you have asked that question to
labour and that you have asked that question to business
as well because this is a tripartite committee and we
are all working on that process. I would be happy to
bring forward any amendments, any legislation once that
review is completed and once they offer up those
amendments to us.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Mr. Speaker, the striking workers at
Voisey’s Bay are entering their fifth month on the
picket line. Vale Inco is using scab labour which puts a
great deal of stress on the situation and on other
workers on the site. Such action by the employer has the
potential to create an unsafe work environment. For two
years the government has been giving the answer that the
minister just gave.
I am asking, Mr. Speaker, if the
minister will recognize the urgency of tabling
anti-replacement worker legislation or is she happy with
the current situation Newfoundland and Labrador workers
are facing in Voisey’s Bay?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Human
Resources, Labour and Employment.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS SULLIVAN:
Again, as a point of clarification,
Mr. Speaker. Bringing in anti-scab or anti-worker
replacement legislation is not going to solve the strike
at Voisey’s Bay. There are many issues at the heart of
that particular problem and my Labour Relations Agency
is at the ready. We are willing to sit down at any time
to try to find a successful resolution to the problem at
Voisey’s Bay. Many, many issues at stake there;
conciliation people ready to go, we simply need the
opportunity to sit down with them.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
My concern is not just for this
strike but for other strikes that have happened in the
past and strikes that might come. We have had, Mr.
Speaker, at least three strikes in particular in
Labrador where scab workers have been brought in and we
have had others here in the Province, one in St. John’s
in particular that ended in April, 2008 after eight
months of workers being on strike.
My question for the minister is -
I will answer her first, yes, I have spoken to other
groups. I would like to know the details of how
anti-scab legislation is being dealt with within the
current review of the labour regulations?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Human
Resources, Labour and Employment.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS SULLIVAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, there is very little
consensus, actually, about the success relationship
between banning anti-replacement workers and successful
resolution of strikes. There is very little consensus on
that.
I should point out that there are
only two jurisdictions, Mr. Speaker, two jurisdictions
in North America that have anti-scab legislation. So,
the jury is not out on that. I think it is very clear
that that is not an option at this particular point in
time, but in terms of the details, all three parties are
working. When they bring something forward to me I will
be more than happy to share that with you.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The time allotted for questions
and answers has expired.