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December 16, 2009

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MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, on Monday I asked the Minister of Natural Resources to table the section of the Hebron Benefits Agreement which guarantees that the recently cancelled work originally scheduled to be done in this Province would have to be replaced.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister today, if she is prepared to provide us with a copy of that commitment?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier and Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the Hebron Benefits Agreement is available to the Leader of the Opposition from the government Web site, as it is to every person in Newfoundland and Labrador and in the country. There are two sections in the benefits agreement that allow: (a) for amendments to the benefits agreements; or, a dispute resolution process. We did not need to use the dispute resolution process because the parties came to the table in a very amicable way to negotiate any lost benefits, to replace any lost benefits. That agreement in principle is now being translated into a legal document. Once I have that completed, Mr. Speaker, I will be glad to make that available as well.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

We did review the benefits agreement that was on-line and we certainly did not see any clause in that agreement that would speak to the fact that if these contracts were cancelled then they would have to replace the value of it. So we will wait for the minister to give the full explanation as to how the amendment clause worked to meet that expectation.

Mr. Speaker, also under section 7.7 of the benefits agreement the Province has a right to disclose, at its discretion, commercially sensitive information as long as it does not compromise the partners. Surely, we feel that the value of the work and compensation provisions does not compromise the company’s interests.

I ask the minister today: Will you use your discretion and tell us the value of the work, and what the assessment value is of the work and who conducted that assessment?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, this is a project that is valued somewhere between $5 billion and $7 billion. The amount of money that we are talking about here in terms of replacement value that is required is less than one-half of 1 per cent of the total project.

Mr. Speaker, that assessment was done by the department, by Nalcor, and by the partners. So while I can tell you that the work is less than $50 million, substantially less than $50 million, I am not going to get any closer than that, Mr. Speaker, because tenders are being let. The people who are bidding on these projects know the value of the work and how it has changed. If we get much closer than that, they will be able to determine the value of the projects and that will affect the tendering process and we are not interested in doing that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Surely, in a $5 billion to $7 billion contract the minister states is under $50 million of work is not going to compromise any particular tender or the viability of the project by disclosing the information.

Mr. Speaker, this government likes to talk about no more giveaways. Well, right now what we see in this contract is that government is giving up all of the direct benefits from these contracts and they are giving them up for what; an unknown project and an unknown time without an unknown value.

I ask you minister: Are you letting this company walk away, or do you have no provisions to prevent them from cancelling these contracts and making sure the benefits stay in the Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, their ignorance of this project is staggering, and what is frightening about it is they put this out like they are speaking the truth.

Mr. Speaker, we have commitments on a concrete gravity-based structure, a mechanical outfitting, 4.1 million person hours of work; topsides drilling support module; topsides drilling derrick; flare boom; helideck; lifeboat stations; structural steel riser components and assembly of offshore loading system components; riser bases; rigid risers; tie-in spools and buoys. We have 50,000 hours of GBS feed-phase engineering. We have detailed engineering. We have 1.2 million person hours of detailed engineering that have to be done here in the Province.

Mr. Speaker, the first time ever in a negotiation of an offshore project that these kinds of benefits have been negotiated and copper fastened to the benefit of the people of the Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

So the minister claims. If she figures the facts are not on the table, maybe it is time for her to start putting them on the table, starting with telling us where the clauses are in the agreement. Secondly, if they have to bring that kind of money back to the Province - sound familiar? If they have to bring that value of the work back to the Province, maybe you are about to tell us what project it is going in, when the project is going to happen, and what exactly are we talking about in terms of the value of that project? Because right now, minister, you have provided no facts and no answers.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Mr. Speaker, it does not matter what I provide to the Leader of the Opposition, she just does not get it; she does not understand it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Mr. Speaker, the parties came together, we did not even need to use mechanisms provided in the Hebron Benefits Agreement. We have an agreement in principle for the amount of work that is going to be displaced because of changes in the subsea template, Mr. Speaker. They will tell us how they are going to replace the value of that work by June 30, 2010. Otherwise, Mr. Speaker, they will provide us with a cheque for the equivalent amount, and certainly circumstances may have changed enough by the end of June 2010 when we can tell them exactly how much that is, then that will be used for a construction project in the oil and gas industry providing jobs to Newfoundlanders and Labradorians.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The minister also knows when you allow them to cancel, walk away from a contract that a cheque does not cut it for all the spinoff effects that are lost in the economy in this Province.

Mr. Speaker, despite the provincial director of Child, Youth and Family Services having responsibility for establishing province-wide policies and standards under the act, no such policies or standards exist for the establishing and monitoring of alternate living arrangements in the Province. Back in May we raised this issue of implementing a province-wide regulation for children taken into government care. At that time the minister acknowledged that there was a need for a broad legislative review and that any new legislation that was needed would be forthcoming.

I ask her today: Where is your department in this legislative review and have you made any decisions with regard to implementing province-wide standards for alternate living arrangements for children?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Child, Youth and Family Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would certainly like to inform the hon. member that the legislative review is well underway. We do have a lawyer working in the department who is meeting with stakeholder groups and we will certainly be meeting with as many groups or individuals who would like to provide input into that process.

We anticipate that in the spring we would be able to bring forth new legislation for Child, Youth and Family Services. I also say, Mr. Speaker, I will not be bringing forward legislation until I am satisfied that we are ready to do that and we have the thorough research done so that we have the best possible legislation we can have in this Province.

With regard to a provincial policy on the ALAs, the assisted living arrangements, Mr. Speaker, that is not a form of care that we feel is appropriate for the children in Newfoundland and Labrador. We have ALAs right now in the absence of appropriate foster homes in the Province. Mr. Speaker, we also want to make sure that we develop a continuum of services that provides the necessary care for the children of this Province. Certainly, foster homes, or living with other family members who are identified as suitable to care for the child or –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

While the minister feels that it might not be the most appropriate standard of care, it is the standard that is being provided in the Province right now, and it is not regulated.

I ask the minister this question: A Certificate of Conduct is one of the things that is supposed to be required by ALA workers in order to work with these children that are in care. We have learned that many of these workers start on the job without ever having a Certificate of Conduct. I ask you, Minister, is this acceptable, and why is it being tolerated?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Child, Youth and Family Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, that was a similar question that was brought forward in the last spring sitting of the House of Assembly. At that time, I went back to the department to ask the question if certificates of conduct were received on people before they worked in the ALAs because of the accusations that were being made. When we checked with the regional health authorities, that is indeed their policy, and they have also indicated that they have these certificates of conduct before people work in the ALAs.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would let the minister know that there is only health board that we have determined in the Province that requires it for day one, and the other health boards do require it, but not before the person starts at the employment stage.

Mr. Speaker, many of the children who are placed in ALAs do so with histories of neglect, emotional abuse and family violence. These are very serious issues that need to be addressed in a proper manner by qualified caregivers.

I ask the minister: Is consideration being given today by government to provide for minimum employment qualifications for ALA workers in this Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Child, Youth and Family Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, the stark reality as to why we need ALAs is because we not have a sufficient number of foster homes in Newfoundland and Labrador. We feel, as a department, that it is our duty to make sure that we do the appropriate marketing and recruitment and provide the necessary support so that we can have the appropriate foster homes in this Province.

Mr. Speaker, many of the children – and I think there are probably about thirty-five at any given time that may be in ALAs. Many times they are short-term, because these children need to be placed in foster homes, and an ALA is not seen as a long-term, viable plan, especially for young children, as a means that we feel would be the most appropriate way to care for their needs.

Mr. Speaker, we certainly need to have more foster homes in this Province, and that is certainly going to be one of the priorities of the new department.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Children being entrusted into government care in this Province face a system with many deficiencies, one of which has a shortage of social workers and caregivers in the in-care system. The shortage is resulting in high incidence of turnover in caregivers and social workers that are being assigned to these children. In fact, the Office of the Child and Youth Advocate did a review of the in-care system files in 2006 and in some cases found that as many sixteen different social workers were assigned to a file.

I ask the minister today, this came to your attention in the last year and I ask you: Have your government or your department done anything to try and provide for more stability in the in-care system in the Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Child, Youth and Family Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, the Department of Child, Youth and Family Services came into being because this government recognized that there were problems in the area of Child, Youth and Family Services. We were not comfortable, despite our investment of $25 million in recent years into this program area, that we were getting the results that were necessary.

Mr. Speaker, in the last couple of years, and with our $25 million investment, there have been 200 additional positions in Child, Youth and Family Services.

During the summer, Mr. Speaker, as the new minister of this new department, I took it upon myself to visit fifty offices across Newfoundland and Labrador and to meet with the social workers, so that just was not a paper exercise to determine what the issues were.

Mr. Speaker, I met with the social workers everywhere from the North Coast up to Nain, down to Burgeo and to St. John’s. It is certainly, I guess at one point, very reassuring to know that we have professionals who have a true passion for the work they do and are providing some very good quality work. Mr. Speaker -

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. minister to conclude her response.

MS BURKE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The social workers highlighted concerns in many areas, not just in-care. They talked about the IT system that they used, they talked about having to do duties that are not necessarily social work related and is, in fact, not even having access to –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, yesterday I asked the Minister of Health to enhance the air ambulance services in the Province. At that time, Mr. Speaker, he suggested he would be willing to cut services or relocate services out of St. Anthony which was a shameful response, I say, for the Minister of Health who should be investing in services and not cutting it.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister today, because I thought he might have learned a lesson when it came to gutting rural health care in the Province. I ask him today, Mr. Speaker: Will you clearly state today that the air ambulance services in St. Anthony will not be removed?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am not sure what it is that the Opposition Leader is looking for. Yesterday, she presented a petition asking to support and strengthen the provincial air ambulance program based in St. John’s and St. Anthony. That was based, Mr. Speaker, supposedly on a petition from the people of Labrador, which when you read the prayer of the petition from the people of Labrador asking to establish a medevac response team and aircraft in Labrador, that there is an overwhelming need for a medevac in Labrador.

Yesterday, she was asking to have it in Labrador. Today she is asking to have it kept in St. Anthony. Mr. Speaker, we have two aircraft. The numbers indicate that there are 240 airlifts a year out of Happy Valley-Goose Bay and Lab West. That is twice as many as there are in St. Anthony. What I say to the Opposition Leader is what I said yesterday: Do you want it in Labrador? Do you want it in St. Anthony? Perhaps you could help me with this.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The minister knows what we want. We want an adequate air ambulance service for all the people of the Province.

Mr. Speaker, this government has the money and the resources to invest in a third air ambulance in this Province to be based in Labrador. Mr. Speaker, they are the same government who have invested more than $30 million into the oil exploration industry but is refusing to spend $8 million to buy an aircraft for air medevac in Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS JONES: I ask you minister: Are you prepared to commit to the purchase of a third air ambulance for this Province and base it in Goose Bay?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Yes, Mr. Speaker, if we are going to invest in another airplane it has to be to replace the one that is currently stationed in St. John’s, as the hon. member pointed out yesterday.

Now, Mr. Speaker, if I could just point out to the member opposite. She is asking for a third aircraft: one in St. Anthony, one in Labrador, and one in St. John’s. Well, there are more flights out of Deer Lake each year than there are out of St. Anthony. So, what I say to you, I say to the Leader of the Opposition: Where do you want this plane? The Mayor of Happy Valley-Goose Bay was on Open Line today. The question was put to him, Mr. Speaker, should it be in St. Anthony or should it be in Goose Bay? He said it should be in Happy Valley-Goose Bay.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yesterday, as well, we asked the minister if he would commit to instating a trauma team in St. Anthony to support the air ambulance services that are there, we did not get a response from him. Maybe today he would like to tell us if he is prepared to do that?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yesterday, Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the Opposition presented a 3,000 name petition asking to have a medevac team in Labrador. Now, Mr. Speaker, if we are looking at a medical flight services team, it would go with the aircraft. So what is happening here now, is obviously, the Opposition Leader does not know what she is talking about. She has not done her homework. Mr. Speaker, I spoke yesterday –

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

Order, please!

The Chair is having great difficulty in hearing the hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

MR. KENNEDY: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I met with the town councils of Lab City and Wabush, they asked to have an air ambulance situated in Lab West. I met with the family affected in Lab West. I met in Happy Valley-Goose Bay with the family there, and with the council, they asked to have it put in Happy Valley-Goose Bay. The numbers, Mr. Speaker, indicate that there are twice as many medevacs out of Labrador as there are out of St. Anthony, and there are more out of Deer Lake than there are out of St. Anthony. So, again, I am asking the Leader of the Opposition to help me out here -

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. KENNEDY: - yesterday she asked for Labrador, today she is asking for St. Anthony. Which is it?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, one of the truest indicators of the economic struggles experienced by Newfoundlanders and Labradorians is their use of food banks. Food Banks Canada recently released a study entitled HungerCount 2009, and the results for this Province were alarming. Over the past year Newfoundland and Labrador has seen an increase of 10.1 per cent in food bank usage. Those are people who rely on food banks on a regular basis. This is clear evidence that poverty is increasing in this Province, Mr. Speaker.

I ask the minister: Since the recent poverty reduction progress report does not address this issue specifically, what immediate action does government intend to take to alleviate this problem?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Human Resources, Labour and Employment.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I cannot believe that I just heard that there are no indicators that poverty in this Province has been reduced. We produced a report and laid it on desks yesterday that would have shown you that the most common measure of poverty in this country is LICOs, Low Income Cut-offs. We have shown a decrease, Mr. Speaker, from 12.2 per cent down to 6.5 per cent.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Mr. Speaker, in terms of income levels in this Province we have shown a huge increase, in particular for income support clients, where we have seen an increase of 11.6 per cent.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS SULLIVAN: Where we have seen an increase of 11.6 per cent for our income support clients, Mr. Speaker. In terms of the minimum wage, 50 per cent better than it was just two to three years ago.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. minister to conclude her response.

MS SULLIVAN: Mr. Speaker, I will conclude my response by saying there are huge indications that we are on the right road, and I hope I get another question because there are a number of things I could answer here.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask members for their co-operation. In order for members to be recognized here in this Chamber they must stand and be recognized by the Speaker. Members on both sides of the House cannot sit in their chairs and shout obstructions back and forth across the House and drown out questions that are being asked and answers that are being given.

The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

I say, Mr. Speaker, as good as her report was that she released this week, the numbers do not add up. The report shows nothing about the long lineups that are going to our food banks. Mr. Speaker, not only has the number of individuals seeking aid from food banks increased, but Newfoundland and Labrador is a Province with the highest percentage of food bank use per capita in Canada. Happy Valley-Goose Bay alone, and this is in rural Newfoundland by the way, has seen a 20 per cent increase in food bank usage this year which is higher than the national average. Six percent of our population regularly attend at least one of the Province’s twenty-eight food banks and there are food banks in our Province that do not have enough food in storage to meet the increasing demands.

I ask the minister: Will government commit to granting funds to food banks this Christmas to support those families who are in need?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Human Resources, Labour and Employment.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we would be the first to acknowledge that we appreciate the work that is being done by food banks in this Province. Let’s not make any mistake about that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Mr. Speaker, we have worked long and we have work hard at putting money back into the pockets of Newfoundlanders and Labradorians and improving their lot, and the statistics show that. In terms of what we are doing though in order to supplement some of the issues around food banks, just let me give you some of those indicators. The Kids Eat Smart Program, increased to $1.25 million through the Poverty Reduction program. The Mother Baby Nutritional Supplement increased as well to $60 a month. There are a myriad of other initiatives as well: Healthy Baby Clubs, the Air Foodlift Subsidy to Labrador, Newfoundland and Labrador’s School Milk Program, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: There are a number of ways that we are assisting.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, I have to say that I totally agree with the Kids Eat Smart Program. I am invited to my district on December 22, to officially help open the two hundredth club in this Province. That to me says there are many hungry kids in this Province. If the money is going into the people’s pockets, it is sure not going to buy groceries, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, about 50 per cent of the food bank uses in Canada are families of one or more children who are in the low income bracket. Food Banks Canada has approached the federal government with recommendations on addressing this very important issue. Specifically with regard to increasing the Canada Child Tax Benefit from $3,300 to $5,000.

Mr. Speaker –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. member to pose his question.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Since the federal government, the territorial and the provincial ministers are meeting in Whitehorse, I ask the minister: Can he confirm that this issue is on the agenda and will he consider bringing this important issue to the attention of those in attendance at the finance meeting?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, my questions today are for the Minister of Municipal Affairs. Mr. Speaker, the vast majority of residents living in rural Newfoundland and Labrador have no 911 emergency services and tourists that visit our rural areas cannot expect to dial 911 in case of an emergency and get a response.

Mr. Speaker, during an Estimates committee in April of this year –

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS MICHAEL: Mr. Speaker, during an Estimates committee in April of this year, I was told to expect that the government would be moving on the Expressions of Interest received regarding an enhanced 911 system within sixty days. Mr. Speaker, it has been around 250 days since that statement was made.

Mr. Speaker, I ask: If the minister, nearly a year after the last press release from Municipal Affairs, is able to provide us with an update on this matter?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, the 911 system throughout Newfoundland and Labrador is indeed a tremendous challenge given the geography of the Province, given the technology that is available throughout the Province. This government is committed to looking forward to somehow or another tying it all together.

As for an update with regard to the specific question, I would have to refer that back to the department and provide you with that at some later date.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

In light of the fact that tomorrow could be our last time in the House for this sitting, it would be great if the minister could be able to table something tomorrow. As I said, it has been 250 days since I was told that they would have something in place within sixty days with regard to the Expression of Interests. So I hope that the minister can get something quickly.

Maybe I have a few more questions that he will have to get information on as well, but I will proceed with them. I am very concerned that we have not heard anything since last April, and rightly so, it is a very serious issue, but I am concerned that virtually the only time government talks about this issue is when they are asked questions in the House.

How this government expects the people of rural Newfoundland to take their commitment seriously while keeping them in the dark –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. member to pose her question.

MS MICHAEL: I will, Mr. Speaker.

I would like the minister to find out, when he speaks to the people inside of Municipal Affairs: What is the delay in getting the plan in place for the 911 enhancement?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, again, in response to the question, I indicated that I would provide an update, and I did not see anything in the second question that would go beyond that. Right now, I am just saying that there is challenge out there. We are aware of that challenge and we are working towards coming up with some strategies to deal with it.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Mr. Speaker, I just want to add, so that the minister knows the detail I am looking for, I would like to know if anything right now is being talked about with regard to having street names and numeration done in rural Newfoundland since that is such an important step. I would like him to have that information as well when he comes to the House with the information.

I understand that large projects take time. We have been waiting on this, and the people in the Province have been waiting on this for a long time as well. People in emergency services continue to call me and make comments to me about the fact that they do not know what is going on. This deals with life and death in our Province, so I ask the minister to also be able to find out for us –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. member to pose her question now.

MS MICHAEL: I am asking my question. I am, Mr. Speaker.

I would also like to know: When will the residents of rural Newfoundland and Labrador be able to know exactly when emergency services -

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, public safety is foremost on the minds of any official, any government, as this government is committed to public safety on the roads or for emergency services. Again, we work closely with the municipalities to ensure that we are doing everything to clearly outline where roads are.

It was just the other day that I passed amendments in this House that give the municipalities the go ahead to insist that numbers be placed on the buildings and houses throughout Newfoundland and Labrador. So we are working toward that. Again, I will try, as best I can, to the hon. Member to fill in some of those details for you when I report back to the House.

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The time allotted for questions and answers has expired.

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