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Oral Questions
May 5, 2009

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MS JONES:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the Fish Price Setting Panel has agreed to reduce the price of crab from $1.55 to $1.40, a move that neither the Seafood Producers nor the FFAW are happy with. As a matter of fact, we have learned just prior to coming to the House of Assembly that as of 6:00 o’clock this evening the processors in the Province will no longer buy crab and will not issue any bait or ice to fishing enterprises.

I ask the minister to confirm that there is a scheduled shutdown for today at 6:00 p.m., and I ask him what action his department is taking to try and sort out the pricing issues that exist in the crab industry right now.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, I guess my information tells me that the processors are going back to the panel, the Price Setting Panel, with a request; and, of course, it would be inappropriate for me to make any comment on that until the panel makes a decision as to where they are going with regard to that request.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is our understanding that the processors in the Province have already made a decision, and that decision will be communicated this afternoon, that the crab industry will be shut down as of 6:00 o’clock today in Newfoundland and Labrador.

I ask the minister: If they are going back to the table, what involvement do you and your department have at that table to find a more favourable pricing solution for this industry so that it can continue?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, from the aspect of my department, our responsibility is to provide the intelligence, the research that is necessary for the panel to make the decisions with regard to any requests that come in from the processing side or the harvesting side. So, we will continue to support the panel in their quest to make sure that they have the proper information, the up-to-date information that is required in order for them to carry out their decisions.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, the panel that sets prices for the industry in this Province have been delaying a decision on crab prices for some time now.

I ask the minister if he is satisfied with the work that they have been doing, and if there is some kind of a structural change that is required when it comes to setting prices for fish in this Province.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Human Resources, Labour and Employment.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Given the very uncertain and unstable conditions in the market, I really do not think that the panel took an unreasonable period of time to make this particular decision. In fact, I have every confidence in the ability of that particular panel to set those prices and to see to it that collective bargaining in this particular industry is alive and well.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Last week in the House of Assembly we asked the minister, were there any contingency plans in place should the industry face a shutdown? The minister stated that government was looking at options and he was not going to leave anyone high and dry.

I ask the minister today: Now that it appears this industry will be shut down as of this evening, can you advise the House what actions your government will take to ensure that the hundreds of fish plant workers out there in the Province will not be left high and dry?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, again about a shutdown and that sort of thing, that can be pretty dangerous talk; because, again, we are on the floor of the House of Assembly and the Leader of the Opposition is talking about a shutdown when in actual fact the panel has not been engaged, no decision has been made.

I would say to the Leader of the Opposition, that as a government we are responsive to the needs of industry, and in this particular case the fishing industry, but we are not one to just move without really looking at the situation. We are monitoring this very, very closely. As I pointed out the other day, we will do everything in our power to make sure that the season continues, that if there are any contingencies that need to put in place that we will deal with them as they arise.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, but I want to clarify it for the minister.

It is our information that it is the processing sector that is shutting down the crab industry in the Province today, not the panel.

I ask the minister, if he has information that is any different than that which was provided to me, can he do so in the House at this time?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, again, I am just reiterating that the processing sector has not given any public notice that they are indeed doing whatever they are supposed to be doing and I would just say that I am not going to engage in any type of fear mongering at this particular time. We will take whatever comes our way but I would let it unfold rather than try to be predictive of what might happen and if it happens, what will this do and all that do. I think it is incumbent on both sides of the House to be a little bit more reserved in what we say on the floor of this House so that we do not make these uncertain times any more uncertain.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is obvious that the minister is not in the loop and I would say he is not in the loop on this next issue as well.

Mr. Speaker earlier today the European Union voted to support a ban on the import of seal products by a vote of 550 to 49. This is in stark contrast with the minister’s comments from yesterday that he hoped he had sown enough seeds of doubt in the minds of the European Union representatives to actually vote down the resolution or have it delayed. It is obvious, Mr. Speaker, once again, that they have misread and misjudged this issue.

I ask the minister: If this issue was such a priority, why were you or representatives of your government or your department not in Europe yesterday attending these meetings and making a lobby effort on behalf of the fishing industry in this Province?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please.

The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, I have to shake my head. I have to shake my head. Less than a minute ago I had the Leader of the Opposition on her feet talking about a crisis that was looming in it, right? And you are asking me not to be present in this Province at this time, when perhaps the crab season is gone? I say to you, be responsible!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Lame excuse, I say to you, minister. Lame excuse for not doing your job!

Mr. Speaker, the minister promised an extensive advertising campaign and even left the impression that his meetings in Ottawa with the EU Ambassadors could help reverse the EU vote. That certainly did not happen.

I ask the minister today: What analysis has your department conducted to determine what the economic impact of this ban will be on sealers and the sealing industry in our Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, when it comes to the seal harvest, I think of the 6,000 sealers out there today, who are reflecting upon where they are going to go. I think we all in this House should reflect.

We passed a motion here not too long ago, and we had one speaker up from the other side. Obviously, that speaker got up and, again, indicated how important it was for us to support our sealers, the seal hunt, the harvest, and not to give any ground to the European parliamentarians who are over there judging us morally and telling us how we should manage our fisheries.

We, as the government – and I suspect even governments before us have stood their ground. I say, and I say to the House Leader –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the hon. minister to conclude his remarks.

MR. HEDDERSON: – you are mumbling there or something. Get on your feet and talk about it then. Get on your feet! You get on your feet, and I will defend, I will defend! Get on your feet!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is only a few weeks ago that this government was going to go it alone on the EU issue. They were going to take on the European Union themselves. They were not even going to involve the federal government because they did not believe that they could support their cause. What do we see today? Complete failure on the issue to even convince, convince people at that table to delay this decision.

Mr. Speaker, the minister has mentioned that this ban could be challenged through the World Trade Organization.

I ask the minister today: Will this issue be taken to the World Trade Organization, and if so, what strategy has been developed to launch such a challenge?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, let me pick up where I left off when I got on my feet the last time.

Again, I say to the Leader of the Opposition, this government has taken a stand when it comes to European parliamentarians and where they want to go, and that stand is very important for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. We have been trying, as best we can, to work with our federal counterparts. We have tried. They have refused to share strategies with us. We have tried logic and reason. We tried to shuttle diplomacy, but to get up and say we have not been successful is to undermine the efforts not only of myself, not only of our government, not only of our Premier, but our sealers as well, and if you are going to play those political games and try to get me up on my feet, that is cheap. We want to make sure, Mr. Speaker, that the people of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador know where we –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I do not know what the minister calls unsuccessful but a ban is complete failure and demise for this industry in this Province and he knows it and so do his colleagues.

I ask him today - he says that there was no co-operation from the federal government. I ask him today: What meetings occurred between your government or your Premier and the Prime Minister of the country to ensure that there was an understanding and to engage their support on this issue? We are only aware of meetings that took place with ambassadors from other countries that obviously did not prove to be very fruitful at the end of the day.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. HEDDERSON: Mr. Speaker, anyone that is following the seal harvest fully expected a vote as the vote went today. That is not where our efforts were. For us to try to undo that image that is out there, it is an impossibility, let me tell you, and to try to convince these special interest groups to change course is a waste of energy, but where we did direct it was towards our federal government and also through the Parliament, the Cabinet ministers that represent the council over there and the commission.

I say to you, and I say too, again, we have now asked our Prime Minister, who I would say – he is in Prague tomorrow, if he is there today - is certainly an embarrassed Prime Minister in light of what has happened. We are asking them, we are asking the federal government to immediately, what we have been asking for a number a years, take the WTO action, put this on the table for our trade talks and make –

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I hope that the minister has called the Prime Minister and made that request and he is not just making it here on the floor of the House as a grandstanding piece to this entire issue.

Mr. Speaker, yesterday the Premier and the Minister of Finance used the time frame of four weeks to describe the length of a nurses’ strike should it happen in the coming weeks.

I ask the Premier: Is this the official time frame that government is working with in contingency plans or is it just an ad hoc figure that you put forward yesterday?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: Mr. Speaker, the time frame that the government is working on is zero. We hope there is no strike. We hope that the nurses do not vote to strike, and that is our preference. If they decide to strike - what we were doing yesterday was basically laying out the math for them - for every week that they are out they lose 2 per cent. If they are out for a month they basically lose 8 per cent, and that was the analogy which I drew. The 8 per cent which was offered in the template was a very generous offer which went to all our public service employees to enable them to catch up; it would be technically lost if the nurses are out for a month. That is the math on it, quite simply.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Premier and the Minister of Finance stated in media scrums earlier that nurses would be legislated back to work and a contract imposed.

My question today is: If government was to impose such a contract, will the agreed-upon negotiated clauses that have already been settled by both government and the nurses be maintained in that contract?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: Mr. Speaker, we will allow the strike, if it happens, to take its course. If it is for two days or two weeks or two months, it will go on as long as it goes on. Our primary concern during a strike will be patient safety. That is what will govern us, and that is how we will decide. So if, in fact, the nurses are out for an extended period of time and it even goes for more than a month, and the safety of patients happens to be jeopardized, then we would be forced, under the circumstances, to legislate the nurses back.

As to what the content of that would be, we have not even contemplated. It would certainly be a last resort for us, but that resort could be based on the fact that we have no other choice to protect the safety of patients; however, it certainly is my understanding from the Minister of Health that there is a very elaborate plan that has been put in place in order to ensure the safety of patients. The nurses, of course, essential services have been provided for through the nurses. We will also be looking at the possibility of actually flying patients out of the Province if there are any emergency situations that arise that cannot be handled with the volume that happens to here at the particular point in time.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I guess we want to know for the record, because government has already indicated that legislating nurses back to work is a high possibility in the middle of a strike, and I guess we want to have some insurance that if there is a settlement that would be imposed that it would be a settlement that reflects the currently negotiated and agreed-upon clauses that exist in the contract today.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: Mr. Speaker, the process of legislating anyone back is a process that is brought before this hon. Legislature; it is a democratic process. Debate will ensue, a proposal will be put forward, and then we will engage in debate. As a result of that debate we will see where that ends up and we will see exactly what the terms of that legislative proposal will be.

Like I said, that is a last resort. We have not even gone there. The minister and I have not even discussed it. The Minister of Health and I have not discussed it. Our preference is that there be no strike, but our priority is the safety of patients and that is what will govern us in this particular circumstance.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Recently, Shirley Ryan’s story was featured in The Telegram. She was an injured worker four-and-a-half years ago, and she has had a number of difficulties in dealing with the workers’ compensation commission. In fact, after having a gruelling leg amputation, she was forced to crawl back up her steps to gain entry into her house simply because the commission had failed to provide her with the proper form of assistance.

I ask the minister today: What is being done in order to assist injured individuals in this Province who are dependent upon workers’ compensation and require special services and programs to accommodate their injuries?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister Responsible for the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Of course, for privacy reasons, I am sure members opposite know that I am not going to make any reference to any specific case or any particular injured worker; however, what I can ensure all members of this House, and all injured workers in this Province, is that the Workplace Health, Safety and Compensation Commission will work tirelessly with every single injured worker in this Province to ensure that they do get all of the benefits that they are due and that they are entitled to.

In addition to that, I would like to point out that we now have opened a new client service office. That client service office is put in place specifically to deal with such issues, and we are very concerned and very well aware of the fact that injured workers in this Province deserve all of their entitlements. That office will see to it that those entitlements are put in place.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Many injured workers in the Province have had to wait in order to appeal decisions that have been made by the Workplace Health, Safety and Compensation Commission. Typically, I think the injured worker must wait until they receive a written document stating the reasons for the disapproval of their claim. The minister should know that while the commission is processing these claims and making those decisions these workers are suffering.

I ask her today: What is being done in order to speed up the processing of claims and to assist claimants during the waiting period?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister Responsible for the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Again, I refer to the client service office that has recently been opened in March 2008. Through that, we are ensuring very timely adjudication of all cases that come before the commission. In fact, we are committed to responding to any phone calls that come our way within twenty-four hours. We respond to any other correspondence within ten days, ten business days. In addition to that, we have been conducting both internal and external reviews of our processes.

While we recognize that there are times when we need to pay attention to certain issues, we are also very cognizant of the fact that we have a very dedicated staff, a very professional staff, who do pay attention to all of those issues and who are acting in the best interests of injured workers in this Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I think, Minister, you should also realize that there are a lot of injured workers out there who feel that they are not getting those return phone calls from the Workplace Health, Safety and Compensation Commission. There are many of them who feel that the case managers that are assigned to their cases do not understand the extremity of their injury and the circumstances that they live with. Mr. Speaker, it seems for many of them that cases are about delay and denial within this system.

I ask the minister: Why are these vulnerable members of society being left with nothing but frustration from the very agency that has been set up to provide them with service at a time when they need it the most?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister Responsible for the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Mr. Speaker, a recent study that was conducted, an independent study, in fact, conducted by WHSCC is showing some very different statistics than what the members opposite are reporting here. In fact, we are showing statistics that indicate to us that out clientele are very pleased with the level of service that is being offered to them.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS SULLIVAN: There are circumstances, Mr. Speaker, where investigations may take a little longer. There are processes that have to be followed, there are procedures that have to be followed, but overall survey results are telling us that there are huge improvements in the services offered and that our clientele are very satisfied with those services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I think the minister needs to go talk to some more of her clientele because the way it is right now, injured workers who need to have their homes assessed and renovations done take nearly two years before the contractor will actually show up to do the work, simply because of the paperwork, because of the process that is in place within the commission.

I ask the minister today: What is going to be done to speed up this process to ensure that injured workers, like in the case of Shirley Ryan, are not being discharged after critical surgical procedures and not being able to access their home or have any mobility within their home?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister Responsible for the Status of Persons with Disabilities.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS SULLIVAN: Mr. Speaker, home renovations, any modifications made to homes, whatever we are talking about in terms of repairs, have to be submitted to a particular process where there is an assessment done, first of all, by the medical team, in some cases by an occupational therapist, and my information is not showing anything in the area of two years for this. There is a particular process. Medical providers are involved in this particular process. Consultations are had between the client and the medical providers.

However, there are times, Mr. Speaker, when there are extenuating circumstances. For example, whether or not the person owns the home or is renting the home, whether we can get permission from the owner of the home to do those particular modifications. It is not as simple as simply walking up to the house and saying: yes, this is what we are going to do here today. There is a process, Mr. Speaker. It is followed. It is not a two-year process.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I just have the one question for the Minister of Justice.

Minister, yesterday again we heard complaints involving the RNC and their treatment of a mentally delayed teenager, and I am well aware that the RNC did in fact have a press conference just before the House opened today to explain what happened in that particular case and of course the most misunderstood and avoidable situations, usually, often involve those suffering from mental, emotional or neurological disabilities.

I ask the minister: In view of what has happened in the last two weeks involving these teenagers, do you feel that the current offerings with respect to training for the RNC is indeed adequate?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and the Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

To answer the hon. member’s question, the answer is yes, I do. There has been more money put into training for police officers. All of our police officers take - all of our new recruits take the Changing Minds program that is offered by the Canadian Medical Association. They are about to receive training in autism. Also, our correctional officers have received the Changing Minds programming as well.

I am aware of the incident or aware of the story that appeared in the media today about what happened yesterday but I think it is early to come to a conclusion. I understand the police are investigating and the Chief of Police will make a statement and we will wait – it will be more appropriate to make a statement after we get more of the facts.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, when the environmental assessment for District 17-18 was released, the Department of Natural Resources was told to halt activities in the old growth thickets area until a public consultation took place with recommendations from the Minister of Environment. We know that a logging road was built through this forest but no public consultations occurred.

I ask the Minister of Natural Resources: Are officials in your department turning a blind eye to the directives from the Department of Environment?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister for Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that that work has been put on hold, but I will endeavour to find out and report back to the hon. member the details.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: I thank the minister for that.

Mr. Speaker, when the environmental assessment for District 17-18 – I am sorry, that is the same one.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. BUTLER: I hope, Mr. Speaker, you do not take my time away.

Mr. Speaker, in wake of the shutdown of the Grand Falls-Windsor mill, government recently called for expressions of interest for the development of Central Newfoundland timber resources, yet section 13.(4) requires government to complete a comprehensive consultation process with all forestry stakeholders before even beginning to consider offering new licences for this fibre.

I ask the minister: Will this consultation process take place before any changes take place?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

MR. SKINNER: Mr. Speaker, the Request for Proposals that the hon. member refers to, we have a deadline date of May 22 for submission of those proposals. We will wait to see what comes in. Obviously, anything that we are required by our own regulations to do, we will follow. We will ensure to do that. Understanding, Mr. Speaker, that we are in extraordinary times.

Obviously, the closure of the mill in Central Newfoundland and Labrador is an extraordinary act, and it requires that we be able to respond nimbly and quickly to the situation as it unfolds. Obviously, anything that we have to do, vis-à-vis our regulations, we will endeavour to do so, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, yesterday we heard of the terrible case of the woman who received incorrect medical treatment in Clarenville. Hers is, unfortunately, one in a series of continuing adverse events, such as inadequate maintenance of sensitive equipment and personal information being released inappropriately.

Mr. Speaker, in December 2008, the government accepted the report from the Task Force on Adverse Events. One of the recommendations of the task force is that regional health authorities amended their disclosure policies to conform to the Canadian Patient Safety Institute guidelines.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister of Health and Community Services, if whether or not all the regional health authorities have amended their disclosure policies to conform to the national guidelines?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: I understand that they have, Mr. Speaker.

I just want to speak to the incident that the member identifies before the House, and clearly, that is not an issue of an organization having in place protocols or procedures. What we are dealing with, as I understand it from Eastern Health, is this was an incident involving the performance of one individual who had not followed the appropriate protocols, had not followed the laid out procedures, and as a result of that there was an administration of medication error. So this speaks to the individual performance of an individual and not a systemic issue, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My question to the minister had to do with whether or not the authorities had the disclosure policies in place. I think the minister said that he thinks they have.

So now I ask him: Does he know if the disclosure policies were followed in the case of the Clarenville situation?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Again, Mr. Speaker, from my discussions with officials with Eastern Health, as soon as the incident was determined or found out what had happened there was an immediate contact with the patient, which is one of the first steps in that whole disclosure issue that the member opposite is questioning about. So I understand the patient disclosure and the direction around patient disclosure and the protocols around patient disclosure were followed in this particular case.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

According to the Task Force on Adverse Events on the national guidelines, patients who are harmed by an adverse event should be supported emotionally and physically. There are a number of supports that are mentioned. I will pick one in particular, timely access to further health care and treatment.

I ask the minister: Why was it that Ms Mojica-Fisher had to wait four days before medical treatment was offered to her?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: The member opposite is posing a question around the nature of the intervention that may have been provided by health practitioners in this particular case. I am not prepared to stand in the House and discuss an individual patient’s case. I am not prepared to discuss the kind of medical intervention or clinical intervention or other supports that might have been provided because through that process I would be disclosing the interaction and contact that this person has had with the health system and who that person may have seen. Mr. Speaker, I am not prepared to do that in a public way.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The time allotted for questions and answers have expired.

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