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Oral Questions
May 20, 2009

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MS JONES:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Before I start my questions today, Mr. Speaker, I certainly went to extend congratulations to the Province’s nurses and to the government.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS JONES: I congratulate both parties, Mr. Speaker, for reaching a tentative agreement and securing the health care services in the Province for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador.

Mr. Speaker, I have a couple of questions, just for clarification, around the contract negotiations.

We understand that there was a change in the language around the market adjustment clauses which helped facilitate this agreement, and I would like to ask what changes were made and if it is a differentiation from what has been contained in the agreements with the other unions.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

PREMIER WILLIAMS: Mr. Speaker, as the hon. member opposite knows we initiated a call last night to the union at around nine o’clock. I made a call to Ms Forward and she wasn’t available on her line, or at least I couldn’t make contact on her cell phone. We spoke with Mr. Vivian and indicated that we were prepared to talk about the two outstanding issues, the two principles we will call them. He was appreciative of the call. Myself and the Minister of Finance had met earlier and had met with our officials and instructed them to go and have a discussion. That went on throughout the entire night and we finally finished up at about five-thirty or a quarter to six this morning; a night’s work well spent.

At the end, the principle on the extended leave was dropped by the nurses and we reached what, I guess, would be considered a compromise position on market modifier. From government’s perspective, government does have the ability, when there are recruitment issues or recruitment problems within a certain area of the health care system, to provide a bonus in order to deal with that and in order to solve the recruitment problem.

That was a solution that is quite satisfactory to the nurses and quite satisfactory to us. It is a win, win. It wasn’t even a hold your nose situation, I think, for either party. I think it is a win not only for government and nurses – that is not really what it is all about - it is really a win for the people of the Province, the patients of the Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, and I certainly agree with that remark.

Mr. Speaker, the nurses’ union is recommending acceptance of this tentative agreement. So we certainly hope that there will be a deal in the future.

I ask the government today: When will the nurses see the improved wage benefits, and will this contract be retroactive, and if so, to what particular date?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Finance and President of Treasury Board.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KENNEDY: Yes, Mr. Speaker.

The deal will come into place, of course, once it is signed and the ratification. So I am not quite certain as to the length of time that will be required for the ratification vote. I do not expect it will be that long. At that point, it will also be retroactive to the point – and as for when the nurses’ contract ended -

AN HON. MEMBER: (Inaudible) was last year.

MR. KENNEDY: Yes, it was a long time ago, because we have been negotiating with them, I think, for fifteen or sixteen months. So back to April, I think. It could be April of last year, but it will be retroactive to that point.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The increased monetary offer that was designed to address the recruitment and retention issues will hopefully be able to allow us to recruit more nurses into the Province.

I ask the government today: How many nurses are we currently short in the system, and how does government plan to launch those recruitment initiatives outside of the Province in order to promote this new agreement?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Each of the four authorities have been aggressively pursuing their recruitment initiatives during this negotiation process. They were not, obviously, in a position to wait until successful conclusion, because they have had recruitment teams in place, attending job fairs and advertising in publications and journals throughout Canada, and some international recruitment, I say, Mr. Speaker, as well.

So this particular deal signed yesterday, or agreed upon this morning, will now make that job a lot easier. Now we are going to be competitive, not only on a national stage but we are going to be competitive on an international stage. We are hoping to be able to repatriate some nurses who would have left in the last couple of years. Now with this attractive offer, we are now one of the best in the country, I say, Mr. Speaker. So, clearly, this will be a great asset and will really enhance our ability to be successful in recruiting.

With respect to the first part of the question, I think there are some, roughly 300 permanent positions that are being recruited external to the organization now as we speak, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

We also know that in anticipation of a strike there were some contingency plans put in place by the health care corporation that also included cancelling some appointments and surgeries and so on.

I ask the minister today: If the health corporation has been able to provide an update as to when those surgeries and treatments can be rescheduled, and if those that were cancelled will be given a priority now to have their appointments rescheduled?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

As I indicated in the House in recent days, that the health authority in preparing for the, what was a potential strike today when they were served notice by the nurses’ union, started a process to gear down basically for what might be happening today. It is great news. Obviously, it did not. So now they are in a position to start rescheduling some of those cancelled appointments.

The first order of business was to ensure that those patients scheduled for today and tomorrow were notified of any cancellations that were necessary. So they will now start a process, each of the four authorities will now start a process of contacting those individuals to reschedule those appointments that were cancelled. The rescheduling piece, Mr. Speaker, as with all appointments like that, there is a prioritization that takes place based on acuity and illness. So they will be working with their clinicians to identify those that need to be rescheduled on a priority basis.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

In the last few weeks we have been asking the government in the House to provide interim compensation payments to AbitibiBowater workers pending the resolution of the legal action. Yesterday, they certainly agreed to do that and made that announcement, Mr. Speaker. No coincidence that it was in the middle of a polling period, I am sure, but nevertheless, it needed to be done, should have been done, and we are glad it was done, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, my questions today around that particular agreement are just for clarification and information. First of all, I ask the minister: Will all the people affected by the closure of the AbitibiBowater mill be compensated, including all the loggers?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Had I known it was the middle of a polling period I would have invited the hon. member out with us.

Mr. Speaker, the answer to the question is, yes.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I may have gone but I was rather busy yesterday morning.

Mr. Speaker, compensating the loggers under this particular agreement, does this mean - of course I would expect all unionized loggers, but are there non-unionized loggers and loggers with private companies as well included in any of these compensation packages?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Mr. Speaker, the loggers and silviculturists who worked with and for Abitibi are the ones that we have identified.

We are in the process of putting together a small committee representing some government people and some union people to work out the intricacies of what needs to be done. There are some details that need to be worked out. Through that process we will bring some definition to all of the people affected, but we have identified five groups which are: the inside union people, the inside management people, the work reduction program, the early retirement allowances, and the loggers and silviculturists. Those five groups are the groups that have been identified and brought forward to the union. They have agreed to that and we will now work on the details of how each of those groups will be affected by the announcement yesterday.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Although the minister just outlined the five groups that they were dealing with, I ask him if there has been any analysis done around the loggers that work for private companies that might have been outside of the unionized agreements that will be included, and if there are any numbers around the number of them that would have been impacted with the closure of this mill?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Mr. Speaker, the announcement yesterday was for the former AbitibiBowater employees. So if there were any loggers and silviculturists who were employed by private contractors they would not be included in yesterday’s announcement. It would be strictly for former AbitibiBowater employees.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister as well. There was a group of workers that were employed by the power plant that once the expropriation occurred were transferred to Nalcor Energy. Will these workers also be included in these severance benefit packages?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Mr. Speaker, again the Opposition Leader is correct, that there were a number of employees who left the employee of AbitibiBowater and were transferred to Nalcor, and being former employees of the company AbitibiBowater, they would be included in this announcement yesterday.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There were also cases of workers’ survivors who have lost their benefits. I am just wondering if this compensation package will include any of the benefits to this group of people as well?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, one of the five groups was what we referred to as the Early Retirement Allowance group, and that group would encompass the group that the hon. Opposition House Leader just identified, or the hon. Opposition Leader, sorry, just identified, in terms of the widows who have been highlighted in the media over the last number of weeks. They are included in the group that we have identified as the Early Retirement Allowance people.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Also, for clarification, maybe if the minister could tell me if the class of workers who were receiving the $1,200 to $1,400 payments as a means of bridging them to retirement age, if this compensation package will include the benefits to those workers as well.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the individuals that the hon. Opposition Leader refers to are the group that we have identified as the Work Force Reduction Program people. They were receiving an amount - it varied - between $1,200 and $1,400 per month up until the age of sixty-five, and those people have been identified under the broad category of Work Force Reduction Program people. They, as well, were included in yesterday’s announcement.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

One other question around that piece of it, and that includes the holiday pay. I am not sure if the compensation included the holiday pay that was due to the workers or if was just the severance piece that was due to them.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the announcement made yesterday referred specifically to the severances that were owed to the workers by AbitibiBowater. Any other negotiated benefits - vacation pay, holiday pay, whatever the case may be - are not included in our announcement. Our announcement specifically referred to severance benefits.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I ask the minister if government has an estimated cost on what this commitment will be to the Province, and also if they can tell me if there is any indication that they will be able to recoup that money from the expropriation deal with Abitibi at some point.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Mr. Speaker, the estimated amount of money - and I stress it is an estimate because we are still working out details - is approximately $35 million. In terms of any recouping of that money, the process will involve the workers assigning their claims against Abitibi to the union, the union then proceeding through the CCAA process, through the court-appointed process, and should the court rule that there be any monies owed through that process that will be paid to the union on behalf of the workers, that money would in turn be paid back to the Province.

The likelihood of that, we understand from our legal representatives, is probably not very likely, but we are going to go forward with the process.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I would also like to ask the minister where the funds are going to come from up front. Will they be coming from the provincial coffers, from Nalcor, from the federal government’s Community Development Trust program, or from some revenue stream through the expropriation of the assets or some other form?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the funds will come from the general Treasury of the provincial government. There will be a warrant that we will have to get to receive the funds, and it will just be general Treasury funds.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, I am just wondering if government can indicate to us today how much revenue they expect to generate from the expropriated assets that they now have control of?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

No, Mr. Speaker, we have not put any figures to the amount of money that will be generated out of electricity in Central. Right now what we are doing, because Seal Cove is running at its minimum level, water is being stored in Bay d’Espoir. So basically the energy that is coming from Central is being stored in the reservoir in Bay d’Espoir because we do not have a particular use for it at the moment.

Without a doubt, Mr. Speaker, we will, as our energy demands increase over the summer, but right now water is being stored.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Does the minister have any idea when we may have some demand for the use of that generated power? If we were to be using it today, what would be the revenue generation from it being accrued to the Province on an annual basis?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My alter ego is not Karl Wells, so I cannot really tell you when we are going to be using that electricity because it depends on the amount of waterfall and so on that we have in the Province.

In the summertime, as it get warm and we start to use up a bit more electricity or we have greater industrial demands, we are blessed to have that electricity available to us. We are hopeful in the long run, Mr. Speaker, that an industrial user will come forward who has a plan for use of that power in Central Newfoundland and we will be able, again, to once more use that power in that region of the Province to generate jobs for the people there. We are actively working, Mr. Speaker, to see what the possibilities of that might be.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, when government made their announcement yesterday, I think they made a comment that they would work to ensure the disbursement of these funds as soon as possible. I wonder if the minister can indicate to us today some time frame around which people can expect to see some cheques in their mailbox.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, in the announcement yesterday, when we met with all of the union local leadership, we did indicate that we wanted to have them serve on the committee with us, to work through some of these details, and we needed their support to be able to administer this.

There was a meeting earlier today of my officials and some other officials within government, whereby we put some parameters around the work we needed to do. There will be a meeting tomorrow that will include the union leadership, and based upon that meeting I think we will be able to look at some time frames.

I am reluctant to give any particular time frames right now, simply because I think tomorrow’s meeting will help define that a bit better, but we expect that some of the groups, the five groups identified, some of those, very, very quickly, would start to receive cheques very, very soon.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Last week, as well, I asked questions about the eighty-seven silviculture workers in Central Newfoundland who have been waiting to be recalled to work under an agreement, a five-year agreement that was negotiated between AbitibiBowater and the Province. That agreement to plant more than 3 million seedlings on 1,100 hectares of land has been suspended, and these eighty-seven workers have not been recalled to work.

I ask if you can give me an update today as to when they will be called back to take their jobs again this year?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister Responsible for the Forestry and Agrifoods Agency.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yes, Mr. Speaker, since the question was asked in the House last week, significant progress has been made between the government, and particularly the Department of Forestry, and the CEP silviculturalists. We are very hopeful to have people back planting trees under the Abitibi Newfoundland and Labrador agreement, hopefully by mid-June or the end of June.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I have a number of questions for a number of ministers. I do not think any of them will bring the government down today, but they need to be followed up on.

Mr. Speaker, our office has received inquires on the condition of the Fort Amherst site here in St. John’s. Although there is widespread acknowledgment about the historical and cultural importance of the site, particularly with reference to the remnants of the World War II fortifications, safety concerns resulted in the area being closed to the public some years ago.

I ask the Minister of Tourism, Culture and Recreation, we know that the City of St. John’s has recently petitioned the federal government for assistance with their planned preservation effort. I ask, have you been involved in any way in this restoration effort and been asked to commit any funds to that particular restoration site?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Tourism, Culture and Recreation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Indeed, I have been involved. I have actually visited the site myself, Mr. Speaker.

Right now, one of the things under the jurisdiction of The Rooms is to ensure that what we have there is maintained. There are certain things about air quality and there has to be very much temperature control to make sure that what is there stays intact. I cannot speak specifically to the plan but I can certainly provide the House with an update as to where things are progressing.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Just as a follow up to that. We know that a major plan was put in place by the city in 2002 for the renewal of Fort Amherst. It seems to have gone off the radar somewhat.

I ask the minister: Why has your department not designated Fort Amherst as a provincial historic site which would allow it to access the Provincial Historic Resources Act to get some resources to help in that regard?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Tourism, Culture and Recreation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

As I said, I certainly will provide the House with an update, but this is progressing through the channels. The Rooms are doing some work on it. As I said, the key thing at this particular point is to ensure that the integrity of the site as it stands now is maintained, and I will certainly provide an update on that.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My next question is for the Minister of Justice and the Attorney General. The Clarenville Women’s Correctional Facility is currently overcrowded. They have twenty-two inmates, which is over its twenty inmate capacity. A former inmate recently indicated as well that at one point inmates were triple-bunked in the cells. Overcrowding of the correctional facilities directly breaches section 9 of the United Nations Standard Minimal Rules for the Treatment of Prisoners.

What is government currently doing to curb the overcrowding problem at the Clarenville Women’s Facility?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and the Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There are twenty-two single bunk cells at the women’s prison in Clarenville. I understand from time to time that there is some double-bunking that happens. My understanding is that - I am certainly not aware of any triple-bunking. My understanding is that there were three cells in which they were double bunked.

What will happen from time to time when prisons are at excessive capacity, then federal prisoners are moved over to other federal institutions. I believe at Clarenville that was in the process of happening. I think on a weekly basis when a plane arrives, prisoners are moved out to other federal institutions and that will ultimately solve the problem.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The government received two significant reports on the state of corrections for women in this Province and committed, based upon those reports, to make certain changes. Specifically, in the last announcement of government and included in this year’s budget, I do believe, was funding for a full-time psychologist and funding for a full-time addictions counsellor for female offenders.

I ask the minister: Where is the department right now in that recruitment effort for those two professionals?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and the Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Mr. Speaker, if the hon. member will bear with me for a second, I think I can provide him with a detailed list on what has been happening and what is happening at Clarenville.

There is now, as a result of the new budget, there is now a psychologist, an addictions counsellor that will serve the women’s prison and also serve HMP. There are programs taking place in adult basic education. There are programs under the national employment to help people get the skills they need to obtain employment. There is – what I will do, I will undertake to do is – here we go.

There is a classification officer there. There is a psychiatrist now, a medical doctor, there is a psychologist, there is a methadone program, there is a Home of the Heart program offered by the Salvation Army, there is mental health counselling, there is addictions counselling, there is sexual abuse counselling, there is adult basic education, the national Employment Skills Program, regular meetings of AA, a craft program, a pastoral care program, a Native Friendship centre, and programs offered by the John Howard Society.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill–Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Before I ask you my first question I want to congratulate the government on doing the right thing and going back to the table with the nurses and sticking at it until you were able to negotiate and avert a strike.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS MICHAEL: I think it speaks to the goodwill of both sides. I think that they stayed, they compromised language and they got to where they got at 5 o’clock this morning and I think the whole of the Province was smiling because of that.

However, Mr. Speaker, the reality is, as we all know, our health care system still has considerable problems in spite of the new contract and salaries that are probably the best east of Ontario.

We have graduate nurse retention rates in the Province that are far from where they should be. We are short 1,017 nurses and the Province is continually losing 30 per cent to 40 per cent of the graduating class from the first year and experiencing losses in the years afterwards.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Premier: What aggressive plan does government, with the regional authorities, have to try to keep a greater number of our graduates in the Province this year?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: One of the biggest planks in that recruitment platform we heard announced 5:00 o’clock this morning, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: We now have a competitive salary package, competitive with the rest of the country. In fact, we are better than most people in Canada today. The situation that we have in Newfoundland and Labrador today, with this announcement early this morning, is that we will have a recruitment package, we are now second-to-none in the entire country because we are able to offer –

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: We have a competitive wage package - more than competitive, one of the best in the country. We have tuition at our university the lowest in the country.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: We have a student aid program, the best in the country.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: We have a tax rate, one of the lowest in the country.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: What better place would you want to come to work but Newfoundland and Labrador?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.


I recognize all of the things that the minister has just outlined.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS MICHAEL: However, Mr. Speaker, from January 2007 to February 2008 Eastern Health reported 212,408 hours of nursing overtime and Western Health reported 64,480 hours of nursing overtime.

Mr. Speaker, this amount of overtime that nurses are working has not disappeared overnight and will not go away in spite of the package that was agreed to this morning. It is one thing to have good wages, but nurses are also still looking at their quality of life.

Mr. Speaker, this is quite a hurdle to get new recruits to come in and to get graduate students to stay here, knowing how much overtime they will have to work. What is the government going to do about getting over that hurdle?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Speaking of hours, it has only been about six hours since we have had this sweetheart deal. I say, Mr. Speaker, give us a few more hours and we will start to deal with some of the overtime hours.

She is absolutely right; the member opposite is absolutely right. The compensation is one piece of it, the quality of work life is another significant piece, and that is why we announced – last week, I think, or the week before last – a new initiative in partnership with the nurses’ union out in Central Newfoundland, a new arrangement. We are looking at a new scheduling arrangement, a new way to better utilize some of our senior nurses. It was a collaborative effort between ourselves and the nurses’ union and the regional health authority looking at quality of work life issues.

We have a partnership with the ARNN. They have a program where they are implementing a number of initiatives in a number of our facilities, working in partnership again with our department together with the health authority and the ARNN, looking at quality of work life issues, Mr. Speaker.

There is a whole suite of issues taking place. Compensation is one of them, and some of these other initiatives are (inaudible).

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The time allotted for questions and answers has expired.

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