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Oral Questions
May 25, 2009

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MS JONES:

Mr. Speaker, Central Newfoundland has been waiting for the services of an MRI machine for the past couple of years. We know that funding has been approved, but we are not sure why government would be stalling on announcing whether that equipment would be based out of Gander hospital or Grand Falls hospital. We are aware that there has been an internal study done to look at where the equipment should actually be positioned.

I ask the minister today if you can advise the people of Central Newfoundland as to when an announcement will be made, or where the MRI equipment will be located.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: The member opposite was half right. There was a consultant engaged; it was not an internal process. There was an external group of people engaged to provide a recommendation to government. They have done that.

I have had an opportunity to review the report, and I will be bringing that forward to my Cabinet colleagues in the very near future. We would anticipate, right on the heels of that, being able to make a public announcement.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It was over three weeks ago, actually, when the minister indicated to me that the report was in his department and that they would make a decision within a few days. While government has been delaying this announcement for well over a year, the people in Central Newfoundland have to drive to St. John’s to access the service and be placed on a wait-list.

I ask you today, Minister: When can you make a firm commitment as to when this equipment will be open and operational and available to the people in Central Newfoundland?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: As I said a moment ago, the report, I acknowledged we have had it in the department and I will be bringing it forward in a matter - I would suspect that within a week to ten days I will be able to bring that forward to my Cabinet colleagues. I suspect that right on the heels of that we will be making a public announcement. At that time we will be able to talk a little bit about when we might anticipate that becoming operational.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

When the House opened for this session, one of the first issues we raised was around the Cameron report and the minister committed to provide information, including the action plan, for the implementation of the report’s recommendations before the final session of the House of Assembly.

I ask the minister today if you can give us some indication as to when that action plan and those timelines will be tabled in the House and made available to the public.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, I suspect some time before the House closes in the next couple of weeks. As I said, I had indicated that I would have it tabled before the House closed. The House is not yet closed, and I am not aware that we are planning to close any time soon, so before the House closes I will have that tabled.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

On March 23 when I questioned the minister about the details of costs associated with implementing the Cameron report he also committed to finding those details and advising the House of Assembly.

I ask the minister today: Now that you have had two months to get this information, could you please provide the people of the Province with the details around the cost of implementation?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, if the member opposite would recall, I had said at that time as well that would be a part of the implementation; as I tabled the implementation strategy I would be able to firm up some of the costs associated with that.

My answer to this one is the same as the previous one. Before this session adjourns, I will be tabling the action plan and I will provide the House and the people of the Province an update on what we anticipate to be the costs associated with the implementation of those recommendations.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Also, Justice Cameron identified the need for more staffing positions within Eastern Health and within the four health authorities.

I ask the minister today - because he did commit to bring forward a list of those positions and a timeline as to when those positions would be filled - I ask him today: What action has been taken on that issue, and have any of those positions now been recruited or filled with Eastern Health or the other health authorities?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Members of the House would recall, I think it was probably two weeks ago the Budget finally passed in this House. In that Budget submission there were a whole number of new initiatives in health, and the member opposite might recall in the Estimates we talked in some detail about how that money might be spent.

Some of the money in this year’s allocation responds to the recommendations in the Cameron report as well as some of the recommendations made by the Task Force on Adverse Health Events. So, with the passing by this House of the most recent Budget, Eastern Health now would be advised of the new allocation they have for this year and the recruitment process will be undertaken by that organization.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

We also questioned government on their commitment to compensate families that have been affected by the faulty breast cancer screening who may be excluded from any financial settlement. The Premier did commit to help facilitate this process.

I ask today, if government can give us an update on what actions have been taken in the last two months to help ensure that these families do get the compensation they deserve.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I apologize, I didn’t catch the first part of the question. I wonder if the Leader of the Opposition would pose the question again, and I will do my best to answer.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Earlier in the House of Assembly, when we first opened, we questioned the government as to what action would be taken to ensure compensation for patients who were affected by faulty breast cancer screening that may not meet the other financial compensation programs that are available. At the time the Premier said that he would facilitate a process and we are asking for an update on what has happened and what action has been taken to ensure these people do get compensated.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the Premier, in all his remarks regarding this issue, has stated time and time again that we will do everything we can, as a government, to ensure that fair compensation is paid to the people who have been most directly affected by the whole breast cancer piece.

Mr. Speaker, the Premier has also said there is a legal process that has to be gone through. We are waiting until that process completes itself, and then if there are other actions that have to be taken we will take that under full consideration.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Maybe the minister could give us an update in the House of Assembly how many of those families who were affected by the faulty breast cancer screening will receive financial settlements based on the assessments that have already been done by Eastern Health, and how many will be excluded that will have to be taken some interest in by government.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Justice and the Attorney General.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. T. MARSHALL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Of course, in this particular instance these are court cases against Eastern Health, not against government. As the Deputy Premier indicated, there is a process that has to be engaged in and government will await the outcome of that process before giving consideration to any request that might be made to it.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Our salaried medical specialists state that stress and fatigue are compromising patient safety, and recruitment has largely been unsuccessful, resulting in shortages of doctors and gaps in the system. In fact, according to Eastern Health, the net gain for new recruits since 1997 has been zero.

I ask the minister today: Is there anything specifically being done to address the recruitment and retention of salaried medical specialists in the health care system?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am very pleased to be able to comment further as I have done in this House many times on the success that we have had in physician recruitment in this Province, Mr. Speaker. One of the most successful tools that we have been able to use has been our bursary program. You may recall, last year around this time I was announcing with the Dean of the Medical School the new graduates who had actually gone through the program sponsored under the bursary program who are now committing to practice in Newfoundland and Labrador.

Some time in the very near future we will have some thirty-one new graduates coming out of this year’s program who are again recipients of a bursary program, who have a return and service commitment to practice in Newfoundland and Labrador. I am looking forward to, in the very near future, announcing the locations of where those thirty-one physicians will be practicing throughout our Province.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I guess the evidence here is that there has not been a net gain. There have been more people leaving the system than there has been going into the system and that is why the net gain has been zero. So, minister, it seems like there is quite a bit of work that needs to be done.

We have the fastest pace in population aging and the highest rate of chronic disease. Yet, since 1994 only eleven residents have completed the general internist training at MUN but only four of them remain to work in the Province and right now there are no new entrants in the program at the university.

I ask the minister: What is the plan by government to address this general internist shortage and increased demand - with an increased demand for their services today in the Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, one of the interesting things that is happening - and she was very selective of her words and I appreciate and understand that. She talks about general internists, and one of the things that we are noticing, not only in Canada but throughout the world, there is a real movement away from general practice, and in that terms, Mr. Speaker, specialty as well. What we are finding is a lot of internal medical specialists are deciding to specialize in some sub-specialty areas. Instead of being a general internist, now they want to become a sub-specialist in some further area of training that they require.

One of the things we are experiencing as a country is a general shortage or a shortage across the country of general internists. Mr. Speaker, that is something that we are not only just grappling with in this Province but we are as a country; connecting that, though, to the aging population, Mr. Speaker, there is not necessarily a correlation. We have been saying for many, many years that as a Province we are aging more rapidly than many other parts of the country and chronic illness is one of the biggest challenges facing all of us.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The minister knows we have the highest rate of chronic disease in this Province, of any Province in Canada, including high blood pressure, diabetes and heart disease. Minister, there are currently thirty-four general internists that are working in our Province; almost 30 per cent of them are over the age of sixty-five. These general internists provide about 50 per cent of the internal medicine, in-patient services and emergency services at our main hospital, the Health Sciences Centre.

I ask the minister: What is being done to secure the proper complement of internal doctors that we require to be able to continue to run these emergency rooms and our hospitals in the Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: If the member opposite were the Minister of Health we would perpetuate a circumstance we have in this Province, and we need to fix it, Mr. Speaker.

We have said many times before that we have, as she has indicated, one of the highest rates of chronic illness in the entire country. The real way we are going to deal with that is the kind of investment we are making in our wellness piece. The way to manage chronic illness is not to provide cures for it, Mr. Speaker. We need to have a system. We need to have Province. We need to have a society to take in responsibility for our own health, looking at the investments we are making in wellness, look at what we are doing – and this generations to change, Mr. Speaker. Some of the work we are doing today in our schools, looking at our new school guidelines, healthy eating, exercise, physical activity. I join with my colleague responsible for recreation, looking at a new recreation strategy.

If we are going to come to grips with chronic illness in this Province we need to start building a foundation today so future generations, as they age, do not age with the same degree (inaudible).

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Great speech, Mr. Speaker, but the reality is that we do need general internists in this Province. They are declining at a fast ratio and the positions are not being filled. In fact, they do a lot of the community promotion and healthy promotion work.

Mr. Speaker, rheumatologists treat complex diseases such as lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and osteoporosis. In fact, the recommended specialist-to-patient ratio is one for every 50,000 people. In Newfoundland and Labrador we have one for every 120,000 people. Our wait times for this service are twelve times the national standard and this is having a major impact on patients with inflammatory arthritis.

I ask the minister: Does he feel that these wait times are acceptable to the people in the Province who require this service?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, as a health system we are constantly trying to improve our wait times, trying to shorten them. One of the things we found – and let’s connect the two questions, Mr. Speaker.

The member opposite talks about the incidence of chronic illness in this Province, and she is absolutely right. The incidence of chronic illnesses in this Province is driven to increase utilization. So if we are going to truly come to grips with some of the issues we are dealing with, whether it is wait times or chronic disease management, it goes back to the original point I made a moment ago. We need to change our approach to how we provide services to the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. As a society, we need to change the approach to our thinking about health care. It is not all about cure, Mr. Speaker, it is about prevention. The emphasis we are placing on our strategies for prevention, a healthier society, whether it is health aging, our recreation piece, our chronic disease strategies, Mr. Speaker, are all things to ensure we are better as a society and we will age much healthier than the generation we currently have.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker, but the minister did not answer my question.

Right now, today, the wait time for inflammatory arthritis, patients who suffer from that, is twelve times the Canadian standard.

I ask you, minister: Is that an acceptable wait time for these patients in our Province, and what is the plan by your government to deal with this?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, I acknowledged in my last answer, the wait times are something that as a government, through our four health authorities, are continuously working on, trying to improve, trying to shorten, and there is no one magic solution, Mr. Speaker, to trying to deal with some of the issues we are facing in our health system.

I was trying to map out for the members opposite some of the things we are doing through a wellness piece, so that we are not always focusing on cure, cure, cure, Mr. Speaker. We need to be investing more in prevention. Investing more money in prevention, Mr. Speaker, and that is why we have made unprecedented investments in our wellness strategy, so that we do not have the increased incidence of chronic illnesses that we are now experiencing, and we do not have the increased pressures on many of our health providers because of the wait list they have because of the increased number of visits people need because they need support in managing their chronic illness, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The Province’s physicians are the next group hoping to negotiate a contract with government.

I ask the minister: If you can update the people of the Province today as to what the status of those negotiations are?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, members of the House might be fully aware, we have announced it much earlier, that the physicians’ contract does not expire until September.

Wanting to be very proactive, Mr. Speaker, wanting to make sure that we were working with physicians to ensure that we had a successful conclusion to negotiations, we started negotiations some time ago, Mr. Speaker, so we will be ready well in advance of the expiry of that contract in September. Because we want to make sure that, as she just pointed out, that the physicians will be the final group of individuals that we will have a very successful conclusion to collective bargaining with, and those discussions are moving very well. In fact, if I am not mistaken, there was a meeting again this morning; it was the most recent one.

So I say, Mr. Speaker, progress is being made. The parties are at the table talking, and there have been some really good initiatives coming forward by both the Medical Association and our negotiating team and we are very optimistic that we will have a successful conclusion to those (inaudible).

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

On or about March 24, near the community of Burnside, the ferry Sound of Islay collided with a privately-owned wharf and did enough damage to lift the foundation with regard to the major structure.

I ask the minister: What are the procedures, the processes and reporting mechanism that his government have when a government-owned-and-operated ferry causes damage to private property, and if he can confirm that these processes were followed in this particular case.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, whenever there is an event with any vessel on the water, likewise in the air with aircraft, Transport Canada becomes engaged. In the case of the incident at Burnside, it was brought to my attention some time shortly after it happened. I believe that most, if not all, of the official processes were followed, with the exception of whether or not the individual who owned the wharf was contacted in as timely a fashion as should have happened.

Mr. Speaker, that incident is under investigation. If we are liable for it, we will do the right thing and compensate the person for the wharf. I believe those discussions have, to some extent, taken place.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, I guess my next question is really a follow-up to what the minister had said, and one of the most important parts.

According to the individual, he advised us that he had not received any confirmation from the department and, even worse, when the accident was brought to the attention of the authorities, officials within the department preferred to deny or otherwise minimize the incident.

I ask the minister: Can he advise the House - and I know he said he was going to look into this, or what have you, but I am wondering what action he has taken to address the reluctance of officials in his department to properly address this issue before it was reported in the media and became a subject of a potential hit-and-run incident.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Mr. Speaker, all I can say to the member opposite on that is, whenever there is an incident with any of our vessels, or any of our equipment for that matter, as soon as I become aware of it, I direct officials to take as expeditious and firm an action as can be taken.

I cannot vouch for whether or not our ferry damaged that wharf or not. I was not there that day. I understand that we have had some incidents with our vessels this spring. I know that one of our captains has been off on paid leave as a result of an investigation on whether or not disciplinary action should or should not take place. I cannot quite remember if this is the same incident or not. In any event, when we have an incident where our vessel touches a rock or a wharf that we should not be touching, it is being investigated as soon as I find out about it, if not before, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, as of this morning this gentleman who had the damage done to his wharf at Burnside advised our office that nobody from government has contacted him to even apologize or give an explanation or an indication of what repairs would be made by the department. What he stated to us: all he has seen is an e-mail statement from the minister to The Telegram which was reprinted in the paper this past weekend.

All I ask the minister, Mr. Speaker: Can he advise this House, will he provide a proper apology to this individual and make sure that compensation will be offered to address this problem?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Mr. Speaker, I have asked our officials, if appropriate, that we compensate the individual for damage that our vessel – if our vessel damaged the wharf, then we provide the appropriate compensation.

Mr. Speaker, wharves in bays in Newfoundland and Labrador, especially on the Northeast Coast where there is ice, may or may not be damaged by ferries. Once we establish whether or not we damaged that wharf, if we damaged it, we will compensate. If we did not damage it, then the owner of the wharf will have to look after it himself.

No, we are not going to issue an apology yet. I do not know the details of whether or not we did it. I was informed that there may have been an incident there. I asked that it be investigated and that the appropriate action be taken once we find out what the answers in the investigation are.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, we were also advised this morning that the individual has stated that someone from the department has looked at the damage that was done and said yes, they did do it.

My question to the minister now, since he mentioned with regard to the captain, whether he was on or off duty, is: Will he check this out and confirm to this House what did happen, and if the captain was involved in this particular incident or was he off at that particular time?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Transportation and Works.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. TAYLOR: Mr. Speaker, either the owner of the wharf or the hon. Opposition Transportation critic needs to get their story straight. He is suggesting that nobody has contacted him, in one sentence, in one set of questions, and then he turns around, in the last question, and said that somebody from the department had been in contact with him. So, what was it? You cannot stand up here in the House in the course of three minutes and accuse officials in my department of not contacting the owner of the wharf, and then turn around and say that we were in contact with him.

Mr. Speaker, all I can say is that I am aware of the incident. I asked the people involved, the officials involved, to ensure that appropriate action was taken.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. TAYLOR: Once we find out if we were liable, what the cost is, the person will be dealt with appropriately.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Just as a follow-up, Mr. Speaker, I say to the minister: neither the minister nor any official in his department actually spoke to the individual who owns the property.

AN HON. MEMBER: Then how do you know (inaudible)?

MR. BUTLER: He has other relatives that were spoken to.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

In the Town of Grand Falls-Windsor, the former Grand Falls Academy high school has now been listed as a potentially harmful structure. The building is full of asbestos. According to Occupational Health and Safety it is safely contained at the present time; however, if this building is disturbed in some way such as by fire, which has already occurred and damaged the building, and if this further continues, asbestos could become potentially hazardous to the exposure and to those individuals who are nearby. The Town of Grand Falls-Windsor is extremely concerned about the safety implications and should this old building remain in place, and they feel that government should be helping them to deal with this situation.

I ask the minister: What is government doing in order to solve this problem in an efficient manner and ensure that the surrounding residents will not be exposed to the asbestos?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

For the information of the member opposite, the building is not the property of the provincial government or the school board; it was disposed of. The expectation from me would be that the current owner of the building would dispose of it in a manner that falls within the legislation of government with respect to the handling of dangerous materials such as asbestos.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, another week, another tragedy. It appears a possible adverse event happened last week in the Clarenville Hospital, though there is still no official word from Eastern Health one way or the other. This information has been on a radio station Province-wide and could create a panic.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister of Health and Community Services: Why isn’t Eastern Health saying anything publicly at this point about the death of the child who was seen by personnel at the Clarenville Hospital emergency room on Thursday past?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: There was a real tragedy in Clarenville on Friday and our thoughts and prayers are with the families who have been affected by that.

To the member’s question: I understand that the Medical Officer of Health with Eastern Health has been speaking publicly this morning. At least on two media outlets I understand he has made comment. I would be only too glad to supply the member opposite with a copy of those transcripts so that she may have the same information that the public does.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I am aware of what the Chief Medical Officer from Eastern Health has said, and he has confirmed that the child died of meningitis, but the information that is on the Province-wide radio station is giving much more information than that with regard to the child’s being sent home from the emergency room and all those details. I am sure if the minister knows what the Chief Medical Officer said, he knows that information as well.

Because of the public nature of the information out there, why has Eastern Health not yet made a public statement addressing those issues?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: It is a delicate topic that she is raising here, and I want to separate two issues.

One is Dr. Allison has been out talking about the public health issue, making sure that the information is in the public domain with respect to meningitis.

The other issue at hand, Mr. Speaker, is the tragedy itself, and it would be very inappropriate for Eastern Health to be, in a public way, responding to comments that may have been made in the public domain by other people, or responding to questions that may be being asked by family members. Those sorts of things will be dealt with in a very private fashion.

It is not a practice of Eastern Health or any other health authority to get into a discussion in the public domain with respect to issues around patients or their families, this confidential information. Sometimes family members may choose to raise questions in the public domain, but unfortunately the health authority does not have the ability to be able to respond publicly because of confidentially, Mr. Speaker.

During this very sensitive time, I appreciate why Eastern Health would not want to engage in a public discussion around what may or may not have taken place, until an investigation is finally concluded.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

The minister and I both know that if there has been an adverse event, that there are two dimensions to the reporting by Eastern Health. One, is admitting the adverse event to the family or those involved, or to the individual, if the individual has not died. The other is making public statements with regard to it.

So, I am not asking for confidential information to be made public, but I think the public needs to know from Eastern Health if there was an adverse event that took place. If they do not know it as yet, when are they going to know it?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I ask that question of the minister.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: I fail to understand why the member opposite would want to start prying into something so private in such a very public way.

Eastern Health has indicated that there has been – I think Dr. Elliston commented this morning that there was an event that happened on Friday. The event is under investigation, and until that investigation is over, Mr. Speaker, Eastern Health themselves are still trying to determine exactly what went wrong and what happened, and until that is done, no one is in a position to make a comment.

So thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The time allotted for questions and answers have expired.

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