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Newfoundland and Labrador

Oral Questions
May 28, 2009

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MS JONES:

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Given that the House may be closing fairly soon, we have questions from a number of areas.

Mr. Speaker, when it is necessary to remove a child from parental care in this Province there are several placement options. When foster care or group homes are not suitable or available, individualized or Alternate Living Arrangements, known as ALAs, are often used. The ALA services are delivered to the children through home support agencies.

I ask the minister: Is there a set of provincial government standards that ensures that these agencies are following best practices in residential care?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Child, Youth and Family Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, there are typically three types of issues for children who would go to an ALA placement. That would be children in sibling groups where it would be otherwise difficult to find a foster home to take the group of children. Sometimes it would be children with complex needs who go to an ALA type setting prior to going into possibly a treatment centre or a therapeutic foster home outside the Province. Sometimes ALAs are used for children who do not have a foster care placement but would be easily put into the typical foster care home once one becomes available.

At this time, the ALA arrangements that have been set up and the policies that guide them have been set up by the regional health boards as opposed to a provincial policy.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Personal care homes in the Province are licensed. That is, the regional health authorities can go in, assess the home, establish the requirements, and on an annual basis renew the licence for the home based on that assessment. Regional health authorities have been asking for the same type of licensing for the ALA homes; yet, government has not put the legislation in place to make this happen.

I ask the minister: When are you going to implement this legislation to licence ALA homes?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Child, Youth and Family Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, there are quite a few differences between an ALA and a personal care home, just based sometimes on the temporary nature of an ALA that would be in response to probably being set up to accommodate a sibling group, as opposed to being a home that is established that we use on a regular basis.

In the meantime, Mr. Speaker, this government certainly feels there needs to be more focus in the area of Child, Youth and Family Services and, as a result, in our recent budget announcement we have certainly developed the new department that will focus solely on Child, Youth and Family Services.

We go back to the clinical review, and although it did not specifically address ALAs there is certainly a need for legislative review, which will be happening by this new department. We will certainly review the legislation that guides the activities of the Child, Youth and Family Services, and we will certainly be doing a comprehensive review.

So any legislation that is either in place that may need to be amended, or any new legislation that needs to come forward, to be able to assist us to have a more child focus on our Child, Youth and Family Services, we will certainly be doing that, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, concerns have been expressed over the qualifications to work in an ALA. We understand that there are people working with these high-risk children who do not even have basic level training, such as first aid, non-violent crisis intervention, and suicide intervention.

I ask the minister: What is your department doing to ensure that only qualified people are working with our most vulnerable children?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Child, Youth and Family Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, there would be a number of people who would work with children who are in an ALA setting.

The case manager, the person who oversees the case, would be a registered social worker, and registered in the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador. In addition to that, based on the specific needs, there could also be involved in any particular case a child psychologist or a psychiatrist. There could be a paediatric nurse or there could be a medical doctor, so there are many people who are members of any particular case management team who would be qualified to provide intervention or to be able to provide input into the case plan, based on their expertise.

Mr. Speaker, certainly, there are also requirements with regard to foster homes and the PRIDE program that our foster parents need to have completed in order to become foster parents.

Mr. Speaker, I certainly want to make the point that with any team that supports any child who is removed from the home, there certainly would be registration within their professional field, and they would be part of that team.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, it is a requirement, according to the Child, Youth and Family Services, that a criminal record check be part of the process in order to be hired as a caregiver for children in this Province. We know that children with criminal convictions have been working with our children at risk for almost two months before the criminal record check was completed.

I ask the minister: Does government feel it is acceptable that people with criminal convictions are able to access children in ALAs in this manner, and what do you intend to do about it?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Child, Youth and Family Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, it is my understanding that there were issues that came forth from Labrador with allegations that there were people with criminal records working with children in ALA settings. The information that I was provided by my officials also indicated that there were no individuals working in the ALAs who did have criminal records, although that allegation did come forward.

I had asked my officials about that; they confirmed with me that the individuals who were working in the ALAs in the particular place where the allegation came forward did not have criminal records.

Mr. Speaker, it is a requirement that is there and it is my understanding that requirement is being followed.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Based on recent statistics, a significant number of children in care in Labrador are largely Aboriginal; yet, there is no cultural component to their ALA.

I ask the minister: Do you intend to do anything to address this shortcoming, and when could we look forward to seeing something being done?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Child, Youth and Family Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS BURKE: Mr. Speaker, the questions put forward by the hon. member certainly highlight some of the deficiencies in the system and certainly exemplify why this government has decided to have a new department for Child, Youth and Family Services.

There are many gaps in services. We had the Clinical Services Review, which will provide the basis for change, but we also note - and it was in the Abell report - that there are no quick fixes to this issue, either, and that it is going to take a number of years for us to bring the system to where it needs to be.

One thing that is particularly important is that when we deal with Aboriginal children we do have cultural sensitivities and we are able to provide a cultural component to their care, whether it is foster care, ALA, or out-of-the-Province care.

The other thing, Mr. Speaker, I have also had correspondence from the Innu Nation. They want to be able to look at child protection issues and the child welfare system in an attempt, possibly, to be able to take over responsibility for those services. When I am in Labrador, I certainly have intentions of meeting with representatives from the Innu Nation but we feel strongly that the Aboriginal component is absolutely important.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Energy drinks are meant to supply mental and physical stimulation for a short period of time. They are not to be confused with sports drinks, which rehydrate the body. Health Canada cautions that children under eighteen, pregnant women or breastfeeding women, should avoid energy drinks. Possible side effects from energy drinks include nausea, vomiting and heart irregularities.

I ask the minister: Has government considered any legislated restrictions on energy drinks for young people in our Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is not something that is under active consideration at this time, Mr. Speaker, but the member opposite raises a valid point. Obviously, we need to be very cognisant of the jurisdiction that the federal government has in regulating various products, food products and others in the country. Provincial regulations and guidelines should be in sync with what we have federally but it is not something that is under active consideration, but I will have officials in my department review the issue and report back to the House.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, according to health officials energy drinks are loaded with caffeine and other herbal extracts. Nutritionists worry about children becoming addicted. A person would have to eat five-and-a-half chocolate bars or drink four cans of cola in one sitting to ingest the same amount of caffeine found in just one can of these energy drinks.

I ask the minister: What research has been done in this Province? It is obviously becoming a problem. What research has been done or what is intended to be done to determine the impacts of these drinks on our children in this Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, as a government we have made some significant strides in recent years as a part of our wellness strategy to ensure that the people of Newfoundland and Labrador, particularly our children, fully understand the value of nutrition. Some of the things we have done in our new school food guidelines, some of the things we have done as a part of our Healthy Students, Healthy Schools initiative, all with a view, Mr. Speaker, to create a better understanding in our society about the value of nutrition, the value of making appropriate choices about the food you eat, the liquid you drink, the level of physical activity that you enjoy. So, Mr. Speaker, as a part of our overall wellness strategy, as a government I think we have become very cognisant of the impacts of making appropriate lifestyle choices on people’s health and well being, and we will continue to make those kind of strategic investments.

In areas with respect to the kinds of products that are being licensed to come into the market and the regulations around food products, Mr. Speaker, is a federal jurisdiction, but as I said a second ago, we are not currently doing any research in this particular area but our regulation in this Province needs to be in sync with the federal (inaudible).

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I say that it is obvious that the government has no understanding that this issue is current, this issue is relevant. Tobacco is also a licensed product but we also took undertakings and moves in this Province to make sure of how they were dealt with by our young people and in certain public places. While these drinks are not being sold on public property, students are bringing these drinks to school. Teachers have raised concerns about the growing popularity of these drinks and their effects on students. Teachers say there is a spike in student behavioural problems and they are unable to maintain attention in class.

I ask the minister: How much of a problem, indeed, are these energy drinks causing in our classrooms, and are you prepared or considering a ban on these drinks in our schools?

MR. SPEAKER: Order please!

The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Mr. Speaker, to the member’s question on the energy drinks. We do have food guidelines that have been developed in keeping with Canada’s Food Guideline and in consultation with the Department of Health. We certainly do discourage the use of those kinds of drinks. We have not brought in a regulation or a rule that prevents those drinks from going on school property, as a government. Rules of that kind of nature would be the responsibility of the school boards in consultation with individual schools, but there is nothing whatsoever to restrict an individual school council from having a rule that would prevent it. I might say there is nothing to prevent an individual parent from talking to their children and discouraging them from bringing things of that nature to school.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I think it is quite evident to everybody that parents do in fact pay a key role in educating their children. However, you cannot slough this off to the school boards. The government, I would suggest, has an onus on them as well to inform people. Many parents may not be aware of the contents of these energy drinks or the effect these drinks may be having on their children.

Is government considering any kind of educational campaign or marketing campaign to make parents and citizens of our Province aware of the potential hazards of these energy drinks?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order please!

The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: I am glad the member opposite prefaced his question by saying we are getting to the end of the session because we are scraping the bottom of the barrel with questions today, I say, Mr. Speaker.

It is an extremely important topic that the member opposite is raising, though, at the same time. Is that having an awareness and an understanding of the products that we eat, the products that we drink is an extremely important thing for all of society to consider. As I said a moment ago, that is the very reason, Mr. Speaker, that we are investing millions of dollars, on an annual basis, in our wellness campaign to ensure that we create a better understanding of the importance of making those lifestyle choices, the importance of educating our children. That is why we are doing tremendous work in conjunction with the Department of Education and some of the kinds of things we are doing with our students. It is the reason why we engage in social marketing campaigns, to create an understanding of parents so they can educate and advise their children and provide guidance, Mr. Speaker, but as I said a moment ago –

MR. SPEAKER: Order please!

The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

On May 19, government announced a $35 million package to cover the severance for the former workers of AbitibiBowater.

I ask the minister: Were there any negotiations or consultations, prior to that announcement, with Services Canada or Revenue Canada to work out the EI and tax implications of distributing these funds?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Mr. Speaker, with the announcement that was made here a couple of weeks ago, it was indicated that we would be working with the unions representing the workers affected by the Abitibi closure to make sure that they had all of the information that they needed and all of the capacity that they would require to be able to address any issues that would be arising from the payment of the severance and the other benefits that government undertook to pay.

That committee is in place. They are doing their work. They are following through on questions that are being directed to them by their membership, and I am sure that the members are receiving the information that they need to make informed decisions.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you.

Mr. Speaker, most of these former workers are already signed up with Services Canada and are registered to receive EI. That means when and if these workers receive this government-sponsored severance package, it will impact upon how much and how long they continue to receive EI. In other words, it is possible for these workers to change from being recipients of EI to suddenly owing money back to EI the moment they receive these government-sponsored severance funds.

I ask the minister: What arrangements, if any, have been made with Services Canada to ensure that this government-sponsored severance package does not negatively affect the EI of these workers?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, in our discussions with the union leadership regarding government providing monies to the union to be able to meet the former obligations of AbitibiBowater, it was indicated that any of the impacts that would be felt upon workers, as would normally be felt had they received their severances and their obligations from AbitibiBowater, would have to be met, would have to be understood that people may have some impact. They understood that. They understood that it may happen should they receive their severances from AbitibiBowater. There are no issues with that, that I am aware of, and things are progressing along and workers are happy, the unions are happy and everything seems to be going quite nicely out there.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Mr. Speaker, there are allowances in the tax system to shelter portions of severance payments into RRSPs and related instruments; however, these allowances assume that funds are coming directly from the employers and are received directly by instruments controlled by the employee. In this case, the severance package funds are coming from government, not the employer, are then transferred to the union and then to an accounting firm, not directly to the employees’ financial instruments.

I ask the minister: What arrangements, if any, has government made with Revenue Canada to ensure that the workers are not hit with an unnecessary and onerous tax bill as a result of the government-sponsored severance?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Mr. Speaker, as I indicated earlier, the government, in consultation with the union leadership, is in the process of determining the way in which this will flow. So, the assumption that the hon. member just made is exactly that, an assumption. That process has not yet been finalized.

The second point which he raises relative to sheltering of money and so on, as I indicated, we have provided an undertaking to the union leadership that we will provide to them whatever assistance they need from financial managers, from actuaries, anything that they need like that, accounting firms, to be able to deal with these issues, and the union is moving forward, quite happy with the arrangement that has been made and quite happy that government has stepped up and made sure that they receive the obligation that they should have received from AbitibiBowater.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It seems clear that government has made and announced another decision related to AbitibiBowater without considering and thinking through all the implications.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Mr. Minister, at the end of the day, once all the consultations are done that you are talking about, will government compensate or otherwise shelter the former AbitibiBowater workers from any unintended negative impacts regarding EI and tax liabilities which might occur as a result of this government-sponsored severance package?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural Development.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, I think the answer to that question is obvious. Government has provided $35 million of sheltering to the workers of Central Newfoundland and Labrador -

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SKINNER: - and government is very happy to be able to provide that sheltering.

As I have indicated in my previous answers, we are working with the union executive, who are working with the affected members, to ensure that this flows as easily and nicely and as co-operatively as it can, and we will continue to do that kind of work, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, last session in the House of Assembly we highlighted the fact that Newfoundland and Labrador is one of the last provinces to bring forward midwifery legislation.

The Minister of Health and Community Services committed, at that time, to bringing forward umbrella legislation that would address this concern, as well as licence other health professionals in other disciplines.

I ask the minister: What is the status of this legislation now, and when can we expect to see it tabled in the House?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

If the member opposite would reflect on the comments I made in the House, I think I indicated that some time before the end of 2009 – which we are only halfway through now – that we would anticipate having that legislation brought before the House.

It is a significant piece of work, Mr. Speaker, to look at the regulation of a number of disciplines that we currently do not have regulation for, especially when we are trying to bring it together in one umbrella piece of legislation.

Significant work has been done, significant progress has been made, and from the discussions I have had in recent weeks about the status of the work in progress we are on target to have that introduced in the House by the fall session.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Opposition House Leader.

MR. KELVIN PARSONS: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

There are other health disciplines that have contacted our office, also asking for this umbrella legislation. One of these groups is the Newfoundland and Labrador acupuncture association. Even though this is a growing practice in our Province, these professionals have no legislation governing their activities. We even have a private college that offers a three-year program on acupuncture in this Province, but these graduates do not have to meet any provincial certification requirements upon graduation.

I ask the minister: Are you concerned that there are no standards whatsoever guiding the practice of acupuncture in the Province, and will these individuals be included under the umbrella legislation that you referred to?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: The member opposite has identified one particular group, but we have a number of professions. We made a commitment in this House very recently that we would have laboratory medicine also covered by legislation. We have speech language pathologists who are not yet regulated in this Province. We have x-ray and imaging technicians who are not. We have ultrasonographers who are not, and respiratory therapists who are not, so we have a fairly large number of people currently in practice in the Province who are not yet regulated.

Mr. Speaker, that was the reason – because some of these groups are fairly large, some more of them are relatively small - that is one of the reasons that we believed it was fundamentally important for us to develop an umbrella piece of legislation to ensure that we have not only those that are currently in practice covered, but as other disciplines emerge over time we will have the umbrella legislation to embody those in the future.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, last year the Opposition raised questions in the House about the dysfunctional relationship within and between the Town of Portugal Cove-St. Phillips and its residents, and the minister assured that action would be taken. Yet, we know that no action was taken by the Department of Municipal Affairs and that all parties to the conflict feel let down by government.

I ask the minister: Why did you choose to take no decisive action on the Portugal Cove-St. Phillips file, despite the fact that directives from your department were breached?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Municipal Affairs.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS WHALEN: Mr. Speaker, the Department of Municipal Affairs, my officials and myself, met with the Town of Portugal Cove-St. Phillips and we raised the concerns with them that were brought to my attention. They were given a directive, and just this morning the mayor met with me in Portugal Cove-St. Phillips - and the town manager - to bring me up to speed to where they were, and it is almost to a resolution.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

I guess the minister must have been aware I was going to ask her the question.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. BUTLER: Mr. Speaker, since raising questions on problems with this municipal government -

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Member for the District of Port de Grave.

MR. BUTLER: Since raising questions on problems with municipal government, we have heard from many other municipal governments who have complained about the lack of due diligence and leadership from the Department of Municipal Affairs. Only today, Mr. Speaker, we learned of the resignation of the Mayor of Steady Brook.

With new municipal elections taking place this fall, will your department be adopting any new policies or procedures to ensure municipal councils can function effectively and take timely action when significant problems are identified and bogged down by council’s work?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The Chair is having great difficulty in hearing the questions that are asked.

The hon. the Minister of Municipal Affairs.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS WHALEN: Mr. Speaker, we did become aware last night of Mr. Dawson’s resignation. We received a copy of the news release right after the town council meeting last night.

The department will continue to work with the Town of Steady Brook in order to move this forward, but Municipal Affairs officials are always aware and they are always there to assist councillors with any issues in their town.

I would like to go back to the member. I was not anticipating his question, but I would like him to know that we are on top of things in our department.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, it has been brought to my attention that out of the fourteen cardiac surgeries scheduled this week at the Health Sciences Centre only one was able to be completed due to a lack of available ICU beds. In January seventeen cardiac surgeries in St. John’s were cancelled because there were not enough nurses. That means more than one-quarter of the scheduled surgeries were cancelled for that month alone. We have also heard of cancellations due to a shortage of anesthesiologists.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister of Health and Community Services: Could he give us some concrete examples of what his department is doing to deal with this ongoing critical situation?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Mr. Speaker, one of the reasons that the member cited for some of the challenges we are having is the nursing issue, and she wants a tangible example. Well, let me share one with her.

We just recently, just a few days ago, in fact, negotiated very successful, averted a strike and negotiated the best collective agreement of any unionized group in the entire country, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: Nurses in Newfoundland and Labrador have a contract today second to none. They are among the best paid nurses in the entire country. They have benefits second to none in the entire country. That is a very tangible example, I say to the member opposite, of where our government has provided leadership and stepped up to the plate, Mr. Speaker, to address some of the critical issues that the nurses’ union identified with respect to recruitment and retention of nurses.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The minister knows that that contract is not going to deal with the urgent situations now.

Mr. Speaker, last summer health authorities reduced elective services and closed beds during the summer as a way to deal with the shortage of nurses in the Province. We know nurses need to have vacations as well as all other workers. Eastern Health closed two long-term care units as Hoyles Escasoni last summer, we had maternity patients shipped around Central Newfoundland, and dialysis units temporarily closed in St. Anthony.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister: What plans does this government have in place to deal with this summertime issue this summer, here and now, not in two years time?

Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Health and Community Services.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. WISEMAN: I am glad the member opposite acknowledged that our health care workers need vacation. They work very long hours. They are dedicated individuals who make a big commitment to the people of Newfoundland and Labrador, and they, together with all of us in this Province, deserve a periodic holiday, and many of them like to take that during the summertime when their children are out of school and the family can be together.

Ever since I can remember, and long before I was ever involved in the health system, which dates back to the early 1980s, the health organizations in this Province have always made adjustment in the summertime to accommodate nurses and other individuals who need annual vacation. So what we will experience in 2009, the summer of 2009, is the same thing that was experienced in the summer of 1985, 1981, 1979 and will probably be well into the future, Mr. Speaker, adjust the level of operation to facilitate the much needed and the much deserved vacations that staff need to take.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The time allotted for questions and answers have expired.

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