MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, today people from the
St. Anthony region held a demonstration on the steps of
Confederation Building as well as in the St. Anthony
area. The concerned citizens group came here today to
meet with the Premier; they came to deliver the message
that moving the air ambulance from one location to
another will not necessarily improve the services.
I ask the Premier today:
Will he commit to meeting with
these people who have come so far from the Northern
Peninsula and hear their issues and hear their concerns?
Mr. Speaker, we are of the understanding that there was
a refusal to meet, and in fact, his office had
instructed them that they should send a letter, request
a meeting and when they get to it, they would get to it.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, over the last period
of weeks I have met with the town council of St. Anthony
on a number of occasions. I have also met with the MHA
for the region.
Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the
Opposition stated today that the moving of the plane
will not necessarily improve services. I can indicate
that the moving of the plane will improve services to
the people of Labrador especially and will not result in
a diminished service to the people on the Island portion
of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.
Mr. Speaker, it is also important
to recognize how this issue came about. On December 15,
2009 the Leader of the Opposition presented a 3,000-name
petition to this hon. House asking to establish a
medevac team and a medical flight in Labrador.
Mr. Speaker, we have two airplanes
in this Province. We were in a situation where we had to
look at providing the best possible service. A
consultant prepared a report, and based on a number of
factors, it was concluded that the best centralized
service is in Happy Valley-Goose Bay.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The minister knows full well that
the request was for a third air medevac service for this
Province to be based in Labrador to serve the people of
the Province better. Mr. Speaker, we are getting no
answer from the Premier today as to whether he is
prepared to meet with these people from the Northern
Peninsula who have come here to bring their message to
government.
Mr. Speaker, a week ago the air
ambulance team that works with this service in the
Province took the opportunity to review the report from
the minister’s office and to counteract a number of
things that they felt needed to be counteracted in it.
That information was given to the minister, and what was
evident was this: Both the consultant’s report in the
minister’s office as well as the one by frontline
workers indicated that the most critical issue was the
availability of a medical flight team.
I ask the minister today:
Why was there no further
investigation into the lack of such a team being based
at St. Anthony?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, Mr. Speaker, in relation to the
petition, again it stated quite clearly: to establish a
medevac team in Labrador, and there was no reference to
a third airplane.
Mr. Speaker, I have reviewed the
report prepared by the Labrador-Grenfell employees and I
have also had an opportunity to meet with one of them
when the town council came to St. John’s. Mr. Speaker,
what is interesting is that the Opposition jumped up and
down when the report first came out questioning the
numbers, questioning the recommendations.
What has happened is that the
numbers are correct that we have provided. Also, this
Labrador-Grenfell report prepared by employees of
Labrador-Grenfell indicates agreement with
Recommendations 2 to 7. Essentially, they elaborate -
and there are some good points raised. Essentially, Mr.
Speaker, they disagree with the placement of the plane.
So at the end of the day, we have
Lab West in a very heartfelt plea last week asking to
have an air ambulance. We have Happy Valley-Goose Bay
and we have St. Anthony. We had to make a decision. The
Leader of the Opposition asked us to make a decision.
She put the petition before the House and we acted on
it.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The minister knows the difference.
Even in briefing notes in his own department going back
to September, it was noted that the Official Opposition
were asking for a review to enhance services in this
Province, adding a third air ambulance.
Mr. Speaker, the consultant’s
report that was used to justify this move has been shown
to be flawed, incomplete and did not consider the needs
of the entire Province as a whole.
I ask the minister today:
Why wasn’t the location of all air
medevac aircraft part of this full review?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, Mr. Speaker, the petition
presented by the Leader of the Opposition stated: We,
the undersigned residents in Labrador, call on the
Newfoundland and Labrador provincial government to
establish a medevac response team and aircraft in
Labrador. Mr. Speaker, there was no reference again to a
third airplane. We have done what the Leader of the
Opposition asked us to do and now we are being
criticized for it. So is she saying that there should
not be a plane in Labrador? Is that what I am hearing
today?
Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the
Opposition in a letter to me - and I replied to her
letter - outlined a number of concerns with this report.
She referred to diminished service in the rest of the
Province. Mr. Speaker, the statistics indicate that
outside of St. Anthony, 74 per cent of the flights on
the Island portion of the Province are responded to by
either St. John’s King Air or the charter flights. Mr.
Speaker, there are twice as many flights out of
Labrador. The population of Labrador is twice that of
the St. Anthony, Port au Choix region. We have heavy
industrialization in the Labrador area.
Mr. Speaker, the arguments against
this report are based on what might happen, but what I
would suggest to the Leader of the Opposition: You
should sit down with the Best family in Happy
Valley-Goose Bay, sit down with the Mitchell family in
Lab West and sit down with the Perry family (inaudible)
-
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It is quite obvious that this
minister hears what he wants to hear and the plea has
always been – from the people in Labrador – for a third
air ambulance for this Province, and that is the part
minister that you ignored. The reality is this, Mr.
Speaker, the decision is based on a study that has been
flawed, that does not encompass the full air medevac
services for the Province, and neither does it look at
the response times to every single region of this
Province, including the West Coast of Newfoundland.
I ask you today, minister:
Will you not conduct another
review that is all encompassing and looks at the full
air medevac services for this Province, including those
communities in Labrador that have to use a chartered
Twin Otter aircraft?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we have conducted the
review of the statistics as to the Island portion of the
Province and we have looked at Lab West. I met last week
in Lab West, we had some good discussions. Well, Mr.
Speaker, there appears to be a group that in the
leader’s mind are forgotten, and that are the people on
the North Coast of Labrador, the people of the
Nunatsiavit government, the people of the Innu Nation. I
received, Mr. Speaker –
MS JONES:
(Inaudible).
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
An important question is asked, an
important answer is given. I ask members for their
co-operation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of Health
and Community Services.
MR. KENNEDY:
Mr. Speaker, we received a very nice
letter today from the Mayor of Rigolet stating: this is
a forward move for our people and I commend you for it.
I would ask you to not bend to the pressure to move the
services. You made a good decision.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the hon. minister not to go
reading from correspondence and just to paraphrase.
The hon. the minister, to complete
his answer.
MR. KENNEDY:
So, Mr. Speaker, what we have looked
at is all of the factors. We have looked at the
recommendations by Mr. Drodge; we will improve the
dispatch times. Last week, when I met with the doctors
in Lab West I indicated, Sir, that we would –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. KENNEDY:
Mr. Speaker, I indicated last week,
when I met in Lab West, that we would utilize Quebecair
if necessary; we would utilize charter services as
necessary, and what I am told by the experts in the
area, Mr. Speaker, is that two dedicated King Air, along
with charter services, allow for the services to be
provided to this Province as a whole.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, a medical flight
servicing from St. Anthony hospital was used up until
two years ago when government implemented a new flight
service program and discontinued the regular use of the
team out of St. Anthony.
I ask the minister today:
Why was this policy not
re-evaluated and a flight team re-established at St.
Anthony when problems were identified in the air
ambulance services?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Difficulties with the air
ambulance certainly came to the forefront in July of
last year with the incident in Labrador West on July 15.
Then on September 18, Mr. Speaker, we had a very
unfortunate incident in Happy Valley-Goose Bay. What we
did, based partly on the petition presented to the House
and also on the meetings I have had with the town
councils in Labrador West and Happy Valley-Goose Bay, we
decided to commission a report. That report looked at
all aspects of the air ambulance service in terms of the
improvements necessary. We will improve dispatch times,
Mr. Speaker. We have made a significant investment with
a new airplane and also with a second medical flight
services team.
What we are looking at, Mr.
Speaker, is not the provision of services to one area.
We are looking to the provision of services to this
Province as a whole to best protect the interests of the
residents of this Province. When you look at that, Mr.
Speaker, we will now have a second airplane with a
medical flight services team in Happy Valley-Goose Bay.
We feel that, Mr. Speaker, the interests of all
residents of this Province will be better protected and
not of an individual town or region.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. Member for the District of
The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, fatalities are very
unfortunate, obviously, and my fear is that in the move
we are going to have fatalities in my region instead of
in Labrador, and we do not want it in either.
Recommended by the air ambulance
staff, again I would ask: Is
the government prepared to conduct a full investigation
into all the fatalities with any connection to past air
ambulance services and flights and determine the reasons
for the fatalities, both in Labrador and the Island, in
order to really identify the gaps in the system and make
the necessary changes to improve them?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, one of the advantages
of the plane being placed in Happy Valley-Goose Bay is
that now all areas of this Province will be within sixty
minutes of air ambulance service. That did not take
place while the plane was stationed in St. Anthony.
Also, Mr. Speaker, with the utilization of charter
planes, improved dispatch, hopefully partnerships with
Quebecair or the Quebec government, we will also be able
to better serve the individuals of Lab West. Mr.
Speaker, what I would suggest to the members of the
Opposition –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of Health
and Community Services.
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, what we are trying to
do here is provide services to all residents of the
Province. The people in the North Coast of the Province,
Mr. Speaker, will be better served.
To the point from the Leader of
the Opposition, we do have Fermont with mining
developments there. We met with all the mining
companies, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. KENNEDY:
What we are looking at are providing
services that will benefit all residents of this
Province and that is what we will continue to do.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
Further questions?
The hon. the Member for the
District of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
That sixty minute policy is going
to be difficult at times when 28 per cent of the
respondents that St. Anthony does today are being done
by Goose Bay. You cannot send a plane from Goose Bay to
Gander in sixty minutes unless you really improve the
speed time over what it is today.
Mr. Speaker, the consultant’s
report is missing key variables as well, such as
geography, weather, services available, staffing levels
and a host of other issues. These issues are highlighted
by front line workers again in their submission to the
minister.
I ask the minister:
Why were these critical components
not part of this review?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
If I could just use a couple of
examples here to highlight, Mr. Speaker, how the service
currently works. If you look at right now in terms of
Stephenville, for example, Mr. Speaker, 59 per cent of
the calls were serviced by St. John’s air ambulance and
17 per cent by a charter aircraft. So 76 per cent of the
calls to Stephenville were out of St. John’s or by
charter. In Deer Lake, Mr. Speaker, 68 per cent of the
air ambulance transports originated from St. John’s and
10 per cent were handled by a charter – so again, 78 per
cent.
So what we are seeing, Mr.
Speaker, is a response time that is coming out of St.
John’s, in any event. Also, Mr. Speaker, the forty-five
minute drive to the St. Anthony airport will certainly
now no longer be necessary as a result of the proximity
of the Goose Bay airport to the hospital. So what we
will see, Mr. Speaker, overall – at least I am informed
by the experts in the air ambulance – is a very
significantly improved service that will look after all
residents in this Province.
Mr. Speaker, last week in Lab West
I heard story after story of people with a plaintive cry
to have an air ambulance in their area. Mr. Speaker, we
have three areas now saying they want an air ambulance.
We have resources that we have to try to use as
efficiently, as effectively as possible to produce
results and to protect all people in this Province, and
that is what we are trying to do, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, the air ambulance staff,
who could certainly have helped significantly improve
the air ambulance service, were never questioned or
never consulted in the whole process. Have they provided
the minister with an expanded terms of reference that
would clearly improve the air ambulance service and
ensure the best possible for all of our Province?
So I ask the minister:
Have you reviewed the fourteen
recommendations put forward and are you willing to
undertake a broader review that addresses these
concerns?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Mr. Speaker, I have reviewed the
report prepared by the Lab-Grenfell employees, and it is
important to recognize that these employees do work with
Lab-Grenfell in the air ambulance, either as pilots or
at the airport.
Now what we are doing here is
attempting to provide the best possible service. It is
interesting to note - and if you go back through Hansard,
you will see all of the references to inaccurate
numbers; you will see the references to an incomplete
report. The report certainly elaborated on some of the
recommendations made in the Drodge report, but at the
end of the day, they agreed with Recommendations 2 to 7,
and the only recommendation they did not agree with was
the placement of the airplane.
What I said to the people of Lab
West last week in a meeting with approximately 500-600
people there at least, and what I will say to the people
here today, is our decision is made, there will be no
review, the air ambulance will be transferred to Happy
Valley-Goose Bay as soon as possible.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
[Disturbance in the gallery]
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the hon. visitors in the
gallery here, while you are always welcome, you are not
to sure your pleasure or displeasure for anything that
happens on the floor, and I ask you to immediately
refrain from interrupting the proceedings here in the
House of Assembly.
The hon. the Member for the
District of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, during the by-election
last fall, the Premier travelled to the Northern
Peninsula and reversed the decision on the Flower’s Cove
clinic because he heard first-hand from the people of
the region. So, the Minister of Health, as he just
mentioned, held a public meeting just a few days ago in
Lab West regarding health care concerns in that region.
I ask the Premier:
Will he and his minister commit to
coming to St. Anthony to hold a similar meeting that he
can meet with our people in the district and fully
understand the impact their decisions are having on them
and the health care delivery of our region?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Mr. Speaker, during the by-election,
the Premier and myself and other ministers were present
in the area; we heard the concerns of the people in
relation to the health care system. I met extensively,
Mr. Speaker, with the town council of St. Anthony; I
have heard their concerns.
Mr. Speaker, in the last number of
years, I think between 2004 and this Budget, we have
invested, as a government, approximately $12 million to
$13 million in capital equipment alone in the hospital
and the long-term care facility in the St. Anthony area.
We have also invested money in Roddickton, and we have
announced that the new health centre in Flower’s Cove
will proceed.
We are aware of the issues, and we
are acting on the issues as outlined in the Budget.
There is, at this point, no need for a meeting with
anyone in the St. Anthony region.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I guess they said a lot of things
in the by-election they do not mean now.
Mr. Speaker, the government
opposite continues to pour money down the drain in this
Province, yet they refuse to buy things like a third air
ambulance for the people of the Province, or address the
issues in the fishing industry.
My questions today are for the
Minister of Fisheries. The crab fishery in our Province
is affecting thousands and thousands of people. Their
incomes are about to be lost, yet the government is
continuing to insist that they have no role to play in
providing solutions or leading any solutions to the
problem.
I ask the minister:
Given the most manic approach with
respect to the development of the oil industry, the
assistance that your government has given to the forest
industry recently, why have you not been more active in
heading off the crisis in the fishing industry to date?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, I think we have been
more than active in leading this process.
I have to remind the Leader of the
Opposition that the first meeting of both sides in this
negotiation was on March 30 at my request. The first
proposal that we received from either side was not this
Saturday but the Saturday before. Again, that was at our
request. If you look at the offers that we have made
around buying the marketing arm, getting into marketing,
getting into the MOU process whereby we have committed
money, we have committed over and over again.
The issue here, Mr. Speaker, is if
we want to make a change for the long term that is what
it is all about. There was a model put forward Tuesday
by the processors, a model - I would call it the Alaskan
model. It is a model that is used in this Province
around the sale of shrimp, off-shore shrimp and lump
roe.
Mr. Speaker, I think there are
merits of that program that can be worked in this
Province. As a matter of fact, both the FFAW and the
processors work together to bring it forward. The
processors say they can get it working this year, and
the union has some issues with it. I had my staff call
both the FFAW and the processors to say that we are
willing to help out in this. We are willing to bring the
licence fees in line with Atlantic Canada; that means a
commitment of $1.1 million from us. We are willing to
put in cost association with the administration of this
model.
Mr. Speaker, we are doing whatever
we can to get this process through and get this fishery
started.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, the meeting the minister
talked about must have been the famous ten-minute
meeting that lasted on the crab fishery and then it
ended. Mr. Speaker, the reality is, for the past six
months, the only thing that government have done is
called on unions and processors to sit down and to have
discussions. Mr. Speaker, what we are hearing is that
they are bringing nothing to the table, only an empty
briefcase.
I ask the
minister today to lay out for the people of the Province
what his government is prepared to do for investment in
the fishing industry to get this industry going for this
season.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, I have just outlined
some of the finances that we are willing to put forward.
Mr. Speaker, just listen to this: We have had the Dunne
report; we have had the Vardy report; we have had the
Jones report; we have had the Cashin report. These are
reports that people have gone out and looked at why we
find ourselves in this situation every year.
Mr. Speaker, I suppose we could
issue another report, but it does not solve the problem.
Two questions that need to be asked of the people of the
Province: Why is it that every other jurisdiction can
start their fishery on a timely basis? Why is it that
the price of crab in this Province seems to be lower
than in other jurisdictions?
Mr. Speaker, if we are going to
find a solution and get this fishery started on an
annual basis, we have to answer those questions. There
are the three parties that were involved in finding that
solution: That is us as a government - and I outlined
some of the initiatives - the processors and the union.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, that is about the best
admission I have heard from the Minister of Fisheries
that they have no solutions and there is nothing that
they can do.
Mr. Speaker, the fishermen through
their union are asking for about $10 million or $12
million in bridge financing for this season. The
government continues to insist that they cannot do this
because they would be in violation of the North American
Free Trade Agreement. Again, I think it was on Friday
the minister stated this in a press release, and he also
said that he had an external legal opinion.
I would like to
ask him today if he is prepared to table that legal
opinion in the House of Assembly, and has his department
even evaluated what assistance they can provide to the
industry without constituting a free trade risk.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, about the issue of
inventory financing, we think there is merit to it – we
really do - but we cannot put ourselves into a situation
of countervail.
I will invite the Leader of the
Opposition to come over to my office, to sit down and
let us go through that legal opinion and then see if she
is willing to lay it on the line that she is willing to
take the chance of some of the inherent issues that
arise out of that.
Mr. Speaker, this legal opinion is
simply not wishy-washy, maybe, if. This legal opinion is
very, very clear. Mr. Speaker, the solution to this is
not to debate that. The issue is finding the longer-term
solution that makes this fishery better for this
Province, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, the violation of the
NAFTA agreement did not hold this government back when
they expropriated the assets from Abitibi that could
cost the Province upwards to $500 million, Mr. Speaker.
Having said that, I ask the
minister, why all of a sudden
the NAFTA agreement is such an impediment to doing
anything in the fishing industry, the very industry that
could save 20,000 people in rural communities all across
this Province?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, maybe she needs to be
aware that we have stepped in. The reason that Arnold’s
Cove is up and running and doing so well, we as a
government stepped in and bought the quota of High
Liner. We will invest in measures such as that, Mr.
Speaker, but we are not willing to put ourselves at
risk, and simply making the decision could put the
industry at risk for the future, Mr. Speaker. We are not
willing to do that.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, this government based
their decision to move the air ambulance from St.
Anthony to Happy Valley-Goose Bay based on the report
that people who work in the delivery of air ambulance
services call flawed. Mr. Speaker, people from Labrador
West turned up to a meeting by the hundreds last
Thursday, and people from St. Anthony came in protest to
the steps of the Confederation Building today, at their
own cost. Mr. Speaker, this government is dividing the
people of the Province without looking at the
implications of its action. The minister even stood here
today and read from a letter from one of the communities
in Labrador, from the mayor.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the Premier:
Will this government admit that it has made a mistake in
not putting a third air ambulance in place and show
respect to the people of St. Anthony and meet with them
as they have done with others?
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
When this report was commissioned
there was urgency to the situation. That urgency, Mr.
Speaker, was further outlined with the incident that
occurred in Lab West, the unfortunate incident on March
18. What we are trying to do, Mr. Speaker, is to address
the health needs of all the people of this Province. The
numbers, Mr. Speaker, show that there are twice as many
flights being picked up out of –
AN HON. MEMBER:
(Inaudible).
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi, on a point of order.
MS MICHAEL:
The minister is looking at me as if I
spoke. I did not say a word.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MS MICHAEL:
Sorry.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
There is no point of order.
The hon. the Minister of Health
and Community Services, to complete his answer.
MR. KENNEDY:
Sorry, Mr. Speaker, I thought I
interrupted her question. It is hard sometimes to
determine.
Mr. Speaker, what I indicated was
that we looked at the numbers that were present over the
last number of years by accessing those numbers. We
looked at the way the service is provided. We looked at
flight times, Mr. Speaker. The report is not flawed. The
report may not be as comprehensive as the Lab-Grenfell
employees would like it to be and there are certainly
some good suggestions in that Lab-Grenfell report.
Mr. Speaker, what we have to look
at is the advice being provided by experts which say
that two dedicated aircraft, in conjunction with charter
services, can suffice. The two dedicated aircraft, Mr.
Speaker, are best located in St. John’s and in Happy
Valley-Goose Bay. We then have to utilize a charter
aircraft as necessary. We look at the other
recommendations, Mr. Speaker, made in the report that
were confirmed by the Labrador-Grenfell employees, such
as the operation of the twenty-four seven service, Mr.
Speaker, and what we have done here is made a decision
that I would suggest just accords with common sense.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the minister
indicated earlier in Question Period that he had been
touched by meeting with people in Labrador West and by
the experiences that they have had. Well, if he had
bothered to come to the steps of the Confederation
Building today, Mr. Speaker, he would have seen the
stories of people who were helped by having an ambulance
and a medevac team in Happy Valley-Goose Bay, or in St.
Anthony.
So I ask the minister: Why
wouldn’t he come and hear the stories of the people from
St. Anthony and been affected by their stories as he was
last week by the stories in Lab West?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
In a meeting in Lab West last week
there were numerous issues discussed. It was not simply
air ambulance. We looked at the need for diagnostic
equipment. We heard from the residents, Mr. Speaker, in
terms of the need for hospital services. We looked at
all of the issues that affect the people in Lab West.
The issue here today, in terms of the people of St.
Anthony, is to review a decision, which I have
indicated, has already been made and will not be
reviewed.
We feel, Mr. Speaker, that the
decision which is made is the right one. We have not
heard – earlier, I think it was around December 16, the
Member for The Straits referred to the fact: What about
the 603 other flights? Well, we have broke down about
603 other flights and showed that the majority of them,
Mr. Speaker, are responded to by the aircraft out of St.
John’s or by the charter aircraft. So again, to
reiterate, two dedicated aircraft with charter services,
I am told, are sufficient to address the needs of this
Province, and if and when a need for a third air
ambulance is required we will look at that and even
then, when you look at the report, Mr. Speaker, the
numbers indicate that Deer Lake would be the spot for a
third air ambulance and not St. Anthony.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The time allotted for questions
and answers has expired.