MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My questions today are for the Minister of Natural Resources. Mr. Speaker, last week we learned the true nature of government’s bungling of the Abitibi file when they admitted that they accidentally expropriated the mill and other assets and liabilities in Grand Falls-Windsor.

I ask the Premier today: Can you confirm that this mistake was realized in the summer of 2009? I ask you: Who confirmed that this was the case, and why did you not release that information to the public at that time?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier and Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: A couple of things, Mr. Speaker. She has asked a question both of the Minister of Natural Resources and the Premier. I can only speak for myself.

The second piece is it was not just revealed last week due to her questioning in the House of Assembly. We pay attention to the news releases they put out; I suggest they do the same with ours.

I announced this on February 5, and as a matter of fact, there was quite a bit of news coverage right across the Province on the fact that I announced that we had inadvertently expropriated the mill in Grand Falls-Windsor. This came to our attention at the end of May in 2009. It came as a result of work that was being done by a company called Enda Searching. Part of the $8 million you have been asking about was paid to this firm for the land registry consolidation. They found the error, Mr. Speaker, and reported it to us.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, the government knew about this, as the minister says, since May of 2009, and yet they did not release any information until February and no details until the last few days.

Mr. Speaker, this is a mistake that could cost the people of this Province hundreds of millions of dollars. The time for this government’s cavalier attitude has passed, I say to the Premier, and for the rhetoric to be put aside. We have not seen the potential for such a costly mistake in this Province since the Upper Churchill deal forty years ago.

I ask the Premier today: Where was the ministerial oversight, the legal due diligence from what he said when he said he had the best minds in the world on this particular file? I ask: How was such a huge mistake made when all this money was being paid out for lawyers and legal advice?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Natural Resources.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we have heard the Leader of the Opposition, over the last week, make a number of wild claims about the costs of this to the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. I would like to know where she is getting her figures and what is it that she talking about, because we certainly do not understand it on this side of the House.

Mr. Speaker, it is a principle in all of our environmental legislation, as well as in the expropriation legislation with regard to the mill in Grand Falls-Windsor and all the properties that we expropriated from Abitibi that the polluter pays. So, we have not taken on any responsibility for remediation by this action.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

It is obvious that the government knew about this for well into ten months before releasing it to the public. It is obvious that they are not even reading the information that they are filing in their own court documents, I say to you, Minister, because that is where I am getting my information.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Premier today, because he clearly stated in the briefings and the media interviews at the time that the mill and the associated liabilities would not be expropriated. I ask him today: How could his government make such a blunder and absolutely a wrong decision in expropriating these liabilities?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

This government clearly takes responsibility for an error that was made. Now, Mr. Speaker, we do not make mistakes on purpose.

MS JONES: Expensive error.

MS DUNDERDALE: She says an expensive error. Please tell us how it is an expensive error. Mr. Speaker, the polluter pays and under no circumstance will we be responsible for remediation that Abitibi is responsible for. That is the bottom line.

Mr. Speaker, we made a mistake. We expropriated 1.6 million hectares of land. We expropriated a generating facility that was attached to the mill in Grand Falls, in fact, you had to go through the mill to get into the generating plant.

Mr. Speaker, on the side of caution we erred and we ended up expropriating parts of the property that we did not intend to. Our original intention was to return that to Abitibi via legislation in this House. We are prevented from doing so by the CCAA process.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The minister knows that it remains to be seen if the polluter pays or the people pay as a result of this mistake.

Mr. Speaker, is it true that the government accidentally expropriated half of the Town of Grand Falls; and, if this is the case, I ask the minister, or the Premier as well, if they can tell us what other assets and liabilities they have accidentally expropriated in this mistake.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Mr. Speaker, inadvertently we expropriated the mill, the manager’s house and Grand Falls house. These were the properties - it was not our original intention to expropriate, but that is what happened in terms of the legislation.

As I said, Mr. Speaker, in my last answer, originally we were working towards returning that property to Abitibi through legislation here in the House of Assembly.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS DUNDERDALE: The CCAA process, Mr. Speaker, does not allow us to do that. So, right now we have secured the property, we are looking after the property, and we do not have any intention of disposing of the property in any way at this time.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, the Quebec courts have already ruled that this government’s attempt to be reimbursed for Abitibi’s environmental liabilities is disingenuous. The comparison is that if you take somebody’s land and assets then send them the bill to clean up the property that you took. At least that is what the courts are saying and seem to think in the documents that I have looked at.

Now we know the Province is appealing, but I ask the Premier today: Can you explain why you are expecting AbitibiBowater to submit an environmental remediation plan for properties that they no longer own?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Mr. Speaker, I would have thought that a thoughtful Opposition might have posed that question when we were briefing them back in December.

Mr. Speaker, our legislation tells us that the polluter pays. Now, Mr. Speaker, we know that Abitibi is not interested in remediating the mess that it left behind in Newfoundland and Labrador. In fact, Mr. Speaker, we are seeing a move in the CCAA process where Abitibi is trying to take its properties from Botwood and Stephenville, put them in a subsidiary and bankrupt that subsidiary in a hope that it might relieve them of their remediation responsibilities. They are properties we had nothing to do with.

Mr. Speaker, at the end of the day, through all of the ins and outs of that, we might end up with remediation that really is the responsibility of Abitibi that we may end up having to do, but it will not be as a result of this legislation.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

How soon the government forgets, but those questions were asked, I say to the minister. Mr. Speaker, so were a lot of other questions, including this one. The potential $500 million NAFA bill and the cost of the environmental liabilities have yet to be tallied but the people of the Province could have a significant bill on their hands.

I ask the Premier today: What happened to your commitment that this expropriation deal would be a net zero cost to the people of the Province?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Deputy Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, we are not finished the process yet. As I stated earlier, Mr. Speaker, we have 1.6 million hectares of land, formerly belonged to Abitibi. We have generating facilities on the Exploits River that we have. We have assets. The Leader of the Opposition is flinging numbers around left and right. She is not being held accountable on where she is coming from on any of them. She was here in the House last week talking about $500 million that we owe Abitibi. Mr. Patterson himself publicly stated that his high number was $300 million. She does not know what she is talking about, Mr. Speaker, but that is no surprise to anybody over here.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

The minister knows the information that I put out there in the public has come from the documents that have been filed in the courts on both sides. I say to the minister today, Mr. Speaker, she knows that the bill to the people of this Province is going to continue to grow on this file, and I ask her to come clean today, tell the people of the Province how much this is going to cost them.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MS JONES: Tell them! Come on, tell them now –

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask members for their co-operation. Members cannot ask questions and sit in their seats and shout while the answers are being given. I ask members to the back of the hon. minister to listen to the answers.

The hon. the Deputy Premier.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MS DUNDERDALE: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the Opposition shouted across this House yesterday: Abitibi lies on your shoulders, Premier, the full responsibility of it lies with you. Mr. Speaker, that is a responsibility that we embrace. At the end of the day our position will prove itself out, in terms of value that we have and what we have to expend. That is not talking about the intrinsic value, the importance of having those assets remain in Newfoundland and Labrador for the use of Newfoundlanders and Labradorians. We are not second guessing ourselves on this side of the House, Mr. Speaker, we did the right thing.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: I guess we are going to embrace the bill too, Mr. Speaker, at the end of the day, probably for thirty or forty years on the backs of the people of this Province.

Mr. Speaker, yesterday we learned that this government made another significant mistake, as they like to call it, that will cost the people of this Province $5 million for errors related to salaries at the College of the North Atlantic in Qatar. Within days of each other, Mr. Speaker, government admitted that they accidentally expropriated the Abitibi mill in Grand Falls-Windsor, and now we find that they have overpaid some employees and they owe the State of Qatar millions of dollars.

I ask the minister today: How can such careless mistakes happen and why is this becoming a trend of the Williams government? Where is the due diligence on behalf of the people of this Province?

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I remind hon. members that Question Period lasts for a half an hour. There are important questions to be asked and important answers to be given. Members should not be shouting or interrupting while either one of those processes are taking place.

The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Mr. Speaker, first of all, let me start by saying the member opposite obviously has not done the research on this and has no idea or comprehension of the issue we are dealing with.

I made a release yesterday that fully disclosed to the Province an error that has been made to the tune of approximately $5 million. I also made it fully clear that this is not a decision of government that made this error; it was a decision made by the College of the North Atlantic which is an arm’s-length corporation of government, Mr. Speaker.

I also say to the member opposite, Mr. Speaker, that if she were to read the legislation she would understand very clearly that I am taking my role as minister very seriously and government is taking this issue very seriously. We are reacting as we ought to do. Perhaps, Mr. Speaker, the hon. Leader of the Opposition would like me to react as the Leader of the NDP suggested yesterday, to abdicate my responsibility and to forget the fact that there is a $5 million price tag on this. Well, I say to you, we are not prepared to do that. We are prepared to work with the college to solve this problem and we are prepared to find the answers to it. We are not prepared to do as the Leader of the NDP suggested yesterday, to wash our hands of the solution and back off and leave the taxpayers in limbo.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, the minister wants to talk about research but who is the one who had to go back to the mikes three times yesterday to try and clarify the information on this issue? Minister, maybe it is you who should be doing your research.

Mr. Speaker, the minister is saying that this is an arm’s-length from the government; that it is not our mistake, but, Mr. Speaker, this government is accountable for the operations of those institutions in our Province. Mr. Speaker, in contrast to government’s response to the Abitibi blunder in which there was no scapegoat, they absolutely found a scapegoat yesterday.

I ask the minister: Why was Ms Madill so quickly departing from her job?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Again, Mr. Speaker, I will try and take us back and talk about the facts and move away from the rhetoric that comes across from the other side of the House.

The fact of the matter is, Mr. Speaker, what we announced yesterday is that we would do an external review for the purpose of trying to determine exactly where the College of the North Atlantic made mistakes that led to the error that has been identified. We work collaboratively with them, Mr. Speaker, to try and find the solution to the problem, and I say, Mr. Speaker, not unlike we have done many times in the past. For example, it is only about a month and a half ago, Mr. Speaker, when the former president of the college decided, without the proper authority and authorization, to sign a one year extension to the current contracting tender, that we work with them to find out why that decision was made independent of the process that was expected and we opt to solve the problem.

I also say, Mr. Speaker, that the series of events that have occurred in the last five days, some have been in my control and some have not been in my control. I can only say to the member opposite that I received, at 4:00 o’clock on Friday, a letter of resignation from the former President of the College of the North Atlantic. Any details that surround why that person chose to submit their resignation, that question, Mr. Speaker, ought to be put to that individual.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Mr. Speaker, according to a memo that was circulated by Ms Madill herself, it basically said that she was instructed to be out of the college and off the campus by 4:00 o’clock yesterday afternoon by the Department of Education.

I ask the minister: Were those orders issued through his office?

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Mr. Speaker, at 4:00 o’clock on Sunday I received a letter of resignation from the President of the College of the North Atlantic. The President of the College of the North Atlantic said to me, as the Minister of Education for this Province: I no longer have an interest in working for this government and in working to provide leadership to the College of the North Atlantic.

Mr. Speaker, upon receipt of that, I acknowledged that the intent of the former president was made to me and I gladly accepted her resignation. Mr. Speaker, absolutely yesterday, as any position of that nature would be addressed, when the intent was made aware to us, the person ended their employment with us yesterday and we will proceed. Currently, the deputy minister will act for a few days, Mr. Speaker, but we will proceed and we will fill that position, Mr. Speaker, but we will fill the position with somebody who has the interests of this Province and the interests of the College of the North Atlantic and more importantly, Mr. Speaker, somebody who wants to do the job.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.

MS JONES: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Will the minister admit that it was this issue around Qatar and also the actions of the government that prompted Ms Madill’s resignation?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

MR. KING: Mr. Speaker, as I have said on a number of occasions, I can only repeat myself and say to the member opposite that the whole purpose of the actions of this government over the last twenty-four hours was to make the public fully aware, first of all, to fully disclose that an error has been made by the College of the North Atlantic. We have done that, Mr. Speaker, and we recognize that it is a huge responsibility for us to uphold the accountability of the College of the North Atlantic and make sure that we make the public aware of what is happening. We have done that, Mr. Speaker, and we made those intentions known to the senior executive and the President of the College of the North Atlantic.

Now, why the College of the North Atlantic former president decided to resign is a question that she can answer. It is not one that I am going to even speculate on. I can only say to the member opposite, if she is interested in listening to my answer, is that those are the series of events and this government is going to move forward. We will put somebody in there who is interested in providing the leadership that we need for that college, Mr. Speaker.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of The Straits & White Bay North.

MR. DEAN: Mr. Speaker, I rose in the House yesterday to highlight the issue of government’s poorly made decision to relocate the air ambulance from St. Anthony, and it is an issue that continues to be less than acceptable and tolerable to the people of my district.

I rise today to highlight another failure by this government, and that is to provide financial support to kick-start the crab fishery. Mr. Speaker, there are 13,000 people approximately that live north of River of Ponds to the end of my district; 2,300 of those have a direct connection to this fishery getting underway.

I ask the minister: If he would explain why government is not willing to provide immediate and short-term help to these 23,000 people, or have you and the Premier –

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask members for their co-operation.

The hon. the Member for The Straits & White Bay North, if he would like to pose his question.

MR. DEAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Would the minister explain why government is not willing to provide immediate and short-term help to these 23,000 people or have we again been forgotten by this government?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, what I see more and more in this fishery is frustration, total frustration that on an annual basis they find themselves in this situation.

Mr. Speaker, a short-term solution is not the answer. Mr. Speaker, some short-term solutions have been the Vardy report, the Cashin report, the Dunne report, the Jones report and, Mr. Speaker, what do we find? We find ourselves back in the same situation.

Mr. Speaker, I have come up with a word that I think would truly reflect what needs to come out of this fishery, total exposure, Mr. Speaker. In order to make changes within this industry, the total fishing industry needs to be exposed and see what needs to change. We are not dealing with the root cause of the problem in this fishery, Mr. Speaker, and that is what my intention is and that is what the intention of this government is.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of The Straits & White Bay North.

MR. DEAN: Mr. Speaker, there is a very significant and important short-term issue, and that is the fact that it is now three weeks since some of those people have had an income. A long-term solution will not provide short-term help to these people.

Mr. Speaker, the urban-rural divide is alive and well in this Province. Provincially, there are 20,000 incomes that depend on the fishery and yet this government refuses to invest in the industry in the short-term to get the season underway.

I ask the minister: If there were 20,000 jobs that were at risk in St. John’s today would this government be willing to invest to ensure that those jobs would be protected?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, I have to say to the member opposite, before he got in government I was on an EPC trip to his district where one of the businesses that we invested in was his, Mr. Speaker. That is the investment to rural Newfoundland and Labrador.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, yesterday we announced a $1.4 million commitment to the removal, or the balancing of processing fees to processors. Not a lot of those, Mr. Speaker, are located on Water Street. They are all located in rural Newfoundland and Labrador.

Mr. Speaker, take a look at what we offered. We have offered - in the fishing industry renewal we offered to buy the marketing arm. The Minister of Transportation and Works offered last year to establish a marketing council, and, Mr. Speaker, we put $800,000 into the working of the MOU. Mr. Speaker, we are doing everything we can to see that this industry changes, and, Mr. Speaker, in the long-term we will make that change.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of The Straits & White Bay North.

MR. DEAN: Mr. Speaker, I would like to say, as an entrepreneur, that I have been trying to create jobs in this Province and I would suggest that other people might want to do similar, might want to consider dealing -

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

If members are going to continue to interrupt while questions are being asked and while answers are being given, the Chair will have no other choice but identify the members that are causing the disruption and disorder in the House, and the Chair will certainly do that if it continues.

The hon. the Member for the District of The Straits & White Bay North.

MR. DEAN: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

Yesterday in the House we asked the minister to table the external legal opinion he uses as a reason not to assist the industry. He failed to do so, and today we are giving him the opportunity to make this document public.

Minister, will you table this report and indicate whether it was an opinion that was solicited by government, and if so, when was it requested and received?

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Fisheries and Aquaculture

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. JACKMAN: Mr. Speaker, I do not think it would be due diligence if we did not check into the possibilities of what could and could not happen.

Mr. Speaker, the important thing here right now is that we have to get the two sides, that being the FFAW and the processors, together and arrive at the price.

More importantly, I put out an invitation yesterday to the leader of the FFAW and the Leader of the Opposition to come in and review these documents. I am pleased to report that Mr. McCurdy, at 9:00 o’clock this morning, came and reviewed those documents. The Leader of the Opposition and no one across the way has even countered my offer.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

Mr. Speaker, my questions have to do with the situation at the College of the North Atlantic with regard –

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

I ask the Leader of the Opposition, the Member for Gander, and the Minister of Labrador Affairs for their co-operation.

The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

My questions are related to the issue that we have at the College of the North Atlantic with regard to the mistake that was made. Mr. Speaker, one result of this situation so far, besides the fact the Province now owes $5 million, has been the resignation of the president. Very little detail has been released on what has actually happened. Mr. Speaker, the former president has said that she cannot be supportive of the manner in which the Government of Newfoundland and Labrador handles issues related to the college.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Premier, how exactly has his government been dealing with the College of the North Atlantic.

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

First of all, let me correct an error in the member’s preamble. The Province does not owe $5 million. First of all, the $5 million is an approximation; and secondly, it is an error on behalf of the College of the North Atlantic, not the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador. I think the member needs to understand that very clearly.

Secondly, the member is asking what exactly this government has done. Mr. Speaker, I say to you, what this government has done is within a matter of four days we have acted to call for an independent review to try to determine all of the details that people want to know about why this happened, and to make changes so that it does not happen in the future.

I say to the Leader of the NDP: Would she rather that we did as the Opposition Leader would want us to do and hide the $5 million, and walk away from it and not let the public know that there was an error made? We are not prepared to do that, Mr. Speaker. We are prepared to take real leadership and to act on the issue.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: The hon. the Member for the District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.

MS MICHAEL: Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.

I am really glad to know that the minister understands the difference between the government and the college because, obviously, a big mistake was made at the college. It is also the responsibility of the president and the CEO to deal with mistakes, whether they are big or small.

Mr. Speaker, the implication of the letter distributed by the former president is that she was not enabled by government to deal with the error that happened. She says she has all of the responsibility and none of the authority.

Mr. Speaker, I ask the Premier why his government did not let the president of the College of the North Atlantic manage her own institution.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Oh, oh!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The hon. the Minister of Education.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. KING: Thank you, Mr. Speaker.

For the second question in a row, let me correct the member opposite. The former president does not own the College of the North Atlantic; it belongs to the people of the Province of Newfoundland and Labrador.

Mr. Speaker, for people who are in the gallery or watching this at home, I think that we need to remind people this is a very serious issue, and let me just remind the member opposite what has transpired here.

An issue was brought before me as the minister and before us as government that indicated that the College of the North Atlantic and employees therein made an error to the tune of approximately $5 million, a number of which will be confirmed. The reasons upon which that error was made will be confirmed through an external audit that this government has called, Mr. Speaker.

Let me remind the member opposite when she asked the question about what we are doing, we have called the review because we want to find out what has happened here, why the decisions were made and why we arrived at this error.

The second thing, Mr. Speaker, that we are committed to doing is we are committed to putting mechanisms in place in collaboration with the college so that on a go-forward basis we do not get put in this situation. I say to the member opposite, we take the responsibility very seriously and that is why we are where we are today.

SOME HON. MEMBERS: Hear, hear!

MR. SPEAKER: Order, please!

The time allotted for questions and answers has expired.