MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, yesterday the
Ministers of Justice and Natural Resources issued a news
release that said the people of the Province would not
be responsible for environmental liabilities associated
with Abitibi properties that were expropriated. I have
to question, based on that comment, if either of the
ministers has read the recent court decision on this
matter in which the Province lost that case.
In the recent Environmental
Protection Act case the judge ruled in section 202, and
I quote, "In all fairness, a regulator can hardly
pretend to realistically order that a ‘person
responsible’ carry out actions upon properties that it
no longer owns." The judge also stated in section 208 of
this case, "The Province, as owner and occupier of the
lands, is clearly a ‘person responsible’ under s.99 of
the EPA."
I ask the minister today:
How can you continue to say that
we are not on the hook for this case, when the courts
clearly state that we are?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, our Environmental
Protection Act, as well as Bill 75, state quite clearly
that the polluter pays, regardless of who owns the
properties. That is the principle that we maintain. That
principle is why we are asking for leave to appeal the
ruling in the CCAA process.
Mr. Speaker, we know that
AbitibiBowater will do everything that it can to relieve
itself of its responsibility to remediate its properties
here in the Province. Mr. Speaker, our own legislation
protects us here in this Province from that happening if
something happens in terms of the broader law.
Mr. Speaker, in terms of the
numbers that are being tossed around, hopefully, I will
have an opportunity to deal with that as we move along
in Question Period.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I would like to
ask the minister to table for the House the sections of
our EPA legislation and the sections of Bill 75 that
says that the polluter pays.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Mr. Speaker, this information is
available on-line, but I know that the Opposition from
time to time has challenges, and we will certainly
provide the sections to the Opposition on the issues
that they have just requested.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The judge also stated in another
court challenge, known as the Data Room case, and I
quote, "The Court notably concluded that the Province
had not yet provided reasonable and convincing evidence
in support of its alleged status of potential creditor
for environmental problems resulting from Abitibi's
economic activities."
I ask the minister today:
Why didn’t government complete its
due diligence to support our claim before bringing it to
the courts?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier and
Minister of Natural Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Mr. Speaker, there is a process that
the Minister of Environment has outlined time and time
again in this House in terms of how the costs of
remediation are arrived at. Those orders are provided to
the offending company in case this time - in this case,
AbitibiBowater. They are told what is required of them.
They come back in response to those orders and from
their response we are able to determine the cost of the
clean up. AbitibiBowater has not done that, Mr. Speaker,
and they continue to try to avoid their responsibilities
with regard to environmental cleanup here in the
Province.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
There is no explanation as to why the
Minister of Environment did not do her job and complete
the due diligence prior to the court case.
Let me ask this question, Mr.
Speaker, I refer to the data room case which we also
lost in the Quebec courts related to Abitibi. Under
questioning in the House of Assembly in December,
government stated that it would not be proceeding with
the case because they felt Abitibi had insufficient
funds. In actual fact, Mr. Speaker, we have now learned
that government had pursued the case and they lost the
case and were ordered to pay all the legal fees of
Abitibi.
So I ask the minister today:
Why did you say that we were not
pursuing the case, instead of stating upfront that we
had lost it because we did not provide any evidence to
support our claims for taxation, severance and
environmental liabilities?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, I think again the hon.
Leader of the Opposition should do a little bit more
homework. The case was pursued, Mr. Speaker, and lost.
End of story. We did not take any further action
following this court decision and we could not get
access to the data room. We were pursuant up to that
stage. When that decision was made we did not go any
further and that is the position we took in this House.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, on December 9, when I
questioned the Minister of Justice in the House of
Assembly with regard to these claims he did not say that
they would not go to appeal. In fact, this is what he
said: With regard to the action on CCAA claims of monies
owing to the Province, the position of the government is
that we are not pursuing these claims because there are
insufficient funds.
At no time,
minister, did you state that we had pursued a case, lost
a case, and was not appealing the case again. Why is
that?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, I really do not know
where the hon. Leader of the Opposition is coming from.
The response in the House was a response that came from
a decision that was made in the Quebec court. The Quebec
courts, CCAA did not allow us entry to the data room.
Based on that decision, we made the decision there was
no point in pursuing claims any further because the cost
of pursuing the claim would be more than money we will
get back. That was our position.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Now that we know that government
did pursue the case, did lose the case, chose not to
appeal the case, I would like to ask them to tell us:
How much these court cases cost,
what were the third party costs, and how much are we
paying out for Abitibi’s legal costs here?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
the Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, I do not have those
figures at my fingertips and I do not know to what
extent we have them in my department. The costs of
Abitibi were JV’d to Natural Resources. The actual
breakdown in these figures, I do not have at the moment.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I would like to
ask the minister, if he could get those costs and
provide us with the information?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, any information that we
can disclose under the circumstances, considering the
fact that proceedings are ongoing, we will disclose.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
In light of the conclusions of the
courts in two of those cases, there appears to be no
requirement that AbitibiBowater clean up their former
properties or submit a remediation plan.
I ask the minister today:
As the current owner of these
properties, what are your responsibilities to complete
such a remediation plan and to outline the costs
associated with cleaning up these sites and the actions
required for such work?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we take issues of the
environment very seriously and our Environmental
Protection Act is very clear. It is based on the
principle of polluter pays, Mr. Speaker. We have not
taken the position that Abitibi is off the hook for this
and that is why we are seeking leave to appeal the
decision of the Quebec court. That leave will be heard
on May 12, and we are going to pursue all the legal
options that are available to us to ensure that these
properties are brought back to the state that they were
found in when Abitibi came here.
Thank you.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
On March 24, 2009, the Minister of
Environment stated, "our department is doing an
inventory of all of the environmental issues. That could
range anywhere from logging camps to bridges and to the
mill itself. Certainly, the mill will have to undergo an
environmental assessment process through the
decommissioning of their mill, as was done in
Stephenville." She said, "The member can rest assured
that all environmental issues will certainly be
addressed." We are seeing a different picture today,
minister.
I ask the minister today - because
I questioned her last week on whether the inventory and
the costing of these environmental liabilities have been
completed. I ask the minister today:
Has this been done and, if so, are
you prepared to provide it?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Well, Mr. Speaker, at least on
this one she has her dates right, because she stood up
in this House yesterday and talked about my comments in
the House in December 2008 and left this House yesterday
with the impression and tabled the notes from that date
when in actual fact it was of March, 2009. The fact that
this House was left to believe that I was still here on
December 28 was totally unacceptable, Mr. Speaker. I did
say that in March of 2009.
We take the issues of the
environment very seriously. We are aware of the
environmental issues and that is why we continue to
pursue this case. We are seeking leave to appeal to the
Quebec Court of Appeal, and, Mr. Speaker, we are going
to seek every legal avenue possible to make sure that
this environment is brought back to the state that
Abitibi found it in when they came here to do business
here.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I have no problem, Mr. Speaker,
admitting I made a mistake in the date and I got the
minister’s date wrong, but I can guarantee you, I did
not make any $500 million mistake on the backs of the
people of this Province.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask members for their
co-operation.
I ask the Leader of the Opposition
to direct her remarks to the Chair.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I say to the minister, that my
mistake is not going to cost the taxpayers of this
Province. The truth is, Mr. Speaker, she said the
comments, she made the commitment –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the members to my left to
please allow the hon. member to ask her question.
MS JONES:
They should all be ashamed of
themselves, Mr. Speaker. They should be ashamed of
themselves, I say.
I ask the minister:
Did you do what you committed to
do sixteen months ago? Did you do the costing? Did you
do the inventory on the environmental liabilities
associated with the expropriation of AbitibiBowater?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, speaking of being
ashamed, this member had the perfect opportunity when
she stood up in the House yesterday and tabled the
Hansard, she had the perfect opportunity at that time to
stand up and say she made a mistake. She did not do it
at that time and left this House to believe that I was
up here giving incorrect information. That was her time
to do it, but I accept the fact now that she has
accepted that she made a mistake.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The Chair is having difficulty
hearing the hon. Minister of Environment and
Conservation.
MS JONES:
You did not do your job and you know
it.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. minister.
MS JOHNSON:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, the minister obviously
is not going to tell us whether she did what she
committed to do sixteen months ago or not. We know, Mr.
Speaker, that she failed to provide the information
under the Environmental Protection Act in the court case
and, as a result of it, we have lost that case.
Mr. Speaker, if government does
not have the analysis done of the cost associated with
AbitibiBowater’s environmental liabilities, I fear that
we may even be facing even more concerning issues in the
months and years to come.
I ask the minister, in the spirit
of openness and accountability:
Can you provide any information
within your department as to what the total price tag of
Abitibi’s environmental liabilities is to the people of
this Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, when she cannot get the
facts right and she does not do the right research then
she turns to fear mongering. That is the tactic that we
see here.
I have said time and time in this
House and in media reports for her to review that in
order for us to get the actual –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS JOHNSON:
- cost of the remediation, Abitibi
has to submit a remediation plan. That was all spelled
out in the orders. They have one year to do so. They
already had a great piece of the work. So one year to do
that was not unrealistic.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS JOHNSON:
Until those remediation reports come
into us and we are satisfied with them in the Department
of Environment, that environment will be brought back to
the standard that it was when Abitibi came here to do
business and to benefit from our resources, only then
can we give an actual cost.
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Maybe, Mr. Speaker, the member might
like to read her own Environmental Protection Act as
well which defines persons responsible, and she will
find out that the owner is of a substance or a thing.
That was written right in her own act.
Obviously, no answers, let’s see
if we get some answers here. When they do not do their
job, Mr. Speaker, or they want to cover things up, they
do not want to give you answers.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, since the government
expropriated the assets of AbitibiBowater, it has been
revealed that government also expropriated some of the
liabilities, as we all know - hundreds of millions of
dollars of them. Government has stepped up to the plate,
they have covered off the employees’ severance payments
so far and they have lobbied the federal government to
ensure the viability of employee pensions. One group
that have been left out are the local contractors who
accepted work at the mill site once the mill closed, and
these contractors are now out hundreds of thousands of
dollars.
I ask the government, now that you
are the employer, now that you own it all:
What are you going to do to ensure
that these contractors are paid?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Innovation,
Trade and Rural Development.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SKINNER:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, again, the premise
upon which the question is asked is a false one. We were
not the employer. We did not engage any contractors to
do any work. We did not issue any contracts to any
people to perform work. Therefore, we have no obligation
to the people who did the work on behalf of
AbitibiBowater.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, the courts are saying
that you own it. You guys know that you own it. These
contractors were commissioned to do work on your
property, and now, Mr. Speaker, they are out the money.
I ask the government today:
Who is going to cover the bills of
these contractors who acted in good faith, took on a
contract in good faith, and deserve to be paid?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Innovation,
Trade and Rural Development.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SKINNER:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the member opposite
is half correct. She is correct in the assertion that
they were asked to do work. She is correct in the
assertion that they performed work. What she is
incorrect in is that she is trying to imply that the
Government of Newfoundland and Labrador asked that that
be done, and that is incorrect.
What is correct is that they were
asked to do that by AbitibiBowater. The answer to the
question as to who is responsible for the payment for
the work that was performed, the answer to that question
is the –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. SKINNER:
– person who asked the work be done,
the company that asked the work be done, and that
company was AbitibiBowater.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I would like to clarify for the
minister that I never said that the government hired
them. I said you own the property, they were hired in
good faith, they went to work in good faith, they are
doing the work on your property that you own, and
I ask you today to do the right
thing, pay those contractors the more than $300,000 that
they are owed.
MR. SPEAKER:
Further questions?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask members for their
co-operation. If there are questions asked, obviously,
the minister to whom the question has been directed has
been unable to hear the question if there was a question
asked.
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
As usual, Mr. Speaker, they are not
listening. If they were, they would have heard the
question.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the member to pose her
question.
MS JONES:
The question was quite simple, Mr.
Speaker. These individuals are
out there, they have completed work on your property and
they are owed more than $300,000. Will you pay the bill?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The member cannot ask questions,
sit down and then continue to answer by shouting at
other people across the floor.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
Important questions are asked, and
I call on the Deputy Premier to answer the question, but
when members ask a question, please allow the answer to
be given and vice versa.
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, when we expropriated
the assets of AbitibiBowater in Central Newfoundland, we
did so on behalf of the people in Newfoundland and
Labrador. While the members of the Opposition might have
bailed ship, which is no surprise - I have to tell you,
quite honestly, I was surprised they got on in the first
place.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Mr. Speaker, it was the absolute
right thing to do.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the hon. member to complete
her answer.
MS DUNDERDALE:
Mr. Speaker, we have invested tens
and tens of millions of dollars in Central Newfoundland
since the closure of that mill. We were able to do
things like over $30 million in severance because we own
the assets. Mr. Speaker, members of the Opposition are
throwing numbers around all over the place in the last
few weeks. If we own the assets, and because we own the
assets, they do not have to pay remediation costs -
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS DUNDERDALE: -
then we will deal with it from the
assets, but we cannot be paying them for the assets and
then paying them for remediation at all. The whole
premise of their question is ludicrous.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Yesterday, in the Justice budget
Estimates committee the minister confirmed that the
pre-detention correctional facility for women and youth
that was intended to be constructed in Happy
Valley-Goose Bay was placed on hold indefinitely. There
was not a single public statement or release, Mr.
Speaker, that this project had been stopped.
I ask the minister:
Where is the openness and the
transparency of your government, and why did you hide
such important information?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of Justice
and the Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
At least the Opposition House
Leader has modified his language somewhat today.
Yesterday he said to the media that it was scrapped.
Mr. Speaker, there was never ever
any intention in this department or this government to
hide, or conceal, or renege on any commitment to the
people of Labrador. This government responded to the
pre-detention needs of Labrador by investigating a
number of models and options to work with, which we are
still evaluating.
That now, Mr. Speaker, is being
done in the context of re-evaluating all of our
correctional needs, those pre-detention needs, and all
of the needs that fit in that overall picture. When we
are comfortable with that overall picture, Mr. Speaker,
we will make a decision as to what option we will go
with and where we spend our money.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we all know the
circumstances that demonstrated the need for this
facility. We saw those stories in the news; women being
held naked in cells for days; teenagers being denied a
shower while they were in custody. The Citizens’
Representative for this Province even presented
government with a report demonstrating the necessity of
constructing a new facility.
I ask the minister:
With the demonstrated need, the
need already proven that has been clearly presented to
your government, why are you now taking such a backwards
step and cancelling this facility?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
the Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
On the contrary, Mr. Speaker, we are
taking a very forward step. We are doing an internal
review of all of our correctional needs. Mr. Speaker, we
have taken a new direction in recent times because we
have come to the conclusion that the feds are not
on-board with respect to a federal prison. So now we
have to look at our correctional facilities to see what
option we can follow to get the best arrangement that we
can get.
The Labrador situation, Mr.
Speaker, is very much a part of that and will be a part
of the whole picture when we discuss it and when we come
to some conclusions. We hope, Mr. Speaker, by the end of
this year to be able to discuss what options we need to
do, where we need to go, how we need to look at our
whole correctional system to see what investments we
need to make in it. We have some serious challenges, Mr.
Speaker, in our correctional system. We have to make
some detailed decisions of where we are going to go in
them.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the current minister
stated in a response to a question from myself in this
House on November 30, "I can tell this House that this
government is committed, in public committed to
correctional facilities in Happy Valley-Goose Bay, and,
at the present time, the discussions are ongoing with
regard to that pre-detention centre."
I ask the minister:
If this facility was such a
priority for government, acknowledged to be such a
priority, committed to, how can you justify leaving the
women and youth in such substandard correctional
conditions for the future?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
the Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, this government, since
the Decades of Darkness report, has spent upwards of $5
million on corrections. We have invested, Mr. Speaker,
heavily. We have brought to some level of progress
seventy-three of the seventy-seven recommendations in
that report.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
We have invested $5 million, Mr.
Speaker. We have invested in programming; we have
invested in services; we have invested in training, both
in mental health for our correctional officers and
mental health services for our inmates. Mr. Speaker, we
have contracted with various service providers. We have
spent millions and made tremendous strides as a result
of the Decades of Darkness report, including the
correctional institution in Clarenville which deals with
women. Mr. Speaker, our commitment is unquestionable
with regard to corrections, and the people of Labrador.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I hear the Minister of Labrador
Affairs over there blaring. Well maybe he can answer
this one. A Ms Beals, Executive Director of the Status
of Women for Goose Bay, was in the media last night
advising that she spoke to the Minister of Labrador
Affairs just a few weeks ago and was advised by the
Minister of Labrador Affairs that this facility was
going ahead.
I ask the Minister of Labrador
Affairs: Were you aware that
this project had been cancelled or were you simply
misleading the people when you spoke to them?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of Justice
and the Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, the need has been
clearly identified in Labrador. It has been clearly
identified. Mr. Speaker, there is no commitment here.
There is no decision on the part of the government to
abandon or sell out the people of Labrador, as has been
suggested by the Opposition. Mr. Speaker, Labrador is
very much part of our plan, our internal review and will
continue to be so.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, last week the
Minister of Health was in Labrador West to meet with
residents with regard to the health care needs. Mr.
Speaker, the minister said he was moved when he spoke to
the families who had been affected by air ambulance
delays, but, Mr. Speaker, being moved is not enough.
There must be action -
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of Signal Hill has been identified to ask a
question. I ask members to kindly listen to the question
and allow the answer to be given.
The hon. the Member for the
District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Labrador West is a highly
industrialized area that needs immediate access to air
ambulance. Mr. Speaker, just over a month ago a worker
in Lab West died waiting for an air ambulance. We will
never know if there could have been a better outcome for
the Perry family in Labrador West.
So, Mr. Speaker, I ask the
minister: What is he going to do to address the serious
need for a permanent air ambulance in Labrador West to
ensure injured workers have necessary access to
emergency medical services?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
One of the reasons that we hired a
consultant to look at the issue of the placement of the
air ambulance was because of the competing dictates that
were being put forward. We had the Town of St. Anthony
saying leave it where it is. We had the town councils of
Lab West saying we need it over our way and we had Happy
Valley-Goose Bay saying we want it in our town.
So, what happened, Mr. Speaker, we
looked at the consultants report and a determination was
made that by moving it to Happy Valley-Goose Bay it
would be a more central location. On the night, Mr.
Speaker, that I attended the public forum, one of the
local doctors indicated that he needed access to
Quebecair to charter a plane to deal with obstetrical
emergencies. I said: do it. I instructed, Mr. Speaker,
the next day when I spoke to the local doctors, I
indicated anything I could do to help improve air
ambulance services to Lab West I would do. Yesterday,
Mr. Speaker, I met with the provincial director of air
ambulance and the chief paramedic and asked them to talk
to the doctors in question in Lab West and to come up
with a plan that would allow for the solving of the
problems in terms of the quicker dispatch to the Lab
West area. We are working on that, Mr. Speaker. It is
obviously a very difficult situation and we are trying
to please a lot of people here.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
I will be looking forward to
hearing a report from the minister on the discussions
that are going on.
Mr. Speaker, it was brought to my
attention yesterday afternoon that the executive of the
College of the North Atlantic in Qatar called an
emergency meeting to talk about new contracts with
employees who have been affected by the mistakes made in
their salaries. They were told that these new contracts
would be offered to them starting today. Mr. Speaker, at
this meeting staff asked if the overpayment errors had
been addressed. The college executive said yes but would
not disclose the details.
So, Mr. Speaker, I ask the
Minister of Education: If he can tell the House why the
information is being hidden from the staff, and indeed
from all of us?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It is a very interesting question
coming from the individual yesterday who said that I
should back away and leave the issue to the college. Now
she wants me to provide the information on the dealings
with the college.
I will endeavour to remind the
member opposite, as I did yesterday, that it is this
government who has taken quick and swift action on the
error of the college and what has been identified. We
put a process in place, that we will review what has
gotten us to this point in time. We have also met this
morning – myself and my Deputy Minister met with the
executive team of the College of the North Atlantic for
Newfoundland and Labrador and I want to certainly
reassure the people of this Province that the college
system is in good hands. We will go through a seamless
process of transition as we move to bigger and brighter
things and to continue to grow the college and work with
the college.
We will also move very quickly, as
the member has alluded to, Mr. Speaker, to deal with
employees of the Qatar campus. As I mentioned in my
press release, we have contracts that are up for
renewal, Mr. Speaker, and we will follow the due process
that we have …
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
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