MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
My question is for the Minister of
Natural Resources. Minister, on Tuesday of this week in
Question Period when responding to a question regarding
Abitibi and how you found out about the blunder
government made in expropriating the mill, you
referenced Enda, a searching company here in St. John’s.
Will you
undertake to release to the public immediately and table
in this House the report and the supporting documents
provided to you by that searching company?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources and Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, we did hire Enda
Searching to do the land consolidation registry, to move
the land from Abitibi’s name to the Crown. Mr. Speaker,
I will go back and I will get the documents and whatever
can be tabled here in the House, I will be more than
glad to do it.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you.
Mr. Speaker, the minister refused
in the Estimates Committee – the Minister of Natural
Resources that is - and here in the House of Assembly
recently, to provide details about the $8 million
government has spent so far with respect to the Abitibi
issue. The minister advised, at that time, the
Opposition to file an FOI request, which we have done.
In the public
interest and for openness and transparency, will you at
least undertake to disclose immediately the name of the
law firm or lawyers who provided advice to government
regarding the NAFTA implications of Bill 75 prior to
Bill 75 being introduced in this House in December of
2008?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Mr. Speaker, some of the problem we
have in dealing with the Opposition is they have such
difficulty in getting information correct. I have not
done my Estimates yet, Mr. Speaker, so it would be very
difficult for me to refuse to provide information in
Estimates when they are not due to take place until May
17. However, Mr. Speaker, I will undertake to make
available whatever information that we have in terms of
the $8 million professional fees.
Mr. Speaker, I have said time and
time again we are not trying to cover anything up here.
We are being completely straightforward. We are saying
what happened and what the circumstances were that led
to the circumstances we find ourselves in at the moment.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Minister, the Department of
Justice routinely, every year, gives a listing when
asked by the Opposition of all legal fees that are paid
to any lawyer for work outside of the Department of
Justice, no questions asked. We asked it last year and
received it, asked this year again and the minister is
in the process of compiling that information.
Why are you
refusing in your department to release the information
about the $8 million that you paid to lawyers for
Abitibi so far?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I just undertook to
make available all of the information that we could
without interfering in any kind of way with proprietary
information or whatever. Whatever can be released, we
are going to release.
Mr. Speaker, all of the $8 million
are not legal fees. Enda Searching is part of the $8
million, which I told the Leader of the Opposition
during Question Period this week. CRA, which did work
around environmental remediation, particularly as it
pertained to Buchans, is part of that $8 million. So it
is certainly more than legal fees. Again, Mr. Speaker,
whatever we can make available we will certainly make
available.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
My final question for this minister:
Minister, can you confirm that
there was indeed legal opinions requested and obtained
by your government with respect to the implications of
NAFTA prior to introducing Bill 75 in this House in
December of 2008?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources and Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Yes, Mr. Speaker, we asked a variety
of questions. Let me point out once again to the
Opposition House Leader, Mr. Speaker, that we shared
what we had learned up to that point with the Members of
the Opposition when we were about to introduce the
legislation. Whatever we had, what we had been advised
that NAFTA implications might be, in our briefing
meeting with officials that took place in the Opposition
caucus room, Mr. Speaker, we shared whatever information
that we had at that time.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
For the record, at no time during
any briefing was the Opposition provided with copies of
any legal opinions that this government had obtained
with regard to NAFTA. I just want that on the record,
for the record.
Mr. Speaker, my next question is
for the Minister of Education. Minister, earlier this
week the President of CNA resigned. There has been some
confusion given the multiple explanations as to what
precipitated this action. We were first told that CNA
has mismanaged their payroll and benefits to the tune of
$5 million. We are later told that last month the
college signed a one-year extension to the Qatar
contract without proper authority and authorization.
Would the
minister explain how these two items are related, and
were they both involved in the sudden resignation of the
president?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, I do not think the
confusion is in the explanations I have provided, it
might be in the interpretation the Opposition has put on
the explanations I have provided. I have been very clear
on what has transpired.
In the first instance, the issue
of the one-year contract extension, I made it very clear
last week, or last Question Period, when I talked about
our relationship in working to support the college. I
provided that as an example of an issue that we
encountered as a government, and we worked and provided
support to the college president and to the college
executive team in spite of protocols not having been
followed by the president at the time. In spite of the
president doing this of her own accord, against the
protocols and the expectations of government and the
college board, we worked with them to resolve the
situation. I offered that, Mr. Speaker, as an example of
the kind of support that this government has provided to
the college system.
The second item, Mr. Speaker, I
have also been very clear upon, is that the resignation
came to me at approximately 4:00 o’clock Sunday past and
I received it while I was en route back from my district
to here. There was no discussion with me, between me and
the college president. I have been very clear about
that. There is no confusion from this side of the House
on what transpired there and we announced it shortly
thereafter.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you.
Mr. Speaker, earlier this week the
Minister of Education challenged the Opposition to go to
the former president and find out from her what caused
this resignation. As you well know, minister, the former
president of CNA is subject to a gag order which you
placed in her employment contract.
I ask the minister:
In the public interest and to
ensure complete openness and transparency, would you
agree to remove the gag order and allow Ms Madill to
tell her side of this resignation?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, certainly I do not have
to stand here and talk to the Opposition House Leader
about contracts and about legal law and how you
interpret legal law. Certainly, Mr. Speaker, I do not
have to stand here and explain that in Question Period
today to the hon. member opposite, I am sure of that,
but I will, if you would like me to, Mr. Speaker.
Let me give a little quick history
lesson, the senior contracts that are signed by
officials with this particular government, with senior
bureaucrats and officials of the College of the North
Atlantic or school boards or health boards or any other
organizations, Mr. Speaker, that we are engaged with,
are no different than they have always been. We did not
invent the wheel on that. There have been many previous
governments who have employed senior officials with the
same kinds of contracts. So certainly, Mr. Speaker, a
former Minister of Justice ought to recognize why that
clause is put in place and why it will stay there.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I remind the minister that it is
not me he has to explain anything to it is the people of
this Province. I guess from his answer, the answer is
no, he is going to keep the gag order on the former
president.
Mr. Speaker, minister, you had
told us that CNA overcharged the Qatar government $2
million for administration and there was a $3 million
salary overpayment. What, and
who, caused these overpayments, and why are we not
seeking reimbursement of the $3 million salary
overpayment?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, I hate to have to repeat
myself over and over in the House of Assembly here but
the member opposite keeps asking the questions that
require the same answer. This government has taken a
very proactive step in calling for an external review.
If I had the answers to all the questions that the
member is posing, there would be no need to do a review.
As a matter of fact, Mr. Speaker, we would have all the
problems solved. We do not know why the events occurred.
This government did not make the decisions that put us
in this situation. Under the leadership of the former
President of the College of the North Atlantic, that
group made the decisions that put us where we are today.
Now I will gladly, gladly share
with the public, as I have already said, anything that
we find out that we can do to rectify this problem and
correct it so that it does not happen in the future. The
member opposite is quite welcome to that information
when I become in possession of it, Mr. Speaker, but I do
not have that. That is why we have called for an
external review to look at the whole situation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The minister cannot speak out of
both sides of his mouth. He says on the one hand, we are
doing a review and we will give you the answers. He has
already publicly announced that we will not seek
reimbursement of this $3 million. So you have obviously
made some conclusions already, before you get back the
very report you are talking about.
Now, minister, we have seen this
government chase people for workers’ compensation
overpayments, social service overpayments, and school
tax that have been outstanding for decades, yet you are
refusing to go after this $3 million which you
acknowledge should not have been paid.
Would you explain the logic of
this decision and why it is okay to write-off $3 million
of the taxpayers’ money?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, let me say this, that I
will gladly stand here today and use logic in my
explanations if I thought the member opposite would
actually understand logic. What is very clear from the
last three days’ line of questioning, Mr. Speaker, that
logic is not the rule of the day here, and leadership on
the other side is not the rule of the day.
Perhaps, Mr. Speaker, that is why
they are coming back from the political grave today in
the name of a former Premier who lost to the leadership
on this side of the House in the election of 2003,
because they did not have what it takes to provide
leadership to this Province. Well that is what we are
doing. That is why we are reviewing the situation, and
it is why we are going to get to the bottom of it, and
it is why we will fix it!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Now maybe that we are past the
rhetoric, maybe the minister would like to give the
people an answer to my question.
Why are
you not seeking repayment of $3 million, which you
acknowledge should not have been paid out to this staff
in the first place? Maybe we can have a
straightforward answer, without the rhetoric.
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of
Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I will try to be as
straightforward in my answer as I always am. It becomes
very challenging when you provide a straightforward
answer and it is not understood by the member opposite,
Mr. Speaker.
What I have said are the facts as
we know them today. The $3 million the member
references, for the record, let me just say that it is a
very, very ‘unfirm’ number. I have talked about $3.5
million, $4.5 million but I have also said, Mr. Speaker,
we have shared those numbers to give people of the
Province an idea of the magnitude of this problem, to
make sure that the whole issue, from my perspective, is
very open and very transparent.
I could easily do what the Leader
of the NDP wanted me to do three or four days ago,
washed my hands of it, abdicate my responsibility, walk
away, pretend it never happened, write-off the $5
million and perhaps do as my colleague the Minister of
Tourism would say, add it to the NDP debt clock. I could
have done that, or I could have done what the Leader of
the Liberal Party asked me to do which was the complete
opposite.
Well, Mr. Speaker, we are taking a
responsible action here and when we determine what
exactly has transpired here, and when we determine the
appropriate actions that need to be taken; we will take
them. Until such a time as we have the information to
draw the appropriate conclusions, I am not prepared to
stand here and speculate for a bit of political
posturing on the other side of the House.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It is nice to see that the
Minister of Education thinks letting $3 million go down
the tubes is a bit of political posturing. It looks like
he is not prepared and will not give the people of this
Province an answer. We will find the answer; we will
find out why. This is not over yet.
I will move on at this point, Mr.
Speaker. The Premier was in Ottawa this week for
meetings. While he was there, we certainly hope he
visited suite 1604 on Metcalfe Street, also known as the
empty office of the Province’s Ottawa representative, as
the empty space is costing the taxpayers of this
Province almost $100,000 a year in rental expenses.
I ask the Premier, the position of
the Ottawa representative has been vacant since January:
Is there any necessity to be
throwing tax dollars away for the position that has
proven to be totally ineffective?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, during that trip I
really did not have time to put my feet up and have a
cup of coffee in the office, to be quite honest with
you. From the time we landed until the time we left, we
were very, very busy. We went through an extremely
successful group of meetings.
I met with Minister Strahl with
regard to Aboriginal issues and actually dealt with the
Innu issue and the lands claim agreement and facilitated
an upcoming meeting between the Innu Nation and the
federal government. That will take place, hopefully,
within the next couple of months.
Then, we left there and went to
the House of Commons where we were very well-received,
favourably received by all parties in the House of
Commons which is very nice. Then proceeded to an
in-depth meeting with the Prime Minister and discussed a
broad range of issues commencing with the fisheries, and
the Lower Churchill, and Coast Guard and rescue and a
host of issues.
Mr. Speaker, because of his time
frames, we then moved on to another meeting and moved to
the meeting with the Minister of ACOA, Keith Ashfield,
and discussed funding for the Province with regard to
the Atlantic Gateway, the Northern Gateway and a lot of
other issues. Then, met with the minister responsible
for the Province, Peter MacKay, and started with
discussions on Labrador, 5 Wing Goose, Search and
Rescue, and, again, another host of issues, and then
finished up with a very, very fruitful meeting with the
Minister of Finance with regard to the acquisition of
the eight point five interest in Hibernia.
So, no, I did not have time to
stop at the Ottawa office.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I appreciate the Premier’s update
as to who he did see there. Obviously, he did not go by
1604 Metcalfe.
Mr. Speaker, it has been reported
by The Telegram on a recent visit to Ottawa that
newspapers were piling up by the door and there was no
presence at this office. Meanwhile, there is $378,000
budgeted for this office this year, including a support
worker making $54,000 a year.
I ask the Premier:
What is the current status of the
office? Is there anyone still on the payroll there, and
if so, what are they doing when we do not have a
representative in Ottawa?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, we still have a presence
on the ground in Ottawa, as the office is staffed. We
are maintaining that office because that office has been
very useful for meetings when ministers attend in
Ottawa; they use it on a frequent basis.
I had conversations in Ottawa
whereby people in Ottawa on the ground spoke extremely –
very, very highly of Dr. FitzGerald, who is referred to
as Dr. Feelgood by the Opposition. I refer to him as Dr.
Sealgood because of all the fantastic work he has done
with regard to promoting the sealing industry in Ottawa.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
So we intend to maintain that office.
We intend to keep it there. We think it is very, very
important that we have a connection. We think it is also
very, very important that when ministers go to town that
they have a place where they can operate out of. In
fact, we will be looking in the very near future then to
recruiting to have that position refilled.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Both New Brunswick and Manitoba
closed their offices in Ottawa. It is certainly obvious
that our office has had very little impact as the past
few years have represented the most strained
relationship our Province has ever had with the federal
government.
I ask the Premier:
Are you prepared to follow the
lead of these other provinces, let the Minister of
Intergovernmental Affairs do his job, save the taxpayers
of this Province some $400,000 a year, finally admit the
experiment did not work, and close down the office?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, I can tell the hon.
member opposite what I am not prepared to do. I am not
prepared to give up fighting for the interests of the
people of Newfoundland and Labrador.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Time and time again we have
aggressively challenged Ottawa on major issues of
importance to the people of this Province. The first
round that we had with the former Liberal government, we
came back with a cheque for $2 billion, so I would think
–
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
I would think our balance sheet is in
pretty good shape at this stage, but we do intend to
fight for the interest of the people of the Province,
but at the same time we have also proven during the last
round, which we consider to be a goodwill round, met
with all the senior representatives of the federal
government, all of the ministers were made available to
us on reasonable notice, they were prepared to discuss
any issues of importance to Newfoundland and Labrador,
so I think at this stage, as a result of our efforts in
fighting for Newfoundlanders and Labradorians we have
the respect of Ottawa.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I say to the Premier, I would not
crow too loudly about the Accord money these days. By
the time we get Abitibi settled there might be none of
it left.
Mr. Speaker, we requested travel
claims for the former Ottawa representative through FOI
and we were charged significant fees; however, we did
pay for his 2007 travel claims to get a glimpse of his
activities. As outlined in the documents, the former
Ambassador charged the people of this Province
seventy-two taxi trips from his private residence to
work. There is nothing in his employment contact that
permits such claims and no other public servant is
permitted to claim travel to and from work each day.
I ask the Premier:
Why did your office sign off on
these travel claims, and do you consider it an
appropriate expense to be reimbursed by the taxpayers?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, now that the hon. member
opposite has raised it let’s talk about the Abitibi
exercise and let’s talk about what we have done with
regard to Abitibi.
The hon. member opposite knows, he
is a lawyer, he is trained, he knows what the
consequences would have been if we, in fact, had not
acted on the Abitibi file. If, in fact, we had stood
back and had not stepped in when we did and had not
expropriated the property, one of two things would
happened, either the property would have been sold and
the assets would have gone outside the Province, and the
people of the Province would have no say or no interest,
or otherwise they would have entered into a
receivership, or a bankruptcy, or a consumer protection.
At that point as well, the assets of the people of
Newfoundland and Labrador, our timber, our land, our
water and our infrastructure would have been gone. We
would have been left, however though, with the
environmental responsibilities and we would have been
left with the responsibility that we had to the workers
in Grand Falls-Windsor, Botwood and all the surrounding
areas.
What we did, Mr. Speaker, because
we had those assets, we, in fact, will be in a position,
if we have to, to do the environmental cleanup. We have
put nearly $50 million into severance and the hon.
member opposite has stood up and has – knowing the
difference – said that dealing with Grand Falls and
dealing with the Grand Falls mill we have incurred
liabilities, environmental liabilities of over a couple
of hundred million dollars. That is just absolutely
untrue – untrue.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I guess we will see at the end of
the day when all the court dust has settled on the court
cases as to what we actually are going to be on the hook
for.
I will just ask the Premier:
Would you like to give us an
answer to my question about the taxi fares of Dr.
Feelgood?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, it is obvious the
priorities of the Opposition. You know, we are here
today – we have a fishery that is being dealt with, that
is very, very important to all the people of this
Province, to all the communities in the Province. Have
we heard a question on the fishery today? Not a
question.
AN HON. MEMBER:
No, not one.
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Do you know what the hon. –
AN HON. MEMBER:
(Inaudible).
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Maybe you will make some up now. Well, good for you if
you make some up out of it after.
What the hon. member opposite is
concentrating on today is the Ottawa representative
getting a drive in bad weather from his office to the
House of Commons where he does his business. Now if you
want to concentrate on taxis, then fill your boots, but
I have more important things to do.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of Port de Grave.
MR. BUTLER:
Mr. Speaker, we have been speaking to
concerned residents of Bell Island relating to the
disruption of their ferry service in recent weeks. While
there are a number of issues being raised, the immediate
question of residents is when will the Beaumont Hamel
be returning to service?
I ask the minister, Mr. Speaker,
when will the refit be
completed and will the Beaumont Hamel be
returning to the Bell Island run?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Transportation and Works.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. HEDDERSON:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
In response to the question from
the member opposite, the Beaumont Hamel right now
is into the last inspection stage. She will be back
within the next couple of days and back on the Bell
Island run.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Port de Grave.
MR. BUTLER:
Mr. Speaker, the motor vessel
Captain Earle W. Winsor, which currently services
Fogo Island, Change Islands is apparently due to go on
dry dock for maintenance at the beginning of May. This
is causing significant concern for many people,
considering that the crab fishery only started a couple
of weeks ago in that area and tourist season is about to
begin. The spring and summer months, Mr. Speaker, would
be the absolute worst time to take the Winsor out
of service.
I ask the minister:
Why is the Winsor being
pulled out of service at a time that is particularly
disruptive to the ferry users and will you consider
delaying the refit to the fall months?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Transportation and Works.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. HEDDERSON:
Mr. Speaker, I am well aware of the
challenges that we as a government have in dealing with
the current ferry fleet that we are managing, and
managing as well as we can. Again, it just kind of irks
me a little bit, Mr. Speaker, to get up and to have
someone from across the way talk about ferries when the
last ferry that was built, the last two really, were
under the Peckford Administration. For fifteen years
this former Administration ignored this fleet and left
us with a legacy of trying to manage. We are doing as
best we can under the circumstances. Of course, you also
know on the other side that we have made significant
investments. As a matter of fact, $55 million in this
particular Budget to try to deal with the issues that we
have.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. HEDDERSON:
So, I say, Mr. Speaker, I am working
very closely with the people in Fogo to make sure that
we are doing everything we can with what we have to
ensure, not only service to the people, but that
economic piece as well. We have worked out with the Fogo
committee a schedule that will certainly address their
particular concerns.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, in January, Eastern
Health informed the public that they had developed a
plan to deal with the rheumatology outpatient wait-list
because of the impending loss of a doctor in May which
will bring them down to four. As a result, 1,000 people
with chronic non-inflammatory symptoms were dumped on
family doctors who do not have the expertise or time to
deal with these individuals. Rheumatologists say this is
not a good change. Though there are four rheumatologists
at present, in practice the rheumatologists say there
really are only 2.5 of them doing full-time clinical
work because of teaching and research commitments. Also,
their workload will increase astronomically because we
have a rapidly aging population.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister of
Health and Community Services: What immediate action is
he taking to recruit rheumatologists?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
As I have indicated on many
occasions in discussions in this House about health
care, it is a very emotional issue, it is one that
affects people’s lives; it affects everyone on a daily
basis. The issue, Mr. Speaker, also relates to
politicians and the people who serve in this House.
We know from what has gone on with
the air ambulance – again, the height of the emotion. I
say to the Leader of the NDP, I understand that in a
Facebook Web site that was put up in St. Anthony, in
talking about the Premier, that an NDP candidate of
record suggested that the symbol for the Web site should
be a black heart with a bullet hole in it. Is this the
kind of action that is supported by the Leader of the
NDP or is she going to do something about that? That
would be my question to her, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker -
Mr. Speaker, I asked a question of
the minister and he has not answered it.
Mr. Speaker, there are 89,000
people in the Province suffering from some form of
arthritis. The outpatient wait times are 9.6 months for
someone with an acute inflammatory condition or
forty-two months for chronic non-inflammatory condition.
Successful management of this debilitating disease needs
prompt treatment. Delays mean peoples’ conditions will
worsen. Mr. Speaker, we have a serious situation with
regard to people suffering from the various forms of
arthritis.
This minister has not answered my
former question, so I have to ask him: How can he
continue to do nothing in the face of the suffering of
so many people in this Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of Health
and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, on March 30 I met
with Brenda Kitchen, the Executive Director of the
Arthritis Society and we discussed this issue of the
shortage. We had an appointment set up with Dr.
Hamilton, one of the rheumatologists, but he could not
make it that day. So, Mr. Speaker, we are taking steps.
In relation to an allegation we
are doing nothing, is what is the Leader of the NDP
going to do about that candidate of record who made this
comment that the Premier should have a - the symbol
should be a black heart with a bullet hole in it? Do you
support that position?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I remind the hon. members again to
address their comments to the Chair, not to individuals.
Further questions?
The hon. the Member for the
District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, governments across
the country, including our own, are starting to expand –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MS MICHAEL:
Mr. Speaker, I want to make one comment before I go on
with my question. I am not responsible for the behaviour
of people outside of this House of Assembly. I am
responsible for myself, and I will not…
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The time for Question Period is
getting nigh. If the hon. member has a question I ask
that she pose it now.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, governments across
the country - including our own - are starting to expand
medical schools now after years of ignoring the problem
of doctor shortages. The unfortunate thing, Mr. Speaker,
is that these new spaces will not produce doctors for
another ten years, and in the case of rheumatologists it
is twelve years.
I ask the minister: Considering
the toxic environment government has created around the
doctors’ negotiations, what are his department’s plans
for being able to recruit doctors to this Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I am glad that the Leader of the
NDP mentioned the expansion to the medical school. That
is a very important step that we have taken, and one
that I understand Dean Rourke was on with Randy Simms
today speaking very positively about.
Mr. Speaker, in the last year, in
2009-2010, we had nineteen family practice residents, of
which seventeen are going into practice. Fourteen are
practicing in this Province, so we have retained
fourteen of them. Twenty-seven specialists, Mr. Speaker;
and, of the twenty-five going into practice, seventeen
are practicing in this Province, so we are retaining
specialists.
Mr. Speaker, again, when she asks
what the government is going to do about things, what is
she going to do about that site and the allegation or
the insinuation that the Premier should have a bullet
hole through his heart? Is that the kind of policy
supported by (inaudible)?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
Time allotted for questions and
answers has expired.