MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, today is Oceans Day
and we know how important our ocean environment is to
the people of Newfoundland and Labrador. The current
catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico demonstrates how
fragile our oceans are and the importance of necessary
precautions, especially when balancing the risk of the
oil and gas industry. We have questioned the government
extensively over offshore drilling in the Orphan Basin
and today I would like to ask the Minister of
Environment to outline the protections that are in place
for oil shipping lanes in Placentia Bay.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister
today, because according to comments made by the Mayor
of Placentia there is no emergency management plan in
place to address a spill in Placentia Bay, and I ask her
today: Why hasn’t government
implemented such a plan.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I hope my voice holds
up here - but in terms of Placentia Bay, Mr. Speaker,
that is under the jurisdiction of Transport Canada.
Certainly, the Department of Environment and
Conservation is involved. We participate in the SmartBay
project. We participate - we have a voice on the REET,
the Regional Emergency Environmental Team.
Mr. Speaker, we certainly consult
with the communities on all of the environmental issues
and as it goes through the environmental assessment
process we participate and are certainly aware of that,
Mr. Speaker, but this is under the jurisdiction of
Transport Canada.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, this is about the only
Minister of Environment that I have ever seen that will
have nothing to do with the environment, but I say it
did not stop them in 2003 in the Progressive
Conservative Blue Book, Mr. Speaker, to committing to a
full strategy on the environment for Placentia Bay, I
say to the minister.
Well, this is an area of the
Province, Mr. Speaker, that has supported a vibrant
inshore fishery for well over 400 years, and, Mr.
Speaker, fishermen have stated that a spill in Placentia
Bay could destroy their livelihoods, and
environmentalists have stated that a spill of any
magnitude could wipe out the seabird population in Cape
St. Mary’s, and we all know the impact that oil has on
land once it reaches shore, minister.
I ask the minister today:
Is there a comprehensive plan in place to immediately
deal with a spill, should one take place in Placentia
Bay?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, there is one thing that
she has right, and that is that we have the jurisdiction
in the Department of Environment and Conservation should
the oil, in the unlikely event, that should the oil
reach land then it does come under the Department of
Environment and Conservation, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, when we came into
government in 2004 we saw that there was not one plan in
place, not one procedure in place, not one person hired
to deal with should there be an oil spill that reached
shore, Mr. Speaker. That is why we immediately consulted
with the industry, talked to other jurisdictions, Mr.
Speaker, and actually hired somebody in the department
so that we would have a policy in place should it reach
land. That is under my jurisdiction. That is something
that I oversee and that is something that we are working
towards, but, Mr. Speaker, all of the other things that
she is talking about in the bay, while we do participate
and we are very interested and very concerned, Mr.
Speaker, they are not in the jurisdiction of the
Department of Environment and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
You have over 500 fishing
enterprises in that area. You have one of the busiest
areas and ports in North America for that kind of
business, or at least in Canada, Mr. Speaker, and you
have the mayor out there saying that we do not have a
strategy or a plan in place, and you, minister, are part
of a government that in 2003 committed to put that
strategy and that plan in place without ever saying at
that time we have no responsibility for the environment,
Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister
again today: Will there be a
comprehensive strategy implemented, as her government
committed to seven years ago?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, we certainly consult
with the FFAW. They have been in my office for certain
meetings. Vale Inco is one of the projects that also
have impacts on Placentia Bay, and my understanding is
the mayor also wrote on that particular project and was
very supportive of that project, which could also have
cumulative impacts on Placentia Bay. So consultation
does take place. The Minister of Fisheries and
Aquaculture and I meet about Placentia Bay. As I said,
we are involved in SmartBay, which is one of the most
comprehensive projects that are in place in all of
Canada. It is a very comprehensive committee, and we
certainly participate in that Mr. Speaker. Anything that
the Department of Fisheries and Aquaculture and myself,
as minister, and certainly DFO, can do to ensure the
safety of the fisherpeople and the environment in that
bay, we will certainly do that, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Seven years, no strategy, as was
committed to by the government opposite. Yet, we know
that Placentia Bay, Mr. Speaker, is adjacent to the main
transatlantic shipping routes between North America and
Western Europe, and we know the traffic that occurs
there.
Mr. Speaker, in 2007, and again in
2010, Transport Canada performed an oil spill risk
assessment for the South Coast of Newfoundland. It
estimated that a spill in the range of 10,000 barrels
will likely occur within the next thirty years.
I ask the minister, because I am
sure you do some work with your counterparts – or I hope
you do, the federal government:
What actions were taken in
conjunction with your federal counterparts to address
the alarming findings that were in both of those
reports?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, as I said, SmartBay is
one of the most comprehensive projects that is going on
in Canada right now. The purpose of the SmartBay is to
look at all of the ecological aspects of the committee.
People from the Placentia and surrounding areas are
involved. My department - there are officials there from
my department. There are officials from the Department
of Fisheries and Aquaculture; there are officials from
Transport Canada and the Department of Fisheries and
Oceans, Mr. Speaker.
Certainly, when projects like this
are filed environment comes to the forefront, and that
is something that we are very committed to protecting is
the environment. There is all kinds of development not
just the transshipment facilities, there is Vale Inco,
there was the proposal for the second refinery, and
there was expansion to the current refinery. We look at
cumulative effects in all of this, Mr. Speaker, and that
is what the environmental process is all about, it is
ensuring at the end of the day that (inaudible).
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
During consultation on various
industrial projects in Placentia Bay, and the minister
just mentioned a couple of them with regard to the Inco
smelter and with the second refinery proposal, which
never materialized, but anyway, Mr. Speaker, concerns
were raised about the lack of safeguards and early
response measures for potential oil spills even at those
times, Minister.
I ask you today:
Are there sufficient human
resources and capital infrastructure available within
the Province, particularly in the Placentia Bay area, to
detect and immediately clean up a large scale spill?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, there are different
levels of oil spill response. I understand that the
member and the Opposition had a briefing about the oil
spill response. There are Tier 1, Tier 2 and Tier 3
responses. There is the ECRC in terms of a spill of up
to 10,000 barrels. Mr. Speaker, above that, we certainly
have the Coast Guard who also responds to spills. All of
those policies are in place and plans are in place.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
We are being told that one of the
pieces of infrastructure required to respond to a large
oil spill in the Placentia Bay area would be an ocean
going tug. We are also told that the nearest tug to this
Province would be located in Halifax.
I ask the
minister if that is true and if there is a strategy, in
the case, again, of a large oil spill in Placentia Bay,
what is the process to respond to it?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, I am trying to do my
best to provide information that I have in speaking to
my counterparts within the federal government, but, Mr.
Speaker, these questions are really better suited to be
asked to the federal government. So, I suggest that she
get in contact with the Minister of Transport Canada.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Absolutely unbelievable, Mr. Speaker,
that the Minister of Environment in this Province cannot
answer the questions on how they would respond to an oil
spill in Placentia Bay that affects the fishing
industry, every other industry that surrounds the ocean
including the bird population, Minister. You should be
ashamed today to stand in this House and even say such a
thing, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, environmentalists and
the mayor of Placentia have been very vocal about the
lack of response capability in Placentia Bay. Currently,
equipment needed to respond to a spill is located in St.
John’s and Halifax, and there have been concerns
expressed about the impact that this could have on
response times.
I ask the minister once again:
Since Transport Canada has
concluded in both 2007 and 2010 that Placentia Bay was
most at risk of having a spill, have there been any
changes made to the location of response equipment in
the Province?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of
Environment and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, the member can get all
worked up all she wants. It is not within my
jurisdiction. I am trying my best to help her with the
information that I have. It is not our equipment that is
in the area. It is not our equipment; that is owned by
the Coast Guard. I can certainly give her the
information I have, but again these questions are better
put to somebody else.
It is not to say that we are not
concerned about the environment or that we do not
consult with our federal counterparts. Mr. Speaker,
these are not my questions. I am trying my best to give
her the information. She can get all worked up as she
wants, but we all have our own jurisdictions to be
responsible for and the questions she is asking –
MS JONES:
I cannot believe it (inaudible).
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS JOHNSON:
While she is saying she cannot believe it, she was a
former Minister of the Crown –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS JOHNSON:
– she would know what she is responsible for in her
certain department and, Mr. Speaker, that goes true for
any minister of this government.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, yesterday on the
Fisheries Broadcast, the Member for Baie Verte-Springdale
stated that he is quite confident that the licence for
Little Bay Islands would not be transferred out of the
community.
So I ask the Minister of Fisheries
today: As you have the final
say on such a transfer, are you ready to provide the
same assurance to the people of Little Bay Islands
today?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, I am sure the member
that represents Little Bay Islands, as would the Member
for The Straits, would like to see things remain in
their communities, but as the member representing Little
Bay Islands pointed out, he informed the people in his
community of the process and they will present the
information to the licensing board, then the licensing
board will make the recommendation that comes forward to
me, as minister. Then, Mr. Speaker, I will either accept
or reject it.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, the former Minister of
Fisheries rejected a recommendation from the fishery
licensing board just last year and we know the final
decision ultimately rests with the minister.
So I ask the minister again:
Are you willing to ease the minds
of the residents of Little Bay Islands and assure that
this rejection or this request for transfer will be
rejected, or is this really just an indication that the
MOU rationalization really has begun?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, I swear to God they do
not want to see this MOU process working. On three or
four occasions now the member opposite has got up, in
their statement tomorrow, and said that there is no
progress that has been made.
Mr. Speaker, I have outlined to
him time and time again the meetings that we have made,
the input that the FFAW, the ASP, SPNL have all brought
forward. Mr. Speaker, we are hoping for a positive
result that comes from the MOU.
As to his issue around licensing,
Mr. Speaker, we have a licensing board in place. I
intend to allow them to do their work and they will
bring forth their recommendations based on the
information that is submitted to them, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits &White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Let me say first of all that we
certainly do hope the MOU process brings us a good
solution. I have said that before and I will say it
again. What we do not see is this government giving the
leadership to the MOU process that is required.
Mr. Speaker, last month the
community of Jackson’s Arm, again, abruptly heard the
news that it was losing its shrimp plant that some 120
people would be out of work. Earlier this week, I
understand the minister met with union representatives
at the union’s request to discuss this critical issue.
I ask the
minister if he and his department has had discussions
with the owners of the plant on their decision for this
year, and if government has received or indeed requested
a written confirmation that the plant will operate next
year for those people.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, the member may not be
aware of this, but on Friday past, I visited his area. I
went to New Ferolle; an issue that he has raised from
time to time. I, as minister, and we, as government,
have no problem meeting with any groups that represent
fish plants or communities across this Province. We
indeed did meet with the representation from Jackson’s
Arm. We have asked them to provide us with some
information. The company has indicated that they will
not open this year, but they have not said that this is
definitive and that the plant will not open the
following year. They are making business decisions based
on current economic conditions and cuts to quotas.
Mr. Speaker, we will continue to
work with the community to find the best resolve that we
can to this situation, like we do in all situations.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, for the sake of the
facts, New Ferolle is not in my area; it is in the area
of St. Barbe. Also, ICO does not operate the plant in
St. Anthony either; nevertheless, the fishery is in
crisis in this Province right now, and not every plant
worker or community has the luxury to wait for the MOU
process, and that is the point we are trying to make.
I ask the minister:
In the absence of any short term,
long-term plans for the fishery by this government, are
you prepared to implement a response measure that will
provide income for plant workers at communities like
Jackson’s Arm, because there will be another community
next week and so on, and just as importantly, provided
at levels of incomes that they are used to earning?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, he indicates no short
term, no long term. I do not know if there is any other
term in between there, but, Mr. Speaker, let me assure
the member opposite that the members who represent the
communities that he mentioned, we have set - the
Minister of the Department of Human Resources, Labour
and Employment, we have met with her. We are in the
process now of having her officials go and make contacts
within these respective communities and we will roll out
the plan as we have in other communities, Mr. Speaker,
who have faced similar circumstances.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we also met with
these plant workers yesterday and they are simply
astounded by what is happening in their community, and
rightfully so. We understand that, and they are looking
for some assistance from this government beyond what
they termed as being make-work programs.
I ask the minister:
We will not talk about long term
and short term, but what is the long-term strategy for
dealing with these plant closures outside of the MOU? As
we wait for the MOU process to develop, where is the
long-term strategy? Are we willing to provide early
retirement programs? Are we willing to look at worker
adjustment programs, community infrastructure money and
so on, that will allow these communities to attract new
opportunities and give them a sense of hope?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, he is right in saying
one thing, that the people who come in to meet with us
in communities that are faced with this challenge,
rightfully so, they face a tremendous challenge. Any
time that happens to a community there are
repercussions. We certainly sympathize and we are
willing to work to the extent that we can with them.
Mr. Speaker, we have an MOU
process that is in place. I hope that the member
opposite is not suggesting that we start another process
outside of the MOU. We have the groups at the table that
can make a difference in this fishery engaged in this
MOU process, Mr. Speaker, and I am certainly hoping that
as a result of that process, we will have a stronger
fishery in the Province in the future, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, again, either
intentionally or unintentionally, it seems to be
misunderstood. I am not suggesting another process of
the MOU. Again, I will state that we are in support of
the MOU, but many of these workers that we met yesterday
suggested to us they have two or three weeks of
unemployment left, they have been waiting for their
plant to open, we know the plant is not going to open,
and they are looking to government to give some
assistance, some direction as to what they can expect in
their communities.
Again, I ask the minister:
What is the plan?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, despite the challenge
that some of these communities face, in terms of plant
workers, Mr. Speaker, we have stepped up for plant
workers time and time again and we will do likewise in
the situations that we have before us right now, Mr.
Speaker, I can assure you of that.
Mr. Speaker, in the long term, as
I indicated I believe here in Question Period last week,
I met with the chair of the MOU and I directed him to
have something to me by January 11, which is the
anniversary of this process. Mr. Speaker, shortly after
that, I asked that we have something submitted in
writing. So, if we can have that put before us, Mr.
Speaker, hopefully that will lay out the direction for
the –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, I cannot – she is
shouting at me, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I guess that is not unheard of in
this place, when somebody shouts at you.
Anyway, yesterday, Mr. Speaker, I
asked the Minister of Business about the graving dock
for Marystown, given the federal government’s
announcement of the two new $35 billion contracts that
were going to be let over the next number of years. The
minister responded that there had been conversations
between him and the people in the Marystown area and
that government would step up to the plate if there was
some infrastructure that was needed and if they were
successful in the bidding process. I say to the
minister, the graving dock is needed, not after the
contracts are let and awarded, minister. The graving
dock is needed in order to make them successful in the
bidding project.
I ask you again:
After years and years of
conversations and consultations, is this government
prepared to commit to a graving dock so that they can
enhance their chances of being successful, and if so,
when are you going to tell the people of Marystown?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Business.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. WISEMAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I said yesterday that we as a
government were very pleased that the federal government
has now decided to proceed with a new shipbuilding
strategy, and that Marystown yard, because of its
history and successes that it has had, is well
positioned to bid for that kind of work. They have
indicated to us that to help with that process,
depending on the nature of the work that they get –
because that thirty-year strategy involves a full range
of boats and ships to be built over that period time.
Some of them large, some of them small, and some of them
mid-sized. Depending on the nature of the work that will
be going to Marystown, that will influence the kind of
investment they need to make to be able to respond to
and to do that piece of work, Mr. Speaker.
One of the things that we have
been trying to do, and working with the company, is as
they have been trying to identify the infrastructure
requirements that they will have, depending on the scope
of work that they get to complete. We have indicated to
them that we would want to work with them to ensure that
their position –
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the minister is like
a tape recorder.
I will put this very bluntly:
Are you prepared to commit money
to a graving dock? Period!
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of Business.
MR. WISEMAN:
Now that the member opposite has
clarified the punctuation, let me try to respond to his
question.
Mr. Speaker, it is very
unfortunate that in the Department of Business, and
other departments of government, we frequently find
ourselves having discussions with private companies who
are interested in soliciting support from government. It
is very difficult on the floor of the House of Assembly
to discuss what is very confidential information in a
very public way. So the members opposite get up
frequently and ask questions of government and the
ministers on this side of the House about issues
relative to their discussions and negotiations,
potentially, with private companies. It is difficult -
in fact, impossible, I say, Mr. Speaker, for ministers
to get up and to actually start to disclose the nature
of what might be very private and confidential
discussions. So I ask the member opposite to respect the
notion that government may on occasion –
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
We know a lot about what the
Department of Business does not do, but we know what
this minister is good at doing.
Anyway, Mr. Speaker, my question
is for the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural
Development. Last month in the House, minister, the
Minister of Natural Resources slipped that a German
company had toured the former AbitibiBowater mill with
an interest to possibly doing something with it. Upon
hearing the news, the president, I believe, of the Grand
Falls Chamber of Commerce revealed that they had no idea
there had been an Expression of Interest from that
particular company and, in fact, he expressed concern
about being kept out of the loop.
I ask the minister:
Have you since included the
partners in the process - such as the Chamber of
Commerce - and can the minister provide us with any kind
of update as to where things might stand with respect to
the German interest?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Innovation,
Trade and Rural Development.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SKINNER:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, as I have indicated
in this House before, the work that the ministerial task
force does in relation to the shutdown of the mill in
Central Newfoundland and Labrador is done through the
Community Development Committee; so we engage with the
Community Development Committee on any economic
development issues or other issues that we may have
related to the mill closure. So, in terms of going out
and speaking to individual Chambers of Commerce or
individual municipalities or other individual groups
that may be out there - and there are many of them - we
have certainly talked to them in the past, but, in terms
of formally engaging, our engagement would be done with
the Community Development Committee.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
My questions are for the Minister
of Environment and Conservation.
We have learned today, Mr.
Speaker, through the media, that half of our capacity of
containment boom is en route to the Gulf of New Mexico.
The containment boom is what is necessary, in the case
of an oil spill, to keep oil from reaching the
coastline.
I would like to know from the
minister, Mr. Speaker, if the Province has been involved
in this decision to have half of our boom capacity moved
to the Gulf of Mexico.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I can certainly check
for the member and get back to her. I do know that we
did send a staff person who has involvement with the
cleaning of birds, very highly specialized within
Canada, and they work at one of our provincial parks
here; we did send one of those down to help out. They
just came back yesterday, or the day before, and we are
looking forward to a report from them, but I can
certainly check on the other one for you and get back to
you.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister - she
said earlier in Question Period that her department is
in consultation with all those who are involved in
issues around oil spills: Canadian Coast Guard, DFO, et
cetera - how could this decision be made without the
Province being consulted, Mr. Speaker?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, my understanding is that
this equipment is privately held. I am not saying that
they did not consult with anybody in government; I am
saying that I am not aware of any consultation done in
my department. Our department is responsible for, should
there be an oil spill on land. We are not responsible
for the offshore, Mr. Speaker. Again, I can certainly
check around within government and see if anybody within
government was consulted, but again I think it is
private equipment.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I point out to the minister that
the boom that has gone down is half of the capacity of
the Canadian Coast Guard, so she may want to look
further into that issue.
Mr. Speaker, we know that
Placentia Bay is at very, very high risk when it comes
to the potential for oil spills – much higher than the
offshore, Mr. Speaker – and the Mayor of Placentia and
others who are concerned say that we are not adequately
prepared for an oil spill.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS MICHAEL:
So I am asking the Minister of
Environment and Conservation: What is her concern about
the implication of half of our boom capacity being
deployed to the Gulf of Mexico?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, it seems like the member
opposite answered her own question. She said herself
that half of the equipment came from the Canadian Coast
Guard, so a very appropriate entity to ask would be the
Canadian Coast Guard, Mr. Speaker.
As I said, we consult with the
communities; we participate on the SmartBay. Certainly,
there are environmental assessments that go on, that we
pay very close attention to, Mr. Speaker. We consult
with the FFAW, with the mayors themselves, and we keep
in very close contact with the federal government, Mr.
Speaker.
As I said, this is under the
jurisdiction of the federal government. I know in the
past that the mayor has been very outspoken. I know that
he does not believe that he has gotten the attention
that he deserves from the federal government, Mr.
Speaker. There are certainly discussions that we have
had with the feds on that, but again it is the
jurisdiction of the feds and certainly the Canadian
Coast Guard. If they make a decision to send half of
their capacity, then that is certainly a decision that
is within their rights to make.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It was on Sunday that the federal
government announced it was sending 3,000 metres of
boom, and I heard that in the news on Sunday. I am
asking the minister: If she is so up on consulting with
all of the parties involved, whether it is the
communities or the mayors or Canadian Coast Guard or
DFO, why would her department not have started asking
questions about where the 3,000 metres of boom were
going to come from when the federal government made this
announcement?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, again, I do not mind
providing information when I consult with the various
organizations in government.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, this is not within the
Department of Environment and Conservation. I have no
issue whatsoever – I think it has been demonstrated in
this House - I have no issue with answering questions
that fall within my jurisdiction. I certainly would
never want to answer questions for the Minister of
Finance –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS JOHNSON:
– or for the Minister of Child, Youth and Family
Services, and I certainly should not be answering
questions for the Department of Transportation, or
Transport Canada or the Canadian Coast Guard, Mr.
Speaker.
I just said that I can certainly
follow up within government. Certainly, if she does not
want to ask them herself, I can certainly ask on her
behalf. That is what I can offer to her, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The time allotted for questions and
answers has expired.