MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, following this
government’s logic on the Lower Churchill file is quite
difficult. A couple of weeks ago, the Premier stated
that he is going to pursue the Maritime route to
transmit power and bypass Quebec. This weekend we
learned that Nalcor is supporting a proposal from a
private company to develop a 2,000 megawatt line from
the Quebec-US border to New York City. If this company
is successful, they plan to pre-sell access to this
line.
I ask the Premier today:
Is this Province willing to
pre-buy space on this line without the transmission
infrastructure in place to get our power to the
Quebec-US border?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, this Province is not
prepared to enter into commitments unless it has
actually something to go on. I think this is just the
opposite of the question that the hon. member asked last
week as to why we had not entered into certain
contracts. We had not entered into them because at that
point we did not have any power to sell. Now, it is
Monday and she is now coming from the other side asking
if we are prepared to enter into contracts even though
we do not have space allocated.
This government is not going to
put the people of Newfoundland and Labrador in a
precarious position. What we are going to do is proceed
and we are going to look at all our options. We have not
ruled out any of the options. The article that appeared
on Nalcor over the weekend is an accurate article. We
could look at actually buying space at some point in
time when there are approvals in place to take power
from the Quebec border. We could still even look at the
possibility of building our own transmission line
through Quebec. That is something which could have to be
done. As well, of course, our preferred option is the
Maritime route and we have stated that previously.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The whole purpose of the question
is because during the weekend, Mr. Ed Martin of Nalcor
was quoted as saying that: "If it was a relationship
where we were one of the players on the line and we had
guaranteed access for a particular price, that would
suit us fine." A few months ago in the House of Assembly
the Minister of Natural Resources, Mr. Speaker,
indicated that they were not prepared to make any
commitment because they did not know which route that
they would take and which way they would wheel their
capacity. So, Mr. Speaker, the purpose of the question
today was to look for clarification.
Mr. Speaker, Hydro-Quebec has just
signed a twenty-six year contract with the state of
Vermont to supply power. The Premier referenced last
week the MOU that he signed with Rhode Island in 2007
and his attempt to find a customer for Lower Churchill
power. We now know that the MOU is dead, as Rhode Island
has backed away from signing any agreements with the
Province.
I ask the Premier:
While everyone else is signing
long-term agreements, what meaningful actions is this
Province taking to secure potential customers?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, when we took over the
Government of Newfoundland and Labrador, we found
ourselves in a position where the previous government
had not marketed our power properly in the rest of
Canada and even the United States. When we first went to
the governors meetings in the United States, it was
Quebec power – the power that was coming out of the
Upper Churchill was considered to be Quebec’s power.
They were marketing it, they were selling it, they had
generated it, and they had produced it. Newfoundland and
Labrador did not even exist in the power markets in the
Northeastern United States.
So, what we have done over the
course of the last five years is nurture the
relationship with the New England governors as well as
with other provinces, Ontario and the Maritime
provinces, to show that we will be a significant
exporter. This government does not have a short-term
vision of where it is going; it has a long-term vision.
Our Energy Plan goes out to 2041 to the point when we
repatriate the Upper Churchill power and we are working
back from that.
So, we have a long-term
perspective, we are building relationships, we are
promoting the Province. As I said last week, I have
spoken in New York, I have spoken in Calgary, I have
spoken in Toronto, I have spoken in Ottawa. I will
continue to promote this Province to the best of my
ability anywhere in the world.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
What we have is a minister who
claims that we should not be buying capacity on a line.
We have a corporation, Mr. Speaker, who is looking to
invest with the private sector to buy capacity on a line
that we have no route to get to at this stage, and, Mr.
Speaker, in addition to that we have no secure customers
while others are signing deals to provide power.
I ask the Premier this question.
He stated that his preference was the Maritime option
when questioned a couple of weeks ago. While that may be
his preference, the work that remains to be done shows
that this route is at least a decade or more away. One
of the major challenges when using underwater cables to
transmit electricity is that a significant quantity of
power is lost. So using the Maritime route, there will
be two instances that will require underwater
transmission, across the Strait of Belle Isle and the
Gulf of St. Lawrence.
I ask the Premier:
How much power will be lost using
underwater transmission and what impact will that have
on the feasibility of the project?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, I can undertake to
provide that information. I am not an engineer. I would
not be able to give you an accurate number as to what
the power loss is but I can tell you, obviously the
Leader of Opposition is listening to her counterpart,
the Liberal Premier of New Brunswick and/or his energy
minister who has indicated that technical problems are
the reasons why we would not do the underwater route.
Well, since they made that statement, or since that
statement was taken out of context, as they have
indicated to us, they have since changed that and they
have indicated that there are not significant technical
problems with regard to underwater transmission. As a
matter of fact, it is happening all over the world.
There are lots of jurisdictions. We could cite all kinds
of examples. I will provide the examples to the Leader
of the Opposition, or any members of the Opposition,
with respect to where this is taking place. There is
some loss, some power loss but it is insignificant in
the big scheme of things. This is the best, clean, green
renewable energy project in North America and it will
happen eventually.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
We know that the government has
not completed the necessary work to move forward with
the Maritime route. There are no environmental impact
studies that have been filed to cross the Gulf of St.
Lawrence and we know that process will take years.
I tell the Premier what I did talk
to the Government of New Brunswick about, however, was
the capacity on their lines to accept Lower Churchill
power. They have confirmed, Mr. Speaker, that there is
no capacity. They say that Newfoundland and Labrador, if
approved, would be responsible for constructing new
transmission lines across that province and paying a
tariff to the people of New Brunswick.
I ask the Premier today:
What will be the extra cost of
constructing these transmission lines and what impact
will that have on the feasibility of the Lower Churchill
project?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Well, now we understand completely
why the Leader of the Opposition is so completely
misinformed. She just indicated who she is relying on
for information. She is relying on the Government of New
Brunswick, who just recently backed away from a deal
with Quebec whereby they would have given away their
future. So that is where she is getting her information.
So let’s start from that premise.
The Leader of the Opposition in
New Brunswick was in last week to talk to me about the
potential power projects, to talk about the use of New
Brunswick as an energy hub for Atlantic Canada, for the
Maritimes, for the Northeastern United States. It is
interesting how a Conservative thinks as opposed to a
Liberal, who decides they will just give it all away.
Having said that, we have also
spoken to the Premier of New Brunswick, to the other
premiers of the Atlantic Provinces who are looking at
Atlantic co-operation to build a Maritime route, to
build an energy hub throughout Atlantic Canada whereby
the Province of New Brunswick would work with us. Now,
we have already said whether it is in Quebec or whether
it is in New Brunswick, whether it is in Nova Scotia, we
have to upgrade. We will pay for upgrade. If we have to
pay for rental, we will pay for rental. If we have to
pay for new transmission -
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the hon. Premier to conclude
his answer.
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
- we will pay for new transmission.
There is a co-operative attitude. Your divide and
conquer attitude, whether it happens to be Quebec or New
Brunswick, simply does not work.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I would like to inform the Premier
that you have to talk to someone in order to smoke the
answers out of the government opposite because every day
it is a different message. One week we are going the
Maritime route, the next week we are going through
Quebec. One week we are trying to buy capacity on a line
to the United States, the next week we have no way to
transport power. So, Mr. Speaker, there are more
questions than there are ever answers, I would say to
the Premier, and it is all right to talk to some people
to find out what the real lay of the land is.
Mr. Speaker, once power is
transmitted through Labrador and across The Strait of
Belle Isle, down the Northern Peninsula, through the
Long Range Mountains, across Western Newfoundland,
across the Gulf of St. Lawrence, through Nova Scotia,
through New Brunswick, we then have to go through the
State of Maine.
I ask the Premier today:
What discussions have you or
Nalcor had with the State of Maine regarding
transmission capacity? Will we have to build new
transmission lines there as well?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, the hon. member opposite
talks about taking power and taking it across Labrador
and across the Gulf and down through Newfoundland,
across the Gulf and through the Maritimes and down into
the State of Maine. As if: Look, you know, this is just
too much trouble. We really should not bother with this.
What we should do is - she should go back to her
previous position. We should just give this all away to
Quebec. Which is exactly what her government and her
Premier and previous governments have been prepared to
do is give it to Quebec.
An article appeared in the
Montreal Gazette just this weekend. Do you know what
it is entitled? Let it go, Newfoundland. Let it go. That
is what we should do. We should listen to the hon.
member opposite and we should listen to the members of
the Opposition. We should just let it go. We should give
it all way.
In that particular article they
also say, "Williams isn’t wrong on the facts." So
everything that we laid out in Ottawa last week, every
single fact is correct. They acknowledge that, but
instead Quebec has this patronizingly colonial attitude:
Let it go, Newfoundland and Labrador, give it all to us
and we will take care of it. Well, over my dead body
that is going to happen, I can tell you right now.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
No one is talking about giving it
to Quebec, but if you want to talk about giving it away,
I would say that is your motto today. That is the
government’s motto. Certainly, that is what we have seen
with Abitibi, and we have seen it with a lot of
contracts going to Quebec companies in recent days. The
giveaway to Quebec is starting with government opposite,
Mr. Speaker.
Let me ask the Premier what the
plan is at this stage for the development of the Lower
Churchill because we are no closer today than we were
seven years ago, when he walked into office, on knowing
what route that this project will take and what
transmission ability that we have in order to develop.
So I ask the Premier today:
What route is it going to be, and
when is it that you are going to get down to work on
that file?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Give it all away, so she talks about
Abitibi. So, she is not in favour of what we did for the
people of Central Newfoundland. She is not in favour of
the fact that we took back and we saved their timber
rights and their land rights, and their power assets –
their very, very important power assets which happen to
be related to this. She is not in favour of the fact
that we then took that opportunity then to pay
severance, which is unprecedented right across the
country.
I have in front of me a letter
which was written to me by, or written actually to –
yes, it is to myself, and basically on behalf of the
Government of Newfoundland and Labrador. March 16, 2010,
from Joseph Kruger, the head of Kruger Paper in Corner
Brook. Last line, last sentence: Again, I want to thank
you and your government for saving the mill. That is
what we do. We saved the mill and we saved the future
for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The giveaway on Abitibi, Mr.
Speaker, is letting Abitibi off the hook with hundreds
of millions of dollars, and that is what this government
did.
Mr. Speaker, on Thursday of last
week, a three-year-old child was nearly struck when a
three-foot copper pipe fell from the ceiling in the
blood collection area of the Janeway. It could have
resulted in a very serious injury for that child, but
fortunately and thankfully, it was not the case. Eastern
Health stated that they had given very clear direction
that the construction work was only supposed to be done
at night when the area was unoccupied.
I ask the minister:
Why were the work directives given
by Eastern Health to this construction company not
followed?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
This was obviously a very serious
incident and one that deserved and received immediate
attention. The company was dealt with. The occupational
health and safety issues are being investigated, and
this kind of conduct on behalf of any company will not
be tolerated.
Mr. Speaker, it is my
understanding, again from a review of the matter, that
this matter is still be looking at. Thankfully, no one
was hurt, but these are not the kind of situations that
can be tolerated.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Health Science complex is one
of the busiest buildings in our Province. Thousands of
people go through that building every day and Eastern
Health has a responsibility to ensure the safety of its
patients, the public, and its employees in instances
were work is being done in public intuitions.
I ask the minister:
Who decides what protection
barriers need to be used and why was no protection
barriers used in this case?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Government
Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. O’BRIEN:
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
In regard to the Health Sciences
or any other such facility in Newfoundland and Labrador
there is extra precaution taken each and every day in
regard to work being conducted within those facilities.
In this case there, there was an oversight, as I
understand it, from the manager who actually knew, or
was supposed to have known, that the work was supposed
to happen after hours, or at a time when that blood
collection or whatever other procedures were not
supposed to be happening.
Anyways, that did not happen and
then company itself took corrective action very quickly
in regard to that site, closed it down very, very
quickly. Occupational Health and Safety did an
investigative review on that. They always do in regard
to any of those. Extra precautions are always put in
place in regard to any facility in Newfoundland and
Labrador.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the directives given
to these companies need to be followed to ensure the
health and safety of the public, patients and employees
are protected. Had Eastern Health been monitoring the
work that was being carried out by this company, they
would have known that the contractor was not working as
per the requirements for safety in the contract.
I ask the minister:
When directives are given to these
construction companies, who are responsible for ensuring
that they are followed and who are responsible to ensure
that the monitoring is done?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Government
Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. O’BRIEN:
Mr. Speaker, in regard to the
directive itself and the work that is being done, it is
the responsibility of both parties to make sure that all
occupational health and safety standards and regulations
are being adhered to. In this case, it just so happened
that the company, on an oversight, started the work -
that should not have happened. The company acted very,
very fast. Occupational, Health and Safety acted very,
very fast in regard to closing down that site.
In most cases - as a matter of
fact, I have been the Minister of Government Services
now for three years just about and the Minister
Responsible for Occupational Health and Safety, there
has been a lot of work in our facilities across
Newfoundland and Labrador. Really, to my knowledge, this
is the first incident in regard to any hospital in
Newfoundland and Labrador of this sort.
So, the oversight is good, it is
working well, but in this case it just so happened that
it happened within the company and the company acted on
it very, very quickly.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
My question is for the Minister of
Justice.
Mr. Speaker, the federal
government has adopted a distinct law and order
approach. More activities are being criminalized and
those convicted are more likely to go to prison and for
longer period of times.
This past weekend, the minister
participated in meetings with his Atlantic counterparts
where this matter and others were discussed.
I ask the minister:
Can you report on what this new
federal approach to crime will mean for corrections
services in this Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
the Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, the Department of
Justice, I think, concurs generally with the actions
taken by the federal government in terms of its tough on
crime legislation, but at the same time we are cognizant
of the fact that it is going to have an impact on the
Province and all provinces. At our meetings on the
weekend, that was certainly an issue of concern.
There was an action group
established some time ago that did up some figures, that
I do not have at my fingertips, on what the possible
cost might be to the Atlantic Provinces in general. We
are concerned with the fact that it will have a
financial impact. We have made representations to the
federal government and we will continue to do so but at
the Atlantic ministers’ level and at the federal
territorial ministers’ level when it occurs in the fall.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Despite the inevitable increase in
the number of persons who will go to prison following
these federal government changes in their policy, this
government has taken no steps to accommodate or prepare
for this increase in prisoners. Specifically, the
Province has shelved the replacement for the existing
penitentiary that is already widely acknowledged to be
insufficient and decrepit.
In light of the minister’s
meetings and in light of this clear, hard-lined federal
policy, will the minister take
steps to ensure now that the proper replacement facility
is put in place here in this Province in terms of a
penitentiary?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
the Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, in response to the
constant criticism from the Opposition in regard to the
delay of the pre-trial detention centre in Labrador,
this department has constantly said that we are already
engaged in that activity. We have started an internal
review as to how to best get the best configuration out
of correctional systems.
We have a number of correctional
facilities in the Province. They all have difficulties.
We are all well-aware of the problems with the HMP down
by the lake. We are also, I think, acceptable to the
fact by this time, because the federal government is not
coming on board with respect to building a federal
prison. We are looking at all the options we can,
including any expansions or modifications or
reconfigurations of our system so to get the best bang
for our buck, so to speak, as to how we can deal with
corrections in the Province.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
We know that the feds have
absolutely stated they are not building any new prisons
in Canada in the foreseeable future. We know that this
government committed and announced twice that they were
going to build a pre-trial detention centre in Goose
Bay, and have now scrapped it. So I will move on,
minister, to another question because it is pretty
obvious you have not done anything to pursue a new HMP.
Mr. Speaker, government has been
quick to take credit for their report of two years ago
called: Decades of Darkness. Yet, many of the
recommendations in that report are still awaiting action
after two years. One of those recommendations – and this
ties in with my earlier questions about the prison here.
One of the recommendations was that there would be a new
Prisons Act to replace the existing one. However, we
have seen absolutely no indication of any kind regarding
consultations with either stakeholders or the general
public.
I ask the minister: When can we
expect to see these consultations take place and a new
Prisons Act actually be introduced here in the House?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The hon. member is quite right in
that that was one of the recommendations of Decades of
Darkness. Mr. Speaker, the focus of the government after
the Decades of Darkness report was on training and
programming. To that end, Mr. Speaker, it has invested
upwards of $6 million in terms of training of personnel,
training of staff, developing of programs for inmates,
so to make our correctional facilities a better place
both for our inmates and our staff. Mr. Speaker, we
have, as I said, invested $6 million in that.
With respect to the Prisons Act;
the Prisons Act needs to be done. There is a lot of work
going on as we speak in my department, in doing
jurisdictional scans, getting best practices and so on.
That act is being developed, and when it is ready, Mr.
Speaker, it will be brought forward in due course.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you.
Mr. Speaker, in September of 2008
the Department of Business announced an $8 million
interest-free loan for the expansion of Terra Nova Shoes
in the community of Harbour Grace. This past April the
company announced that it was laying off sixty workers.
Last week we see that the displaced workers were invited
to attend sessions with the Department of Human
Resources, Labour and Employment and Service Canada to
explore options, including EI, Canada Pensions and so
on.
Can the
minister confirm that this layoff now is indeed
permanent and not temporary, as originally thought?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Business.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. WISEMAN:
I do not think anyone ever indicated
those layoffs that were announced a short while ago were
going to be a temporary nature. I think what was
announced, the company indicated that they had changed
their method of operation, they had developed a new plan
forward and that those layoffs were going to be, in
fact, permanent, and they reflected their new operation
as they move forward.
So there was no mistaken notion,
Mr. Speaker, that these layoffs were going to be of a
temporary nature. Obviously, as the company continues to
operate, as new business opportunities come forward,
they will respond to those. If that creates an
opportunity for expansion and growth, no doubt the
workforce will reflect that growth.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you.
Mr. Speaker, government’s response
to this announcement was to ask Terra Nova Shoes for a
revised business plan so that the department might
review the terms of the loan.
Can the
minister confirm that the plan was indeed reviewed? If a
new plan was received from that particular company, if
the terms of the loan were revised, and if so, what are
the new terms?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Business.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. WISEMAN:
The member opposite is right, Mr.
Speaker. We did indicate that we would be reviewing a
new business plan and as a result of that discussion,
and if necessary, we will be revising the terms and
conditions outlined in the agreement we had in place
when we advanced the money to them in the beginning and
that process is still underway. We hope to have that
concluded in a matter of weeks, I say, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Opposition House Leader.
MR. KELVIN PARSONS:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
This $8 million to Terra Nova
Shoes represents the largest single amount of money
provided by the Department of Business to any one
company, and is the major money, in fact, ever spent
from the Business Attraction Fund since it was founded.
I ask the minister:
What changes to the internal
application and approval processes have been made within
your department to ensure a greater level of certainty
of business survival? Because it is quite
obvious that the due diligence done here did not pan out
and it looks like we could be on the hook for $8
million. So what, if any,
changes have your government made and your department
made in a terms of doing due diligence on companies who
apply for business attraction funds in this Province,
and subsidies?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. Minister of Business.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. WISEMAN:
Mr. Speaker, I say to the member
opposite, I think it is important to understand - and to
take the member back to the time when that announcement
was made.
You may recall, Mr. Speaker, the
minister of the day indicated very clearly that that
company that currently operates in Harbour Grace was
looking at – they had an operation in Ontario and an
operation in Harbour Grace. When government considered
the request before them, it had a circumstance where
there were 150, 160 employees working in Harbour Grade
at that time. The company was considering whether they
would consolidate in Harbour Grace or consolidate in
Ontario.
We looked at the business plan
that they presented. Obviously, it is a long-standing
viable company that we had a long-standing relationship
with. They have been in the Province for a long time,
very sound financially, and we created an opportunity
for them to consolidate their operation in Harbour Grace
rather than losing all 150 employees at that time, Mr.
Speaker. So, the business case they had at that time
looked at a consolidation. The international economy
changed and market conditions changed, so we ended up
seeing what we saw last year, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, this morning we had a
technical briefing from Chevron and we were delighted to
have that briefing. They informed us that from their
perspective they are doing everything they can to
prevent a blow out from occurring in the Orphan Basin as
happened in the Gulf of Mexico. However, Mr. Speaker, at
this moment we do not know what the reasons are for the
disaster in the Gulf. Potentially, there could have been
technical issues that contributed to the blow out.
If such were the case, Mr.
Speaker, I ask the Premier: If this government would be
willing to put a halt to the drilling in the Orphan
Basin until an assessment could be made of the relevancy
of any identified technical issues to the Lona-O55
drilling program?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources and Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we were pleased also
that Chevron provided briefings to our caucus this
morning, to the Opposition caucuses, and to the media.
Mr. Speaker, we are pleased with the plans and the extra
regulation that Chevron has put in place with regard to
drilling in the Orphan Basin, as well as the extra
scrutiny that has been overlaid now by the C-NLOPB.
Mr. Speaker, also, in addition
that Chevron has representation on the team in the Gulf
of Mexico who are dealing with the oil spill there. As
well, they have representation on the Obama
Administration’s response team to the Gulf of Mexico.
Lessons being learned are being applied here, Mr.
Speaker. All of that gives us a great sense of comfort
with regard to drilling in the Orphan Basin.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Yes, I heard those things as well
in the briefing this morning, but we still have people
expressing their concern about the risk of a blow out in
the deep water and what would happen if there were a
blow out. Many have concerns that the government would
not put a stop to drilling in the Orphan Basin without
full knowledge of why the blow out happened.
So, I ask the government: What
would it take for the government to consider stopping
action in the Orphan Basin? Would it be another blow out
or are there technical difficulties that would force
them to do it?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources and Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, there are quite a
number of regulations governing operations in our
offshore. Mr. Speaker, if all of the safety measures and
regulations were not being observed, were not available,
requirements for safety were not available, then we
would certainly agree to shutting down drilling in our
offshore.
Mr. Speaker, as far as the C-NLOPB
is concerned, all regulations are in force, being met.
In terms of Chevron’s own code of practice, all the
regulations are being met, Mr. Speaker, and if there
were information that was starting to come out of the
Gulf of Mexico to say that there was a systemic problem
that had not been identified up to this point then that
would be a reason for shutting it down as well, Mr.
Speaker. None of those things have happened to date.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, on Monday the Premier
offered to provide a list of the additional safety
measures that were being employed by Chevron as a result
of the incident in the Gulf of Mexico, and such a list
was provided to us by the Department of Natural
Resources two days after that. In this morning’s
briefing with Chevron we were told that one of the
measures noted as an additional one on the list from the
Department of Natural Resources, a measure that states
that Chevron will not use expandable liners as a part of
their well casing design, was always a part of Chevron’s
plan, that this was not an additional measure. As a
matter of fact, they were quite emphatic in saying that
the use of expandable liners was never a part of their
plan.
So, Mr. Speaker, I ask the
Premier: Could we receive clarification about what else
in the list of additional measures provided to us by the
government is inaccurate and actually not an additional
measure?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the worst accusation
that could be made from the remarks now coming from the
Leader of the NDP is that in my department sometimes we
tend to be overzealous in terms of making sure that
people got the correct information. Mr. Speaker, we
spend a lot of time on this file. We recognize the
concern that is being felt by the people of this
Province, by the people of the country and of the world,
Mr. Speaker. We, too, are horrified when we look at
pictures of what is happening in the Gulf, and we will
do everything we can to ensure that does not happen
here, Mr. Speaker. The environment is important to every
one of us. The sea is very important to us; it is a part
of who we are.
Mr. Speaker, we take this
situation very, very seriously and would not be offering
comfort if we were not sincerely sure that is the case.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The time allotted for questions and
answers has expired.