MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, over the weekend we
understand that President Obama has issued a moratorium
on new drilling leases until there is a full and further
environmental review. Yet, today, we are going deeper
into the North Atlantic Ocean, drilling a well in 2,600
metres of water off the Coast of Newfoundland and
Labrador, which is one kilometre deeper than the British
Petroleum well in the United States.
In light of the current
environmental spill in the Gulf of Mexico,
I ask the government today, if
they have reviewed our own environmental protection
safeguards for Chevron’s ultra deep water drilling
project which just started?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources and Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Yes, Mr. Speaker, we have. Chevron
released, in this past week, quite a considerable amount
of information with regard to its drilling plans in the
Orphan Basin. Mr. Speaker, we have confidence in the
regulatory and legislative regime that we have in place
with regard to offshore safety. We constantly look at
those regulations. The Premier made a commitment here in
the House of Assembly last week to do an independent
review of the boards regulations and that process is
currently unfolding, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
As I said, Chevron is now drilling
a well in 2,600 metres of water; 1,000 metres deeper
than the British Petroleum in the Gulf of Mexico. We saw
over the weekend the enormous difficulty in trying to
stop a leak that far under water in the Gulf of Mexico.
I ask the Premier today, Mr.
Speaker: Does he have any
concerns about the drilling project off the Coast of
Newfoundland and Labrador and the technology that is
being used? I ask him:
How can he give assurances to the
people of the Province that this can be prevented and
protected when we see what is happening in the Gulf of
Mexico today?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, there is always a
risk associated when you go offshore, whether you go
there in a boat to fish or you are drilling for oil.
What we have to do, as best we can, is understand that
risk and do everything we can to mitigate it. We
understand that the Stena Carron, the oil rig that will
be drilling the exploratory role in the Orphan Basin has
at least three backup systems. We are required to have
at least one; other than the drilling of a relief well,
Mr. Speaker, one of three systems. I am happy to report
that the Stena Carron has all three.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I also would like to ask the
minister, because there was a commitment last week for
the independent review board, she indicated it again
today.
I would ask the government, Mr.
Speaker, when we will see the
details and the framework around the independent review
board and when we can see them start their work in this
Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the terms of
reference have been developed and are now in the
approval process. As well, there is a scoping exercise
ongoing to find the appropriate individual or agency to
do this piece of work. It is extremely important that we
get it done in a timely way for our own information and
knowledge, Mr. Speaker, and for that of the people of
the Province. So it will be done as quickly as possibly
can be done.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Scientists in the Province who
scrutinize both government and industry’s responses to
oil spills charged that the monitoring of chronic oil
pollution from offshore oil and gas activity is
inadequate due to a lack of independent observers on
platforms, due to lack of aerial surveillance and a lack
of public disclosure of details of pollution events or
even methods used to monitor these.
I ask the Premier today, Mr.
Speaker: Why are the experts
telling us that there is no credible and comprehensive
program in place to monitor oil spills and pollution,
yet your government giving people assurances of the
Province that everything is fine?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, before any activity
happens in our offshore there is a very comprehensive
review that goes on, not only in terms of the C-NLOPB
but also in terms of the Canadian Environmental
Protection Agency. We have a number of departments, both
federally and provincially, that are engaged.
Operational plans are developed; they are reviewed by
external agencies that have international reputations,
Mr. Speaker, such as Lloyd’s of London - that certainly
would be a name that we are all familiar with here in
this Province.
Mr. Speaker, the Premier has
already undertaken to do an arm’s-length review of all
of the safety procedures that are used in our offshore.
We are not going to predict what the outcome of that is
going to be. Up to now, Mr. Speaker, we are satisfied.
We know that there are risks, there are always risks but
it is an understood risk, and at this point in time we
feel that all measures are in place to mitigate that
risk.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, Justice for Children
and Youth, a local non-profit advocacy group, has been
advancing the causes of children in our Province for
many years. They have devoted hours and hours of their
own personal time trying to help children and families.
They were instrumental in advocating for the
establishment of the Child and Youth Advocate office and
are now appalled by the fact that we have an Advocate
who will not speak for the children.
I ask the minister:
When will you recognize that it is
the Advocate’s job to speak out on issues affecting our
children and to ensure that this happens within this
office?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
the Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, the act that sets up the
Office of the Child and Youth Advocate is permissive
legislation; it sets out the roles and jurisdictions of
the Officer of the House. It is not prescript, it does
not tell him how to do the job, it does not lay out any
regulations with how often he should talk to the media
or if he should talk to the media at all.
The Opposition is suggesting, Mr.
Speaker, that by not talking to the media, he is not
advocating for children. How they can make that
rationalization is beyond me, Mr. Speaker. The Officer
of the House has a job to do. In the latest report, for
example, he did his investigation, he made his
recommendations. The recommendations have been made, now
it is up to the receiving party to act on the
recommendations. There is nothing in the act that
requires him to speak to anybody.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
I say to the minister, that being the
case, maybe it should not be permissive, it should be
mandatory. Maybe what we should be doing is telling him
the specific details of his job.
Section 3 of the act, however, Mr.
Speaker, requires that the Advocate protect and advance
the rights of children and youth. The Child and Youth
Advocate’s 2008-2011 own business plan states that the
Advocate and staff engage in children and youth
agencies, government departments and the general public
in all discussions and consultations. Yet, this advocacy
group has been trying for months to get a meeting with
the current Child and Youth Advocate, but to date, they
have not been successful.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister,
because the Advocate is not
fulfilling the requirements of his job: If he is not
meeting with the people who have first-hand knowledge of
the issues, does he feel, as the minister, that this is
an acceptable behaviour for the Child and Youth Advocate
office?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
the Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, with respect to what the
Advocate is doing in his job and who he talks to and who
he does not and who he consults, that is not a question
for the Minister of Justice to respond to. The Advocate
has his role to play. The Opposition Leader, as I have
mentioned, indicates that by not talking to certain
people he is not doing his role. There is no logic in
that reasoning, Mr. Speaker. The Advocate is fulfilling
his role. We are very pleased with the job he has done
in cleaning up the mess and the shambles that office was
in.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
When you have a group like Justice
for Children and Youth and they are unable to access the
Child and Youth Advocate to talk about issues regarding
children in this Province, I
ask the minister, does he actually think this is
acceptable behaviour for this office?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, I know very little about
the group that the hon. Leader of the Opposition just
referred to. I assume that there are a lot of similar
type organizations out there that want to talk to the
Child and Youth Advocate, and I assume that he has
talked to a lot of them. I am sure he will consult with
all and sundry to get the information he needs and make
his recommendation.
If there is one group who was left
out of that, it is not for me to suggest that that
Advocate should meet with that specific group, there may
be any reasons in the world why he did not.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, so far what we know is
that we have a Child and Youth Advocate today in this
Province who is temporary, who is not speaking to any
politicians, who refuses to speak to the media, who will
not speak to community groups who approach him, and he
will not speak to the findings within his own reports.
We also know, Mr. Speaker, he is being paid at $175 an
hour by the government, and we know he is entitled to a
provincial pension.
So I ask the government today:
Is Mr. Rorke collecting his
provincial pension while being employed as a temporary
Advocate in this Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Justice and
Attorney General.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. F. COLLINS:
Mr. Speaker, given the situation we
had in that office as of September of last year, this
government had to make a decision to find somebody who
was competent to fulfill that role in an acting
capacity, to get that office back on stream, to
re-establish morale, to advocate for youth, and to do
all of the things that office is supposed to do.
We were very fortunate, Mr.
Speaker, to get a person of such impeccable credentials
as Judge Rorke. He is a retired judge - I assume he has
a pension as a retired judge. Whether he is collecting
it or not, I would not know, but if he is, he is
certainly entitled to it.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Over the weekend we heard that
1,200 workers at six OCI plants across the Province have
handed their union a strike mandate. These workers are
being asked for concessions relating to vacation pay,
overtime and holidays. Now, Mr. Speaker, when Ocean
Choice International bought these plants in 2007, when
the government dismantled FPI, workers at that time
agreed to take wage cuts for a short period of time.
Today, Mr. Speaker, these workers
earn less than they did six years ago, and I ask the
minister: Does he not agree
that it is time that this company started to give back
to these workers so that they make a decent wage?
I ask him if his government has
been intervening or having any discussions in this
process between the company and the union.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The Leader of the Opposition is
right. During the FPI debate, there was a time when
government acquired some funds to assist that
transition.
Mr. Speaker, right at this
particular time, both parties are into negotiations.
That is what negotiations and contract talks are about,
Mr. Speaker. We certainly hope that in spite of the
strike mandate that was taken over the weekend, we hope
that both sides can come to an agreement here and find a
resolution.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Not only is Ocean Choice
International after inheriting the assets of FPI under
an agreement with the government, not only are they not
paying their workers at a wage that is acceptable, but
we understand that they are also not meeting the terms
of their agreement that they signed by government for
the five-year period between 2007 and 2011.
In 2007 at the Marystown plant,
there were between 400 and 500 people working two
shifts. Today the workforce is about 230 employees and
they are down to one shift. I ask the minister:
Why is OCI not living up to the
terms of their agreement and what is government doing
about this to ensure that they do not continue to
downsize and jeopardize the livelihoods of the fish
workers in that area?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, this is probably one of
the most challenging times to be in the groundfish
business, which exactly is what the OCI plant in
Marystown is. It is in my district, Mr. Speaker, so I
know all about the challenges that they are facing at
that particular facility.
Mr. Speaker, they have rolled out
a plan. Government has been in negotiations with them
around the OCI – the shipping out of yellow tail. We met
with the union there. We met with the company. We made
an agreement in conjunction with the union at that
particular site that we would assist in those measures.
We certainly hope that they will have continued
performance and improved number of workers in that
plant, but there is no doubt about it, it is a
challenging time to be in the groundfish industry and we
can only hope for the best as a result.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
We understand that this company,
as I said, has not been paying their workers properly
since they took over the plants in 2007. We have also
been hearing from the municipality in the area that they
have outstanding taxes over the past two years, and we
are also seeing that they are not meeting the terms and
conditions of their five-year agreement with government.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister
today - this company has really inherited this entire
enterprise. Many people’s lives depend upon the jobs in
these particular plants and we have understood that
there has been a proposal to government for funding from
this company.
I ask the
minister today if he can confirm if that is the case or
not, and if so, can he tell me what that will do to
stabilize the industry and provide benefits to the
workers that are affected?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, I am certainly not aware
of funding that the company has requested to assist with
financial operations.
The OCI operations, as is other
processors and harvesters across the Province, often
submit applications to government under technology
programs, Mr. Speaker, that will help reduce, let’s say,
heating costs or fuel costs and costs of that nature.
That company would not be any different than any other
company or harvester within this particular Province.
So, Mr. Speaker, if that is what
she is referring to there has been an application to
that regard, but in terms of financial assistance around
operations, no, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, government’s
hand-picked consultant who completed a review of the air
ambulance services in the Northern region of our
Province has already proven that his work is
questionable by submitting a poorly researched report.
We also know that while he was in a leadership role with
the health care system in James Bay that he had major
issues with air ambulance, including an incident in 2009
that resulted in the death of an elderly patient.
I ask the minister:
Were you aware of these past incidents and why would you
hire an individual who has a questionable record of his
own in providing effective air ambulance service?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we hired a consultant
who had quite an extensive resume, who had worked in
various places throughout the country in various
capacities. This consultant reviewed, essentially, the
numbers that related to flights in and out of Labrador,
in and out of St. Anthony, and came to a conclusion at
the end of the day, Mr. Speaker, that the public could
best be served by the placement of the air ambulance in
Happy Valley-Goose Bay.
So, Mr. Speaker, I am not aware of
what the hon. member opposite is suggesting there, but
it is a very serious allegation to be making, and I am
hoping that he is simply not throwing this out for the
sake of ruining another person’s reputation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, in this week’s
Northern Pen, a reporter asked Mr. Drodge several
questions about the report and his response was no
comment. The reporter even asked: Do you have a comment
about anything at all? His response was no, no comment;
so again, another hand-picked consultant unwilling to
answer questions about the reports.
I ask the minister:
Is there a reason that this person
is refusing to comment on a report with such
ramifications in health care delivery in the Province,
especially if he truly believes in his recommendations?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, one of the issues
that we have looked at since the receipt of Mr. Drodge’s
report is the actual implementation of the
recommendations. So I have asked the supervisors of the
provincial air ambulance program, being the medical
director and also the paramedic in charge, to look at
the recommendations to see if they can be implemented.
At the end of the day, Mr. Speaker, a report prepared by
the Lab Grenfell employees accepts that the numbers put
forward by Mr. Drodge are accurate, and, in fact, Mr.
Speaker, the eight recommendations agree with
recommendations two to seven. The only disagreement that
the report prepared by the Lab Grenfell employees has is
with the placement of the air ambulance.
So, again, Mr. Speaker, there does
not appear to be any dispute with the numbers put
forward by Mr. Drodge, the recommendations put forward.
The only dispute relates to where the ambulance should
be.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, we have heard that
before, and I beg to differ, but nevertheless, the
reason Mr. Drodge refuses to speak basically is, in my
opinion, his report is a farce.
The Opposition office required
documents back in March related to Mr. Drodge’s research
for his report, paid the fees being charged, and now
government tells us we have to wait another two months
to receive the information. Another example of this
government breaking the access to information
legislation in an attempt to hide the information.
I ask the minister:
Why are you hiding this
information, or are you afraid it will prove how weak
this report really is?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I do not think there is anything
being hidden in terms of the cost. It is my
understanding, the cost of the report cost – we paid the
consultant around $10,000. That is my understanding.
That can be finalized by my department.
Mr. Speaker, what we have to look
at here is a basic issue of, where can we place the air
ambulance to best protect the people of this Province?
We have had a number of incidents in Labrador which are
very unfortunate, and which we are all aware of. The
placement of the air ambulance in Happy Valley-Goose
Bay, Mr. Speaker, will mean now that all people in this
Province will be within sixty minutes access to air
ambulance, a situation that did not exist in Lab West
while the air ambulance was in St. Anthony.
Secondly, Mr. Speaker, what we
looked at is, where are the greater number of people
living? We know that the population of the Labrador
region is at least twice that of the St. Anthony-Port au
Choix region. Thirdly, Mr. Speaker, we have to look at
the issue of the risk factor. There is a much greater
risk factor in Labrador right now, not only in relation
to population but in relation to heavy industrialization
of the area. When you look at all of these factors, Mr.
Speaker, the recommendations of Mr. Drodge are certainly
sensible, that we are looking at implementing them, and
we made significant Budget investments this year in…
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, I would suggest if the
minister would follow some of the things that were in
the Minister of Innovation, Trade and Rural
Development’s statement earlier, that it might have
helped in making his decision in the proper way.
Mr. Speaker, government has given
notice to air ambulance employees that the service will
be moved to Goose Bay on May 30. Obviously the minister
is rushing this decision; his actions will create more
problems in the system. One of the main recommendations
of the report was that the medevac flight team would be
there as well.
I ask the minister:
Will medevac teams with the
necessary flight medical specialities requirement be
available to fly in Goose Bay on May 30?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I think the hon. member is aware
that whether or not the air ambulance was placed in
either St. Anthony or Happy Valley-Goose Bay, the second
medical flight services team was announced in the Budget
this year. There is a period of time that we have to
advertise for these jobs, they are specialty jobs and
there has to be a training period. So, Mr. Speaker, we
are in that process of doing the hiring right now. It
will be a while before people are in place, but I can
assure the member opposite that we are looking at other
alternatives to ensure that air ambulance is provided to
all areas of this Province.
As I indicated, Mr. Speaker, when
I was in Lab West, there was a recommendation by the
doctors there that perhaps we should use Quebecair in
certain obstetrical emergencies, and we have agreed to
do that. What we are looking at now, Mr. Speaker, are
other alternatives here to ensure that the best possible
service is provided. We may have something to say on
that in the next couple of days, Mr. Speaker.
Thank you.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, the main recommendation
that made this work was the medevac team. Now we realize
that it will not be available in Goose Bay and all
medical flights basically in that case – all flights
will have to travel to St. John’s before responding to
an emergency. Moving the plane to Goose Bay will now add
an extra hour to the response time.
I ask the minister:
How will this increased delay in
the absence of the medical flight team - how will this
increased delay help patients and improve the air
medevac service in the Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
In this Budget, this year, we
announced a new plane which will be approximately $8
million. We also announced, Mr. Speaker, a second
medical flight services team which would cost about $1.1
million annually. Obviously, we have to do the hiring,
and until the announcement was made in the Budget we
could not begin that process.
Mr. Speaker, there will be a
period of time in which we will have to ensure that
services are available and as I have indicated, I am
currently in discussions right now with other groups to
achieve that end, Mr. Speaker. Earlier today, again, I
met with the air ambulance personnel for the Province.
We are going to be making changes to the way air
ambulance services are delivered in this Province in
terms of both dispatch and the availability. Mr.
Speaker, what we have to do is look at how do we get our
out-of-province residents out there in the best way
possible. So, the changes cannot all take place
overnight, Mr. Speaker, but they will take place and
what we will have is a stronger air ambulance system as
a result of this change.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, again, a very simple
question to the minister. The fact that we are moving
the aircraft without the medevac team means that that
plane has to fly from Goose Bay to St. John’s for the
team versus flying from St. Anthony to St. John’s.
My question is:
Why would we rush the relocation
of the plane before the medevac team is in place?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
One of the reasons that we have to
make this move and to make it as quickly as possible, we
have had a number of unfortunate incidents right now in
St. Anthony, at least one incident where a pilot has
refused to fly. So we have a situation where we have to
stabilize this situation. We are going to move that
plane to Happy Valley-Goose Bay as soon as possible. The
report came down on March 22, Mr. Speaker, and we cannot
allow for situations like this to arise in light of what
is going on. So we are going to move that plane as soon
as possible, it will be moved at the end of May.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, it is very
disappointing knowing the Premier’s commitment to an
objective study of what is happening in the Gulf of
Mexico, to then hear the Minister of Natural Resources
say that there is no intention of stopping exploratory
drilling in the Orphan Basin until government
understands more about what happened in the Gulf of
Mexico. Mr. Speaker, this thinking is counterintuitive.
It would make more sense to stop drilling until we know
what happened so that we can prevent such catastrophes.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the Premier:
Why government is not pressuring the C-NLOPB to stop the
drilling in the Orphan Basin until we know the results
of what is now an environmental catastrophe in the Gulf
of Mexico?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier and
Minister of Natural Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier,
there is always a risk when you are operating offshore.
What we need to know, as best we can, what is that risk
and how can we best mitigate it? We have confidence in
the plans that the C-NLOPB have put forward and the
federal government under the Environmental Protection
Act, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we are not going to
shut down our offshore under these circumstances. We
have a degree of security, as much as one can rely on,
that the proper measures and countermeasures are in
place. We will endeavour to learn more and do more as
best practices evolve, but we do not see a rationale, at
this point in time, for shutting down our offshore.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. Member for the District of
Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the minister talks
about risk - and I have heard her talk about the risk.
If an accident occurs in the Orphan Basin – and I am
talking about the Orphan Basin; we are talking about an
exploratory drilling rig, not the whole of our offshore
production. If we have an accident there similar to that
in the Gulf of Mexico, we can expect crude oil to spew
uninhibited into the North Atlantic for quite some time.
Mr. Speaker, today the minister is
saying that the people in our Province are used to risks
on the water. Mr. Speaker, this kind of an accident is
not an acceptable risk. I ask: Can the government
explain to the people of this Province why they are
willing to take this risk?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources and Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the
NDP’s premise is faulty. Unless she fully understands
the regulation and requirements that are in the United
States, which I suspect she does not, and compares them
to the regulation that we have here, Mr. Speaker, I do
not think she can make that kind of a statement.
In The Globe and Mail this
week, there was discussion about the requirements and
the lack of requirements in the United States with
regard to backup systems when a blowout prevention stack
fails. Mr. Speaker, there are requirements – one of
three – that are required here in this country. Mr.
Speaker, the Stena Carron has all three of those
capacities.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, oil industry
observers and analysts say the equipment needed to drill
a relief well would not be available fast enough should
there be a rupture in the Chevron well, which is 2,600
metres beneath the ocean. Mr. Speaker, the C-NLOPB say
that until they understand more about what is happening,
they do not see any reason to stop drilling.
Mr. Speaker, I have to question
both the C-NLOPB and the provincial government’s
reasoning. Why won’t they put a halt to this project
until we know how to deal with incidents so far beneath
the ocean? We have no idea.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources and Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, her premise is faulty
again that we do not have any idea. Indeed we do have
ideas, Mr. Speaker.
Now, Mr. Speaker, a relief well is
not the only fail-safe mechanism if a blowout prevention
stack fails. There are at least three more that have
been identified in this country - one of them is
required for drilling offshore. The Stena Carron has all
three capabilities on the rig, Mr. Speaker, plus it has
the option of drilling a relief well.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Question Period has been so quiet and
attentive the Speaker is reluctant to move on.
The time allotted for questions
and answers has expired.