MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, Multiple Sclerosis is
an incurable progressive disease that causes pain,
fatigue, and gradual paralysis. In November, MS patients
were made aware of a condition known as CCSVI, in which
the veins in the back of the neck and the chest become
blocked and fail to allow blood to drain properly from
the brain. This condition and latest research suggest
that while CCSVI does not cause MS, it is seen as a
causal factor and contributes to the progression of the
disease in many cases.
I ask the minister today:
If this test is available in the
Province to diagnose CCSVI, and if so, why is it not
being offered to MS patients?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, some time prior to
the Budget I met with the representatives of the MS
Society, or group, we discussed some of their needs and
there was money set aside in the Budget to deal with the
issues that were raised.
I was reading something yesterday,
Mr. Speaker, about this new research, and it is my
understanding that the researcher himself, and it may be
an Italian doctor – I am not sure right off – that he
was concerned whether or not patients should rush out at
this point in time to avail of this new procedure. So,
there is a lot of work to be done. Mr. Speaker, it is my
understanding that this is being reviewed right now in
Canada, and it is something that still is really
questionable as to whether or not it will serve the
purpose that it was initially thought to serve.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Many people who have MS are now
speaking out on this issue, Mr. Speaker, because they
want to have access to the test for CCSVI. Just last
week we talked to a thirty-six-year-old man who
travelled to Vancouver to have the test done because it
was not available to him in Newfoundland and Labrador.
On that same day he told us there was another
Newfoundlander at the clinic in Vancouver having it
done.
So, given there is a demand for
this test: Why are patients and
their family being denied access and forced to travel to
other regions of Canada to receive the test?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, I am aware of the
individual who the Leader of the Opposition refers to. I
also received e-mails from a number of other
individuals.
As a government, Mr. Speaker, we
are committed to providing the best quality health care
we can in this Province and we have done that in spades,
I would suggest, by the investment of a $2.7 billion
Budget this year. However, we are dealing with science
and when science accepts that certain procedures are
worthwhile we will certainly look at that.
It is my understanding, from the
reading I did yesterday, Mr. Speaker, that this
procedure is still questionable as to whether or not it
actually works and will achieve the purpose that was
originally thought. So, we will monitor this very
closely. My officials are watching it, and I can assure,
Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the Opposition and MS
patients in this Province that anything that we can do
to alleviate their condition and help their condition we
certainly will, but again, it has to be based on science
and research.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The minister should know that a
vascular surgeon did present to a sub-committee on
neurological disease in May of this month, in the last
couple of weeks, in terms of what the benefits are of
having this particular testing done in Canada.
I would ask the
minister, because he still has not told us, if this test
could be available in Newfoundland and Labrador?
Although we know it is not being conducted, we would
still like to know the answer to that, and we would also
like to know if government is prepared to support the
procedures that are required to treat CCSVI in this
Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
We have physicians in the
Department of Health, and we also have physicians who
work with the various regional health authorities who
look at procedures as they are brought forward and
determine whether or not they will be approved.
Now, again, I could be wrong on
this, and I will check and get back to the Leader of the
Opposition, but it is my understanding yesterday, Mr.
Speaker, that this procedure that she is referring to
has not been approved by any province in this country
right now as a proven technique for treating this
disease. So, it is a question of when and how it is
approved. If it is approved, Mr. Speaker, and it is
shown to work, we will be very open to funding it and to
providing the testing.
Again, it is my understanding that
as of this point in time, that the original research has
not proven to be reliable and that further research is
being carried out to determine whether or not the
original premise is correct.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
What we do know is that people in
this Province today are spending their own money to
travel to the Province of British Columbia. They are
spending money to pay to have this test done to
determine if there are blockages, and some of them are
even seeking to have the surgery done in Poland.
I say to the minister, based on
the fact that there are presentations to the federal
committee, Mr. Speaker, on neurology diseases in the
country, and based on the fact that people in our
Province are going elsewhere to have this done:
Will you at least undertake to
tell us whether this particular procedure can be offered
in Newfoundland and Labrador, and if so, if your
government will move to provide it for people?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
When I met with the
representatives of the MS Society I was very sympathetic
to the plight they found themselves in. I listened
closely to what they had to say in terms of the needs
they required and we addressed some of those needs in
the Budget. I recently, Mr. Speaker, met with another
doctor who was very familiar with MS.
I can liken this, Mr. Speaker, to
the Prescription Drug Program. Oftentimes we will get
requests for drugs that are experimental or drugs that
are not proven at this point in time by research to be
effective, safe and reliable. So, there is a body that
reviews these drugs, for example, and determines when
they will be added to the drugs that we will provide.
Well, a similar procedure has to be adopted, or process
has to be adopted, Mr. Speaker, in relation to any
medical procedure. What we have is, from my
understanding, a researcher or scientist who says there
is a link between this particular procedure and dealing
with MS.
Now, Mr. Speaker, if that link is
proven to be correct - and it is my understanding that
across North America right now tests are being carried
out and research is being carried out. I will probably
even address this later on this afternoon in the House,
Mr. Speaker, and update the public of this Province as
to the steps that have been taken and what we, as a
government, are willing to do.
Thank you.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
In our discussion in the House of
Assembly related to the Province’s preparedness for an
offshore oil spill, the Minister of Natural Resources
has continuously stated that we are prepared to deal
with such an incident. It was reported last week that
Chevron warned regulators five years ago that it would
be unable to clean up a major spill offshore. They also
confirm that the same challenges exist today with their
Orphan Basin project, the deepest offshore well in
Canada.
So I ask the minister:
How can you say that we are ready
to deal with such a disaster when the company doing the
drilling has said the very opposite?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources and Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the regulation of our
offshore is a responsibility that is shared between the
federal government and ourselves, the Province of
Newfoundland and Labrador. The arm that deals with the
regulation is our board, the Canada-Newfoundland and
Labrador Offshore Petroleum Board, Mr. Speaker, and they
have requirements for oil spill prevention and in terms
of a reaction to an oil spill. Those procedures go
through a public process, a private process, and they
are made known to the public at large.
They are risks that we undertake
in this Province, in this country, and around the world.
There is no guarantee that this activity is risk free.
It is not, Mr. Speaker. We understand the risk; we
mitigate the risk as best we can.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
We know the process. We are
wondering about the preparedness, Minister, of dealing
with a disaster.
Mr. Speaker, in the report Chevron
also estimates that only 2 per cent to 12 per cent of an
offshore oil spill could be retrieved under typical
environmental conditions. They stated that physical
recovery of spilled oil off the coast of Newfoundland
will be extremely difficult and inefficient.
I ask the Minister of Environment:
In light of those statements,
what confidence do you have that our marine environment
would not be severely impacted by such a spill?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, again, as I said in
my earlier answer, this is about known risk and what we
can do to mitigate that risk.
We understand the impact of an oil
spill in our offshore and we have a fairly good
understanding of what might happen in that instance.
This lies within the purview of the C-NLOPB, our
regulator. As I have said before, we have a Chief
Conservation Officer. We have a tiered response plan in
case of a spill, and, Mr. Speaker, we have a very strong
spill prevention program as well.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
We have yet to hear the Minister
of Environment speak on this issue at all, and all we
hear from the Minister of Natural Resources is passing
the buck to someone else.
Now, Mr. Speaker, we know that the
C-NLOPB announced last week improved monitoring of the
Orphan Basin drilling project; however, when approved,
this project did not require a comprehensive study to be
completed as was the normal process.
I ask the
minister why the rules would be relaxed for an
exploration project that is in deeper water than has
ever been drilled off our shores.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the minister –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Again, a point of clarification for
the Leader of the Opposition – I have to do this every
day, Mr. Speaker. Our Minister of Environment is not
responsible for the offshore. That all falls within the
purview of the federal government, Mr. Speaker, through
the board of the C-NLOPB. I am surprised you do not know
that.
Mr. Speaker, the regulations were
not relaxed. We are currently undergoing a thorough
review, a thorough review of our oil spill prevention
and response. That will be done within ninety days. Mr.
Speaker, we will see at that point if we need to do
further strengthening of our rules.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I guess that sums it all up when
the Minister of Environment is not responsible for
anything to do with the environment in offshore oil and
gas projects in this Province. Now that makes a whole
lot of sense I would say to the Minister of Natural
Resources.
What we do know is that the C-NLOPB
has said that they will do more monitoring and they will
do more visits to the site. However, I ask the minister:
Why are we not requiring that
there be independent monitors and observers on these
platforms because what they have not told is how that is
going to be done and who is going to do it?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Mr. Speaker, again we have a perfect
example of the calibre of knowledge from which these
questions come. They do not even know what the mandate
of the Minister of Environment and Conservation is for
the people of Newfoundland and the Province of
Newfoundland and Labrador.
Mr. Speaker, three of the four
members of the Official Opposition sat in government,
approved projects - something they like to boast about
on a regular basis here in the House - and they do not
know what part of the offshore that the Province is
responsible for and what part that the federal
government is responsible for - shameful, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It is quite obvious the minister
has no answers herself. She has no knowledge, so you
attack the messenger, attack the one who is asking the
questions because they have no gauge on what is
happening out there offshore today and if we are
prepared to deal with a disaster in this Province if one
should occur.
Mr. Speaker, it was reported over
the weekend in The Globe and Mail that British
Petroleum, the company responsible for the oil spill off
the coast of Louisiana, is now going to try a top kill
approach to stop the oil which involves pumping heavy
mud into the oil well to stop the flow. If this fails
they are saying their backup plan includes a junk shot
in which golf balls, shredded tires - of which we have
lots we know – knotted rope and other materials are used
to clog the well.
I ask the minister:
Does she see this as a backup plan
to deal with a disaster in the oil industry in
Newfoundland and Labrador if one should occur, or is she
prepared to put forward what the actual plan and the
options are?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, of the many
attributes that the Leader of the Opposition might have,
expertise in oil spill response, I will guarantee you,
sir, are not one of them.
Now, Mr. Speaker, we have a board
and expertise within that board that deals with that
whole piece. We are watching carefully what is happening
in the Gulf. If she is watching half as closely as we
are, she will know, at least from the anecdotal
information at this point, that it was human error that
caused the spill in the Gulf of Mexico.
Mr. Speaker, we have the C-NLOPB
who has lay on an extra layer of vigilance and
surveillance, and we have an independent review of our
oil prevention and oil spill response. At the end of all
of that piece of work, Mr. Speaker, we will see if
further amendments need to be made.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The minister’s answers today say
it all. They have no idea how they would deal with a
disaster offshore in this Province. Two weeks ago
everything was fine, now we have the main company,
Chevron, out there saying that in the case of a disaster
they are unable or unprepared to deal with it, Mr.
Speaker, and we get no answers from the government.
Mr. Speaker, the Premier stated on
May 3 that the impact of a spill on our ocean
environment would be limited because of the viscosity of
the oil off our shores.
I ask the Premier today if he
could clarify what he meant by this comment.
Would the oil simply sink to the
bottom affecting the ocean floor, would it rise to the
top affecting the sea birds, or would it just destroy
all fish habitat in the ocean, Mr. Speaker?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, it would be helpful
if the Leader of the Opposition associated herself in
some way with the science that has been done around
these issues before she asks the question.
Mr. Speaker, in terms of an oil
spill offshore, the greatest vulnerability will exist to
the bird population. Mr. Speaker, based on forty to
fifty years of wind study it is shown that oil –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS DUNDERDALE:
- because of the wave action and the
coldness of the sea, Mr. Speaker, breaks up and
disperses.
Mr. Speaker, we had an oil spill
in 2004 on the Terra Nova. Mr. Speaker, that oil
dispersed, broke up, and went away. Ocean floor studies
have been done, Mr. Speaker, there is no evidence of oil
from that oil spill on the floor around our Terra Nova
project.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, today we understand a
Twin Otter will be flying to St. Anthony to remove parts
and equipment related to the air ambulance move to Goose
Bay. Two of the recommendations of the Drodge report
included a new airplane to be stationed in St. John’s
and a medevac team to be stationed in Happy Valley-Goose
Bay with the aircraft. Neither of these recommendations
will obviously be implemented in the foreseeable future.
So therefore, there is no basis for interfering with our
present air ambulance program.
I ask the minister:
If you are accepting the
recommendations of this report in its entirety, how are
you able to move the plane out of St. Anthony before the
other necessary pieces are in place?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of Health
and Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, thank you, Mr. Speaker.
As we have indicated on numerous
occasions, we are satisfied that the placement of the
air ambulance in Happy Valley-Goose Bay is the best
placement that serves the majority of people and in the
best interest of the people of this Province.
Mr. Speaker, we announced a new
medical flight services team in this year’s Budget,
along with a new plane. The plane in St. Anthony will be
moved to Happy Valley-Goose Bay. I have explained in
this House on a number of occasions, that it takes
anywhere from six months to a year to recruit and train
a medical flight services team. That we will embark upon
that process, Mr. Speaker, and we are looking at other
options as we go along here in terms of trying to ensure
that there are medical flight service personnel
available.
I can indicate, and I have given
instructions to my officials, that until the court case
is heard on Friday that there will be no parts, nothing
will be moved until a ruling is made by the court in
that respect. So, Mr. Speaker, at the end of it all,
this is a matter that we have already discussed in
detail. There is nothing that has been brought forward
that will change our mind and the plane will move in the
very near future.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Again, I think it is worthy to
note that what makes that move work, so to speak, in
that report is the availability of this new aircraft and
the medevac team.
Mr. Speaker, the Premier is quick
to use the courts when it involves Abitibi and
Hydro-Quebec but unwilling to allow the process to -
when he is being challenged, and the minister just
indicated that nothing will move or that is correct
until that case is heard, but we submitted an access to
information request for information relating to the
Drodge report, and we were presented with a significant
bill, which we agreed to pay for the information, but
now we are being told, in contravention of the time
frames legislated in the Access to Information Act, that
we will not be provided access to these documents until
at least June 19.
I ask the minister:
Why are you hiding this
information, and are you hoping the plane will be gone
before it is released?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Health and
Community Services.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KENNEDY:
Yes, Mr. Speaker.
First, I have no idea what the
member is talking about in terms of hiding information.
We have been totally upfront with all the information
relating to the air ambulance, Mr. Speaker. We have
provided Mr. Drodge’s report. I indicated the cost of
the report recently, and I have outlined, Mr. Speaker,
that there are certain discussions ongoing now in terms
of the implementation of the Drodge recommendations and
how we operationalize the report.
Mr. Speaker, any information that
is accessible by the Protection of Privacy Act is
something that the Liberal Opposition is certainly
entitled to. As for the deadlines or what is being
imposed upon them, Mr. Speaker, if they do not like
that, my understanding is that the Privacy Commissioner
can deal with that, but I can assure the member opposite
that there is absolutely nothing to hide here. We have
received the report from the Lab-Grenfell employees. We
reviewed that in detail, Mr. Speaker, and again, as I
have indicated, the plane will move and it will move
very shortly.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the Northern
Peninsula Region, along with many other rural areas of
Newfoundland, continues to be hit hard by decisions that
are being made by this government. Now residents in the
Anchor Point and Black Duck Cove area are expressing
concern about shrimp resource landed on the Peninsula
but trucked off the coast, upwards of twelve hours away,
while two local plants remain closed up today.
I ask the Minister of Fisheries:
Can he explain to the people of
the area why this is being allowed to happen, this
injustice that really is affecting their livelihoods and
is compromising their living?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, I had hoped that the
hon. member would recognize that a fish product landed
in one particular area has no restrictions to stay in
that particular area. We ship cod all across this
Province.
Mr. Speaker, if my memory is
correct, last year at one point shrimp was shipped in
from Port Union, I believe, on to the Northern
Peninsula, and we had shrimp that came in from Nova
Scotia on to the Northern Peninsula. As of today, Mr.
Speaker, we have the plant in Anchor Point, I believe
the maintenance people were in there, and that should be
open soon. Black Duck Cove, I believe that will be open
today or within the next couple of days, and the two OCI
plants on the Peninsula, Mr. Speaker, are up and
operating.
So, we know that there has been
some delay in the fishery starting because of the price
setting panel. Mr. Speaker, that is something that we
spent a fair amount of time with this year and we hope
that we will not find ourselves with delayed opening of
the season in the coming years, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, part of the problem
is the issue of the protection that was put in place
back in the 1990s to ensure that shrimp was not trucked
off the coast but instead processed by the plant. This
cap was lifted by this government during the failed
attempts to impose the RMS.
I ask the minister:
Are you prepared to reinstate this
protection to ensure that shrimp does remain in the
region in plants, at places like Anchor Point and Black
Duck Cove, have the raw material they need when the
season opens?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, as I have indicated,
many of these plants are – some of them are open and
others will be open in the next few days.
What will be the policies in the
future, Mr. Speaker? I cannot speak to it right now. We
certainly hope and we put a lot of faith in this MOU
process whereby we should address a number of issues, in
particular around the structure of the fishery, where
plants are located, so on and so forth.
So, Mr. Speaker, we will wait and
see what the outcome of that is, but right now we are
pleased that the plants are opening up. We are
disappointed in the delay that it has taken because of
the price setting mechanisms that are in place, but, Mr.
Speaker, we will wait and see what results will come of
our MOU process.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, I raise the issue of
DFO’s Northern shrimp quota cut in the House last week
and the devastating impact that it will have on the
Northern Peninsula, especially since NAFTA will lose its
special allocation of Area 6. This will mean an income
loss of over 350 fishing enterprises in this region
alone.
Given that this quota cut is an
extremely important issue for all members of the House,
I ask the minister: Is he
prepared to strike an all-party committee of this House
to exert pressure on the federal government to alter its
last-in first-out approach and base this quota instead
on the principles of a fair decrease and on adjacency of
the resource?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, on April 26, on hearing
about this possibility, last-in first-out option, I
wrote a letter to Minister Shea. Since then I have a
call put in that I want to go to Ottawa to meet with
Minister Shea. Today, I will sign a letter to send off
to her again expressing disappointment that this was the
decision that was made despite our submission that we
did not agree with that.
We still think that all sectors of
the shrimp industry that are involved in this cut, the
cut should be shared evenly. Mr. Speaker, I will make
that point in my trip to Ottawa. As to future actions
that we will take, that will remain to be seen, Mr.
Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quid Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
My questions today relate to the
AbitibiBowater sites environmental cleanup. The Premier
says that we are better off because we have the
AbitibiBowater assets, and the Province will use those
assets to counter any liabilities incurred. So he says
we are in a net positive position, Mr. Speaker. By the
Premier’s own admission, the mill is not really much of
an asset; the real assets are the forest resources and
the hydro power.
So I ask the Premier, Mr. Speaker,
to explain to us what the government is going to do to
turn these so-called assets into real benefits that will
put our books in the net positive situation that he
talks about, taking into account the cost of the
environmental cleanup.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, I am sure the Member for
Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi understands that anything that I
may say in answer to that question would only help the
Abitibi case in the NAFTA dispute. It is not available
for me to do that, to be quite honest with you. What she
does also clearly understand, though, is that without
the expropriation of those assets we would have nothing.
So, if you start to stack any of those liabilities,
whether they are environmental liabilities, whether it
is the generous severance that we paid to the workers,
whether it is costs that we have had to use in order to
represent the interests of the people of Newfoundland
and Labrador, we would have nothing to offset against
it. By way of example, and this is a very simple
example, the land that we recovered, the land alone that
we recovered for the people of Newfoundland and Labrador
- forget the water rights, forget the timber rights - is
three times the size of Prince Edward Island.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the Premier knows
that hydro from the Abitibi assets cannot currently be
incorporated into the provincial power grid because of
technical issues. This means that Newfoundland and
Labrador Hydro cannot gain access to the power unless
huge investments are made to upgrade the grid. The
Minister of Natural Resources is on record saying that
she is waiting for another major business to arrive in
Central Newfoundland that can use the power; that was
her hope. Mr. Speaker, how long are we to wait? Five,
ten, twenty years?
I ask the Premier: How long are we
going to have to wait before these assets are turned
into real benefits, instead of pinning everything on
phantom hopes?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, as Abitibi went
through its crisis, struggling and stumbling on its way
to bankruptcy, where it finds itself today, the
overwhelming plea we heard from the people of Central
Newfoundland in particular was: Please, do not let them
go with our natural resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Give us, give our children, and give
our grandchildren, the opportunity to earn their living
once again from the land and from our hydro assets.
Mr. Speaker, we are not writing
off Central Newfoundland. We may not have an industrial
customer at the moment looking for that power, but that
day will come, Mr. Speaker. When that day does come, we
will have the assets to do something with, to drive
economic development in that part of the Province, Mr.
Speaker, once again.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Since that is so important - I
agree it is - I am asking the Premier: Are they out
looking for that major industrial customer to make that
happen? That is the question I am asking.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we had an Expression
of Interest where we looked at a number of proposals for
economic development around the fibre, particularly in
Central Newfoundland. While we have not had the results
that we are looking for particularly from that
Expression of Interest, Mr. Speaker; I am happy to say
that we have had an Expression of Interest from Germany
last week, principals in, looking at what we have to
offer in Central Newfoundland. We are very hopeful about
that prospect, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The time allotted for questions and
answers has expired.