MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, yesterday the
Minister of Finance indicated that government had
reduced the number of VLTs in the Province by 26 per
cent. This morning he noted that the Atlantic Lottery
Corporation has declining revenues partially because of
these moves and are looking for new ways to make money.
They see the future as getting into on-line casino
gambling. So on one hand the minister is promoting the
reduction of VLTs, on the other hand he has allowed
himself to be open to creating a whole new problem with
on-line casino gambling.
I ask the minister:
If you are committing to
addressing gambling addictions in the Province, why
would you even entertain the idea of introducing on-line
casino gambling through the Atlantic Lottery
Corporation?
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Minister of Finance
and President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. MARSHALL:
Mr. Speaker, the ALC has indicated,
the Atlantic Lottery Corporation, which is owned by the
four Atlantic Provinces, has indicated an interest in
getting into on-line gambling because of the fact there
are over 2,000 sites, 2,000 illegal sites that people
can access right now, and they want to do it to offer
more responsible gambling. Our government has not made
any decision on whether we are going to support that
initiative or not. That is something that we will
consider at some time in the future. The only people
that I know, who are actually supporting on-line
gambling, are the Liberal Party in Prince Edward Island
and the Liberal Party in New Brunswick.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
What the Liberal Party does in
other provinces has no reflection on us, I say to the
minister. You have certainly liked to distance yourself
from your federal cousins in Ottawa on many occasions.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS JONES:
Mr. Speaker, the minister did state
that on-line casino gambling is happening anyway, so it
would be better to have it regulated and make money from
it. He stated this morning on the Open Line show that
government can hide in the sand or they can get into it.
I say to the minister:
If you are committed to reducing
the number of addictions and the number of VLTs in this
Province, why would you even consider going into on-line
gambling? Why isn’t the Province of Newfoundland and
Labrador saying no today?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. MARSHALL:
Mr. Speaker, what I did today, is I
pointed out the various arguments that are being made
pro and con. One of the things involved when we deal
with gambling, there are very strong views on all of the
issues that come up - very strong views.
I will just note that Jeff
Derevensky, who is co-director of McGill University’s
International Centre for Youth Gambling, referred to the
on-line industry’s arsenal of technology saying, "You
have the opportunity to do (consumer protection) better
than other forms of gambling." So there are very strong
arguments in favour of it, Mr. Speaker, and there are
arguments against it. Government will consider the
evidence from all sources and in due course we will come
to a consensus as to how we are going to move forward.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I say to the minister, if we were
to legalize drugs, such as cocaine in the Province, we
would make money off it and we would be able to regulate
it as well, but it does not dismiss the impact that it
has on people.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the minister:
Why would the Province even
consider introducing a new legal form of gambling that
will most likely target and affect younger people in
this Province, creating addictions for them at a much
younger age?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. MARSHALL:
Mr. Speaker, again, this government
has not made a decision as to how it is going to go. We
are going to consider all options.
When you talk about youth
gambling, I note that the study that the Leader of the
NDP referred to yesterday said that young people had
engaged in one gambling activity of eight of them and
the least common reported activity is with Internet
gambling.
Mr. Speaker, as I said, there are
arguments pro and con. Why don’t we banish alcohol? That
argument comes up as well. We are going to consider the
evidence that each group puts forward and we will make a
decision in due course.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Yesterday the minister stated that
he did not know how much the Province would potentially
make in revenues from this type of gambling. However, we
do know that the Atlantic Lottery Corporation has
already done a lot of the work on this initiative in
completing the cost estimates.
I ask the minister:
What were the preliminary estimates that have been
supplied to your government from the Atlantic Lotto
Corporation?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. MARSHALL:
I cannot recall the total right now.
We have to remember, there are 2,000 sites out there
worldwide that people in this Province can access. That
is totally unregulated. They can do it from their homes.
I believe the number, and I will have to check this, is
that they feel we can make a potential $55 million from
on-line gambling revenue, if it were introduced.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
On April 10,
2008, the former Minister of Education informed the
House of Assembly that the government had no plans to
close the School for the Deaf. I ask the minister today,
if that is still the case?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, our intentions for the
School for the Deaf have not changed since the previous
minister spoke in this House. The School for the Deaf
still operates and we still offer governmental support
to the same degree that we have in the past couple of
years. There are no changes at this point in time from
government.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Government has announced its
intentions to build a new school for the west end of St.
John’s.
I ask the minister:
Will the School for the Deaf and
the adjacent properties be the site of this new school,
and if so, will the current buildings be renovated or
incorporated into the new school design?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, the member opposite is
asking me to draw a lot of conclusions and make a lot of
assumptions. The future of the School for the Deaf – as
I said before, we have no intentions and have not laid
any plans to do anything with that school at this point
in time. The member opposite knows full well that as
demographics change and student enrolments change and
parent choices change, we will react accordingly. I am
not going to speculate on where that will be at any time
in the future.
With respect to the announcement
for the new west end high school, we have done just
that. We have announced a commitment, as a government,
to the people of the west end of this region that we
will build a new facility. There is a long established
process in place, Mr. Speaker, that engages school
councils and school boards to identify possible sites
for the construction of new schools and through that
process a list of possibilities will be brought forward
to the Department of Education for consideration. Mr.
Speaker, that is a long ways out, so pretty well
everything that has been asked by the member opposite is
purely speculative.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Well, maybe the minister can tell
me where we are in the process of site selection for the
new west end school, and if he can table in the House of
Assembly or indicate to the public what sites are being
considered?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, what I can say to the
member opposite is we are not much more than two months
beyond a Budget announcement of a commitment. We are in
a process of trying to spend $121 million on
infrastructure and maintenance work in this Province,
Mr. Speaker, and that project –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
- will proceed as we can turn our
attention to it. What we have done is we have notified
the school board of our commitment and we have also
indicated to the school board that we want them to start
giving consideration to sites. At some point in time, we
will appoint a consultant who will do a review for that
as will be done for any new school construction
projects, Mr. Speaker.
Everything else that the member
opposite is asking is assuming that I am going to
speculate and make assumptions here, which I am not
prepared to do.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
We also know that government is
building two new K-6 schools in Paradise because of the
growing population of children and young families in the
community. Once these children enter junior high and
high school they will be forced to travel to Mount Pearl
or Conception Bay South and overcrowding will certainly
become an issue.
I ask the minister:
With a demonstrated need for a
junior high and high school facilities in Paradise, has
government initiated any plans at this stage to build
those schools?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Education.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
Mr. Speaker, let me share with the
House what we have done in instances where there has
been a demonstrated need.
Out in Torbay, Mr. Speaker, there
was a demonstrated need because of population growth,
what did we do? We announced a new school for that area.
Mr. Speaker, out in Placentia there was a demonstrated
need for a new facility because of ongoing maintenance
and repair issues, what did we do? We built a new
facility.
Mr. Speaker, the member opposite
has asked about Paradise, I was in a former job at that
the time that that discussion was initiated and we
encountered a number of problems out there, one of which
was population growth. What has this government done? We
are building two new K-6 schools, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. KING:
I submit to the member opposite the
record of this government is that we will work
co-operatively with the school board and with the
communities and the people out there. We act when it is
appropriate, Mr. Speaker, but we are not in the process,
nor in the habit, of building schools based on what-ifs
five and ten years down the road.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
So the minister is saying that
there is no demonstrated need for a school for junior
high and high school in the Paradise area.
Mr. Speaker, Tuesday, the Minister
of Natural Resources stated that an oil spill off our
coast would not be of great concern because we had an
oil spill in 2004 on the Terra Nova. That oil dispersed,
broke up and went away was her quote. Well the oil spill
in 2004 was only 200 barrels versus the 70,000 per day
barrels that we are seeing currently taking place of the
coast of Louisiana. It is like comparing an eye dropper,
Mr. Speaker, to a fire hose and it shows the minister’s
lack of understanding of what is happening.
I ask the minister today:
Besides the 2004 incident of an
oil spill, what other examples are available to show how
a major spill off our coast would react?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Natural
Resources and Deputy Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, my answer, earlier in
the week, was to a question directed to me by the Leader
of the Opposition as to what happened to oil in an oil
spill. I answered in terms of our own direct experience
with an oil spill that we had in 2004 when wind and wave
action had dispersed and help vaporize the oil, and
subsequent studies of the sea floor showed that there
had been no settlement of oil on the sea floor or no
damage to the environment that was able to be observed.
Mr. Speaker, if she is going to
twist that into a comparison to what is happening in the
Gulf, there is not much I can do about it, but that is
not the question that was asked, and that is not the
question that was answered.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The minister might want to read
her own response in Hansard, but certainly the 2004
incident is not even comparable to what we are looking
at in the world today.
Mr. Speaker, government, through
Nalcor, owns equity stakes in our oil and gas projects,
yet they are also responsible for providing
environmental regulations to the industry. We know that
adhering to environmental best practices is not always
the priority to stakeholders who are trying to make
money. Government also makes political appointments to
the C-NLOPB to ensure the Province’s interests are
represented.
So I ask the minister, now that
you are a developer and an equity owner in the oil
industry, why would you not
support the concept of independent monitors on rigs to
remove any perception of conflict?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier and
Minister of Natural Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, let me say it is very
difficult to have a discussion with the Leader of the
Opposition about responsibility for the environment when
she demonstrated in the House earlier the week she does
not even understand what level of government
environmental responsibility for the offshore comes
under. She was attributing to the Minister of
Environment and Conservation, who has no responsibility
beyond the high water mark.
It is really disturbing, Mr.
Speaker, when it comes from a former Minister of
Fisheries for the Government of Newfoundland and
Labrador who should have understood that her
responsibility did not go any further than that either
as far as the offshore was concerned.
Mr. Speaker, science has shown
that independent monitoring on the rig is not the best
way to do oil spill surveillance. The best way to do it
is from the air. That is what is being done on a regular
basis in our offshore.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
All we ever hear from the minister
opposite is rhetoric and insults. Of course, we continue
to hear her trying to defend the Minister of
Environment, who really has no handle on the
environment, but that is beside the point, Mr. Speaker.
Maybe the
minister could tell me why, as a developer and an
interest earner in the oil and gas industry –
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS JONES:
- that they
are not prepared to put independent monitors and
observers on these platforms, but yet support
independent observers on fishing vessels in this
Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier and
Minister of Natural Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Mr. Speaker, one of those persons,
one of those inspectors is inspecting, counting fish and
measuring fish coming on a vessel. Mr. Speaker, it is
hard to do that from 20,000 feet.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Mr. Speaker, to spot an oil spill on
our ocean, the most effective way to do that is from
20,000 feet or less.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
The minister knows that you cannot
monitor what is happening on the rig and on the platform
from thousands of feet in the air. The minister knows
that, Mr. Speaker. She is making light of a very serious
issue in this Province today that could cost us, as
Newfoundlanders and Labradorians, down the road.
I say to the minister: In light of
what is happening in the Gulf of Mexico today, and how
the ecosystem and the environment is being destroyed
because of a spill in this industry,
why will you, as a government, not
take a proactive role and put a task force in place to
monitor the environmental regulations in the oil
industry in this Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier and
Minister of Natural Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Mr. Speaker, we had a discussion
earlier in Question Period about gambling, and I am
going to indulge myself at the moment, Mr. Speaker,
because I am willing to lay money that the Leader of the
Opposition knows no more about what the regulation is in
the United States with regard to drilling than the man
in the moon.
Mr. Speaker, the C-NLOPB is having
a technical briefing on Monday of next week to talk
about oil spill prevention and oil spill response. I
suggest very strongly that members of the Opposition
take advantage of that briefing and try to find out a
little more about what they are asking questions about,
Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Mr. Speaker, we have an independent
review ongoing in this Province. When that review is
completed and recommendations are made we will consider
them and then I will talk to the federal minister who
shares responsibility in this to see if we need to do
further work.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, earlier this month in
this House I highlighted the need for a community voice
in the MOU process. The Minister of Fisheries responded
by saying that community representation is a key to the
evolution of the fishery, as he termed it, and it was
encouraging to hear him acknowledge this.
Based on that recognition, I ask
the minister today: Will he
commit to formally including community representation in
the MOU process, specifically by modifying the agreement
itself, so that communities will have a direct voice in
the industry as it undergoes the many changes required
in the months and years ahead?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, it is certainly
important that communities have a say in where the
future of the fishery is going to be in this Province.
Right now, the MOU process, Mr. Speaker, we have working
groups within that and progress is being made. The group
met last week and those discussions are ongoing.
Mr. Speaker, at the appropriate
time, when we feel and the process feels there is a
place for community input, then we will be seeking it.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, the minister stated in a
press release on March 18, there was an analysis of
marketing issues facing the industry and he expected
this report in a couple of months. It has now been over
two months since that release.
While the minister indicated in
his MOU, a progress report yesterday, that the marketing
group is actively engaged in this task, I ask the
minister today: Will he
indicate to this House when this important work is now
expected to be completed?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, one of the things that
came out of the talks this year around establishing a
price and so forth, was an acknowledgement and an
agreement between both sides in that discussion that
there is a need for a marketing strategy here.
Mr. Speaker, I am certainly hoping
that both sides will remain true to that commitment. Mr.
Speaker, if that is indeed the case, for the next coming
fishing season we should see something in place that
will allow us to market our products in a much more
reasonable and strategic way. As a result, Mr. Speaker,
have better results for prices for harvesters and
processors.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, during the crab dispute
the government was reluctant to step in and help resolve
the impasse with any investments, citing the risk of a
NAFTA challenge. As the minister admits, the MOU process
will certainly entail some sort of rationalization and
therefore financial assistance.
I ask the minister:
Will the government consider
commissioning a report that would investigate
investments that are possible under NAFTA as the MOU
process unfolds? Clearly, on this issue it
will be critical to the success of any recommended
changes to the fishery.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
I swear, Mr. Speaker, I swear that
these people – the Opposition wants another report. I
swear to God, they are sounding like they want another
report.
Mr. Speaker, the plan; we have an
MOU process in place, Mr. Speaker, and we will let that
MOU process unfold. We expect and we anticipate that
there will be good results coming from that.
Mr. Speaker, the people who can
make a difference in the fishery of this Province are
sitting at the table: the union, the processors and
government, Mr. Speaker. I can assure you one thing,
that we as a government will do what we can to support
that process.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Mr. Speaker, they must be giving out
funny pills across the House today or something or
other.
AN HON. MEMBER:
(Inaudible).
MR. DEAN:
Yes, I know.
Mr. Speaker, you got to have funny
questions for funny people. In the two sittings of the
House that I have been here, Mr. Speaker, I have never
heard an answer to a question, so you might as well ask
something that will get a funny response.
Earlier this month, I also
questioned the minister on the status of the New Ferolle
plant on the Northern Peninsula. I understand a meeting
was held a couple of weeks ago with the owner, Greg
Mullowney, who again promised the residents of the plant
that it would reopen. Other than a few pieces of old
furniture and dated equipment going into the facility,
the plant remains idle and it is increasingly
frustrating for the residents.
I would again ask the minister:
What is the status of the plant
today in terms of operating this season and why is the
owner not being more accountable to the people of New
Ferolle and the area?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, there is nothing funny
about the questions that the member opposite is asking -
I do not think there is.
Anyway, Mr. Speaker, the New
Ferolle plant, as he indicated, Mr. Mullowney still, as
far as we have been informed, intends to open that
plant. We have a number of plants on the Northern
Peninsula that opened this week. The Member for St.
Barbe has met with the group, he has met with me, and we
will continue to monitor that, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, we will continue to
monitor that, and the frustrations that the people have,
Mr. Speaker, we will hopefully find a resolution to it.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Well, the member has met, Mr.
Speaker, I guess the problem is resolved, we will leave
it there. Mr. Speaker, I will just wait for -
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of The Straits & White Bay North.
MR. DEAN:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
They met last year as well, and of
course we all know how much work they had last season.
Given the uncertainty that has plagued this plant in the
past several years the plant committee in that community
has sent a letter to the Minister of Fisheries
requesting that the processing licence be transferred
back to the community.
I ask the minister today:
Will he grant this request, and
indeed, will he commit to sitting down with those
concerned citizens to discuss this matter and help them
bring stability to their community?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Fisheries
and Aquaculture.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. JACKMAN:
Mr. Speaker, more than willing to sit
with any group at any time. Secondly, when the letter
comes forward, we will give it consideration at that
time.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Port de Grave.
MR. BUTLER:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
My questions are for the Minister
of Environment and Conservation. Mr. Speaker, I
double-checked my questions, they are all above the
high-water mark so hopefully she will be able to answer
them.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I ask the hon. member to pose his
question.
MR. BUTLER:
Mr. Speaker, yesterday -
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MR. BUTLER:
Mr. Speaker, yesterday I asked the
minister about a tender that was recently advertised in
The Telegram for a turnkey operation for the
compaction and redistribution of the tires stored in
Dunville. The minister stated that they have a proposal
that will hopefully come on stream and this tender will
make it easier to ship the tires.
I ask the minister:
We have heard similar speculation
from this government over the past seven years, Mr.
Speaker, what is the nature of this proposal and when
can we expect to see something concrete announced?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, if the Leader of the
Opposition was so concerned about the environment and
offshore she should have asked me a question where
jurisdiction does fall under my department and that is
when the oil reaches the land, Mr. Speaker. The reason
that she did not do that, Mr. Speaker, is because the
fourteen years that they were in power when there was a
very active oil industry, not one policy, not one
procedure, not one person hired to develop policies to
put in place when the oil should reach land. That is why
she has not asked me a question, Mr. Speaker.
To the question of the hon. member
opposite about tires, we have been actively involved
with trying to find resolutions to the tires. In the
interim, we are trying to find ways to cut costs. That
is why we put out the recent tender in terms of baling.
It is also a safer method, in terms of the hydraulic
compression of the tires, there is less opportunity for
air to get in, and there are less trucks that will be
required once the final plan is in place.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the 2007 Student Drug
Use Survey commissioned by the governments of the
Atlantic Provinces reported that 23 per cent of students
in Grades 7, 9, 10, and 12 had played on an Internet
gambling site with money or points, and 5.1 per cent had
played for money.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS MICHAEL:
Mr. Speaker, the minister continues
to say that government has not made any decisions on
allowing on-line poker, which is being promoted by
Atlantic Lottery Corporation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
MS MICHAEL:
Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister of
Finance: Has the Atlantic Lottery Corporation given the
Department of Finance any risk assessment reports
documenting the potential risk of on-line poker?
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Oh, oh!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
I say to the hon. Leader of the
Opposition that her time has been allotted earlier to
ask questions.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Every time that the Member for the
District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi stands to ask a
question in this House, she is drowned out by members
shouting back and forth. I ask members for their
co-operation and respect for the members that are asking
questions.
Who is the question directed to, I
ask the hon. –
MR. MARSHALL:
Me.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. MARSHALL:
Mr. Speaker, as I said earlier, I had
a chance to take a look at that study last night and
there has been information sent by the Atlantic Lottery
Corporation, but they can make their own arguments, Mr.
Speaker. As I said, we are not necessarily an advocate
for the position they have espoused. We have reduced the
number of VLT machines by over 25 per cent in this
Province – 25.1 I think is the actual number. Another
seventy-three machines were removed on April 1.
The best argument in favour of
on-line gambling is the fact that you can control things
that are not controlled right now. They mention, for
example, that their PlaySphere, their Web site, has been
called by Mark Griffiths, Professor of Gambling Studies
at Nottingham Trent University in the U.K., as the most
responsible gambling site in the world. I mentioned
earlier that report from McGill University which talks
about that the on-line industry’s arsenal of technology
gives you an opportunity for some consumer protection
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MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The hon. the Member for the
District of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Maybe the minister did not hear my
question. Does the minister have risk assessment reports
on on-line gambling and would he make those – now I add
– risk assessment reports, if he has them, available to
this House?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. MARSHALL:
I am only aware of the prevalence
studies that we spoke about yesterday. I am sure the
hon. member has that, but if there are any such studies
I would be happy to make them available. I will consult
with my colleague, the Minister of Health. If we have
any studies that can add help to the debate that is
going to go on, then I will be happy to share them.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
The minister has made much
reference today, and he just did again, to holding
consultations and there will be ongoing discussions and
consultations. I would like to know from the minister if
he is willing to hold province-wide consultations
regarding governments’ dependence on VLTs and the
potential for on-line gambling to hear what the people
of the Province have to say?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. MARSHALL:
Mr. Speaker, I have not committed to
any consultations. All I said is that our government,
because of the fact that our VLT action plan is now
coming to an end, this is the final year of a five-year
plan, that we will now determine which way the
government is going to go forward. When we do that, I
will be happy to announce that here in the House.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The time allotted for Oral Questions
has expired.