MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
After the Régie decision out of
Quebec was delivered related to transmission capacity
for Lower Churchill power, the Premier stated that he
did not want to go through Quebec anyway, and the
Maritime route was always his preference.
I ask the Premier:
How far along are you in
discussions on the Maritime route and what time frames
are you looking at for its development?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, my preference was always
the Maritime route but that was because it was a
personal preference. I think it was more to get away
from Quebec than anything, but it also has to be a
rational decision and an economic decision and based on
good financial consideration. So as a result, all the
way through what we have done is we have done parallel
plans. We have looked at the Quebec route and moving all
or most of the power into Ontario but we have also, on a
parallel basis, simultaneously looked at the Maritime
route, and the Atlantic route.
As we all know, that is more
expensive because it involves underwater transmission.
It is well along. A lot of studies have been done. We
have left that work primarily to Nalcor. Of course, they
work with the minister’s department, the Department of
Natural Resources, but a lot of studies have been done.
A lot of work has been done over the years basically on
the underwater development as well. It goes right back
to the Lower Churchill Development Corporation twenty or
thirty years ago. Timelines are not finite on this. This
is an evolving circumstance because everything is still
tied into environmental approval, finalization of the
Aboriginal piece, but from an economic perspective we
are in a situation where we have enough information to
really sit down and talk with any industrial developer
at any point in time.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Any potential Maritime route would
have to go through New Brunswick. The Premier of New
Brunswick and his energy minister are both quoted in
this weekend’s telegram that they have not been
approached by the Province to discuss any options
related to the route.
I ask the Premier:
If the Maritime route was his
preference, and he indicates that it still is, why
haven’t you started discussions with the Province of New
Brunswick who would definitely be a potential partner,
if not a customer in this project?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, I did not hear exactly
what the minister said nor have I read exactly what
either the Premier or the minister have said but I can
tell you quite clearly, we have been talking to New
Brunswick for some considerable period of time. At what
level, whether - the Premier and I have had discussions
at just a general level. However, Nalcor Energy and New
Brunswick Hydro were into fairly detailed discussions,
quite frankly, prior to them pulling the plug and going
to Quebec and looking at the Quebec alternative. When
that happened and they were doing their deal with Quebec
we obviously pulled back and just let that evolve. Of
course, we know what the outcome of that was, that was
finally dissolved and that was the end of that.
So, we are now, even as recently -
if I remember correctly, it was last week, had a
conference call with the Atlantic Premiers to discuss
Atlantic co-operation with regard to a full Atlantic
energy corridor. That would involve the premiers working
together, their departments of energy and or natural
resources working together, their deputy ministers, as
well as the federal government being involved in putting
up money for studies which has already been allocated.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It is certainly not the impression
that was left by the Premier of New Brunswick.
In the same article, however, the
Premier of New Brunswick did state that it is estimated
that the price per kilowatt hour of electricity could be
in the range of sixteen cents. This certainly does not
seem like cheap power. This is the first time, however,
that we have seen a cost attached to the purchasing of
Lower Churchill power.
I ask the Premier:
If this costing by the New
Brunswick Premier is accurate, and if not, what are the
estimates currently being used by Nalcor to determine
whether this route is feasible?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, the Government of New
Brunswick has already indicated to us that it appears
that – I do not know if I use the right term – the
Premier was misquoted with regard to his article, or
whatever release he did there last week. He had talked,
I think, about the economic feasibility of the project.
He talked about the technical feasibility of the project
because of voltage leak.
However, let me assure this House
and all hon. members and the people of Newfoundland and
Labrador, that this certainly is a feasible project. It
is certainly technically feasible, it is economically
feasible. From a perspective of the cost, I can tell you
that this particular project is the lowest cost, the
cheapest hydro-electric project in all of North America.
With regard to disclosing
confidential information that would be very, very
important in any negotiation, I would not be prepared to
do that. As a matter of fact, I cannot even give you the
exact number because I do not know it.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It would seem that if the Premier
of New Brunswick is putting out numbers on the cost of
per kilowatt power of the Lower Churchill and those
numbers are wrong, I would think that it is incumbent
upon the Premier and Nalcor to make those corrections.
So I think it is time to start talking what the cost
will be to generate that electricity. Mr. Speaker, we
know that the US market is highly competitive for energy
purchases and one of our direct competitors will be
Hydro-Quebec.
So I ask the Premier:
How competitive will we be in the
marketplace, and have you secured any long-term
customers that are willing to sign on to this power
agreement for the Lower Churchill?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, I just said it before
and I will say it again. This is the lowest cost
hydro-electric project in all of North America. That is
equivalent to – could deal head on with La Romaine or
any other projects that come on stream from Quebec.
So from our perspective - this one
really slays me to be quite honest with you. Here we are
with the best projects, with the cheapest project. We
have a situation where we have the Province of Quebec,
who have already skinned us alive on the Upper Churchill
and are not prepared to just sort of, stand aside and
work with us - and we will pay. We will pay for
upgrades; we will pay for transmission costs. We could
provide the Government of Quebec, the people of Quebec
with probably $200 million a year, basically, in rental
fees, but yet they are prepared to try and block us
every step of the way.
I can guarantee this House and the
hon. members opposite and the people of Newfoundland and
Labrador that we will not allow them to stand in our
way. We will keep pushing forward. We will keep fighting
the regulatory process and we will make sure that our
project, which is the best in North America, will
eventually come to fruition.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
We have one province out there
saying it is going to be costly power, we have the
Premier saying it is going to be the lowest cost power,
but nobody is showing us the numbers. I think it is time
to start showing the numbers. It is one thing to
continuously say it is feasible, it is another thing to
start proving that it is.
Mr. Speaker, Premier Graham also
indicated that the project has significant obstacles
such as technical issues, as the Premier just alluded
to. The New Brunswick Minister of Energy has even stated
that the Lower Churchill project could be at least ten
to fifteen years out.
I ask the Premier today:
How significant are these
technical issues and what impact will they have on the
feasibility of the Lower Churchill project?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, I have already stated, I
have indicated that even the Government of New
Brunswick, officials from the department in New
Brunswick have contacted my office to indicate that
perhaps the – and I cannot give you the exact terms
because I (inaudible) to the conversation, but perhaps
the Premier was quoted out of context. That is probably
the fairest I can be to the Premier of New Brunswick in
these particular circumstances.
We know the cost, we know the
facts, we know the technical feasibility; we have done
the studies. We have hired the best that money can buy.
We have engaged and we have on our own staff the best
that money can buy within government, within Nalcor
Energy. We are doing this right. We are not doing it the
way it was being done with the last government when it
was all basically being given away in the Grimes
government, of which the Leader of the Opposition was
part of. We are prepared to give them the marketing and
the construction, and ultimately turn the project over
to them; then we would have lost it all. We would have
given it all away again.
That is not going to happen. We
know exactly what we are doing, and we are not going to
give our competitive advantage away by disclosing
numbers in this House that would be of benefit to the
people who we are going to be selling the power to.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
This is the same government who
knew what they were doing on Abitibi as well, Mr.
Speaker. They also said that they had the best legal
minds in the world, Mr. Speaker, when they did that
deal.
I ask the Premier:
Is he saying today, and to confirm
for me that there are no technical issues that will
impact on the feasibility of the Maritime transmission
route?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, we certainly did know
what we were doing with Abitibi. There is absolutely no
doubt about it whatsoever.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
We are now seeing today that the
company that has been losing half a billion dollars a
quarter is now going to go through a restructuring. It
is going to be slimmer, it is going to be leaner, and it
is going to be fitter. We know how it has done that. We
know how it has done it. It has dumped off its
environmental liabilities. It has sold off assets. It
has closed down mills all over the country. So basically
what it is has done is taken all of its financial
obligations and dumped them on somebody else, but by
doing by what we did, which the hon. member opposite
agreed with and has stated so publicly, we have saved
the Province from the embarrassment of having being left
with all of that liability.
From our own perspective, as far
as the Upper Churchill goes and the Lower Churchill
goes, that is a great project. It is a good project. It
is a project that we can be very proud of, but we will
not give that away either, and we will continue to stay
the course.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I ask the
Premier again if he will confirm to the people of the
Province today that there are no technical issues that
will impact upon the feasibility of the Maritime
transmission option under the Lower Churchill project.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
There absolutely will be technical
issues that will impact upon the project. Anybody with a
clue at all would know that there is going to be some
technical issues when you do a $6 billion to $12 billion
project.
I can tell the hon. member
opposite that there will be no technical difficulties
that will be a complete obstacle that would ever prevent
that project from happening. All she has to do is read
the journals.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
The problem is what the hon. member
opposite is doing is reading the nonsense that is being
put out by Hydro-Quebec, that is being put out through
journalists that write articles in The Globe and Mail
that say this technology is not available anywhere else
in the world when there are all kinds of examples.
Whether they happen to be in Europe, whether they happen
to be in Tasmania, they are everywhere. So she should
stop reading Quebec propaganda and believing in it, and
believe in Newfoundland and Labrador.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
It is a very typical show that you
see in Question Period. Whenever the government has the
heat put on them, when there are questions they do not
want to answer, the first thing they do, Mr. Speaker, is
they stand up and attack the person who is asking the
questions – question their patronage.
Mr. Speaker, the Premier cannot
have it both ways. It is either the Premier of New
Brunswick is right that there is some technical impact
or there is not, so he cannot have it both ways.
Mr. Speaker, before any Lower
Churchill power project can be transmitted between
Labrador and the Gulf of St. Lawrence, an environmental
assessment study will have to be completed. We know that
the environmental assessments have not been filed for
the Gulf of St. Lawrence.
I ask the Premier:
When will these environmental
assessments be filed, what are the projected costs of
these studies and when will they be completed?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the environmental
assessment for the generation has been filed now for a
long time. In fact, it will be going through the public
hearings come the fall. The environmental assessment for
the transmission has been filed as well, Mr. Speaker,
and it was certainly open to public comment for the
member opposite or anybody in the public to comment on.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
On Wednesday, we were briefed by
Nalcor, and I put the question to Ed Martin. He informed
me at that time that there was no environmental
assessment on the Maritime route, and
I ask the minister to clarify her
comments.
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Environment
and Conservation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS JOHNSON:
Mr. Speaker, we deal with the
environmental assessments that are submitted by the
proponents, and those are certainly up for review. So,
Mr. Speaker, I am not sure where the member is going,
but those are certainly filed on the Web site. It is
open for public comment. It is open for the public to
comment on. The transmission route has been filed.
Perhaps if you want to clarify it further, I can help
you out some more.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
For the minister’s information, he
informed us that the EIS on the generation of power was
filed, the EIS on bringing the route to the Island was
filed, but not the Maritime route, I say to the
minister.
I ask you, when
government intends, through Nalcor, to file the
environmental assessment on crossing the Gulf of St.
Lawrence as part of the Maritime route for the
transmission of power?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier and
Minister of Natural Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, the Leader of the
Opposition is getting ahead of herself again, as usual.
Mr. Speaker, we have not filed the
environmental assessment across the Gulf of St. Lawrence
at this point in time because we have not decided which
route. We have not yet sanctioned the project, Mr.
Speaker. Until we decide where we have the transmission
capacity, only then will it become necessary, if we
decide to go the Maritime route, to submit an
environmental proposal. That will be done at Nalcor at
the appropriate time, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Finally, Mr. Speaker, it goes to show
once again that the Minister of Environment has no idea
what is going on with environmental files in this
Province, not even a project as big as the Lower
Churchill, I say. Mr. Speaker, finally, we get the right
response.
Now, Mr. Speaker, let me ask the
minister this, now that we have established and you have
admitted that there has been no EIS filed on crossing
the Gulf of St. Lawrence, and we know there is not too
many ways to cross the Gulf of St. Lawrence,
I ask the minister if she can tell
us when the EIS will be filed and when we can expect to
see it completed? Will it take two years, three years,
five years or ten years, Minister?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier and
Minister of Natural Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, we will file the EIS
when it is appropriate to do so. It will be appropriate
to do so once we get transmission rights through New
Brunswick and decide that that is the most appropriate
route to wheel our power. Mr. Speaker, we have not ruled
out, at this point in time, wheeling power through
Quebec and if we wheel the bulk of our power through
Quebec, an environmental assessment will not be required
of the Gulf.
Mr. Speaker, the issues we are
working on at the moment are transmission of power
through Quebec, transmission of power through the
Maritimes. We are using the OATT process in both of
those circumstances, Mr. Speaker.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Nevertheless, Minister, you know the
EIS would have to be completed before there is any
Maritime transmission route of Lower Churchill power.
Mr. Speaker, last year the Premier
stated that he planned to put power lines through Gros
Morne Park but backed off when public pressure was
mounting against the plan. Since then, the government
has stated that they plan to put transmission lines
through the Long Range Mountains.
I ask the Premier today:
Has Nalcor evaluated the technical
ramifications of that plan, and how much will this route
add to the cost of developing the Maritime route for
access?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier and
Minister of Natural Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, before I answer the
question, I just want to point out to the Leader of the
Opposition that we would not take on millions of dollars
of liability doing environmental assessments that are
not required, that is why we need to decide which way we
are going to wheel our power before we engage in full
environmental assessments of certain routes.
Now, Mr. Speaker, on the second
issue there are a range of transmission routes
undertaken and studied when Nalcor did the financials
around this project. There are at least four to five
routes that are considered to be - that we could work
with in terms of bringing that power out of Labrador and
down through the Island. All of them have been assessed
internally, Mr. Speaker, and all of them have been
costed internally.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
What we do know is that government
is still looking at the Maritime route as a preference;
however, they will not tell us how much it is going to
cost to generate power through that route, whether it is
going to be feasible in terms of giving us numbers. They
are not filing any environmental assessment to make it
happen through that access. They are not talking to New
Brunswick, Mr. Speaker, and last week in a technical
briefing with the officials from Nalcor, we asked for
the timelines for developing a Lower Churchill project.
They said they would have to check with the Premier
before that information could be released. In the
article this weekend the Premier stated that he would
have to check with Nalcor.
I ask the Premier:
Now that you have had an
opportunity to check, or one of your talks back and
forth, how many years are we talking here before we see
the Lower Churchill developed in a manner that is
feasible both from a cost and technical perspective?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Obviously, it is something that the
Leader of the Opposition is not used to. There is
obviously a mutual respect between the Premier’s office,
the government, and the Department of Natural Resources,
and Newfoundland and Labrador Hydro and or Nalcor. We
check with each other. We do not, on the eighth floor,
decide that for political reasons we are going to do a
deal with Quebec, and we are going to give it all away
to Quebec, and we are going to let them build it, and we
are going to let them finance it, and we are going to
let them sell it, and then finally when we do not have
enough money to complete it, we are going to let them
take it over. Then not only would a Liberal government
have given them the Upper Churchill and taken all of
that away and costing us billions and billions of
dollars every year - we could have been a have Province
probably twenty years ago if it had not been for the
Liberal government, but no, what was going to happen
with the next Liberal government, the Grimes government?
They were going to give it all away again, because do
you know what? They were not going to check with
Newfoundland and Labrador Hydro. They were just going to
go up and tell the officials at Newfoundland and
Labrador Hydro, this is the way it is because we know
what we are doing. Well, that is not the way this
government operates. We work collectively with them. We
work together with them. We share information. We
co-operate and when the time is right that project…
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I would like to remind the Premier
that the only thing given away in recent years is a free
tab to AbitibiBowater when they pulled out of Grand
Falls-Windsor, Mr. Speaker.
Anyway, Mr. Speaker, the Premier
and the government opposite likes to talk about their
preceding governments but they do not like to tell us
what the plan and the scope of the plan is that they
have themselves. It is just all rhetoric, Mr. Speaker.
On Friday, the Premier issued a
press release encouraging both sides in the Vale strike
to find a resolution. Well, it was nice to finally hear
some word from government, I say to the members
opposite, but three years ago this government stated
that they were considering bringing forward
anti-replacement worker legislation.
I ask the Premier today:
Keep it simple, and tell these
workers enough time has passed, whether your government
will bring forward the legislation or whether it is
something that you are not entertaining?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Premier.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
PREMIER WILLIAMS:
Mr. Speaker, over a year - nearly a
year ago I actually went to the picket line. So I met
with these workers on the picket line in Happy
Valley-Goose Bay. The minister has met with the company
on at least one occasion, maybe other occasions, has met
with the union, has met with the President of the
Federation of Labour, has spoken with her in telephone
conversations. I have spoken with her personally, face
to face on this. I have spoken to her in telephone
conversations about this issue.
We have been constantly on top of
this issue. I can say it has been discussed at Cabinet
on several occasions. It is something that is very, very
important to government. What I decided to do last week
was to call the Premier of Ontario because quite
frankly, I think, as we all know; the problem in this
strike is in Ontario. It is not going to be resolved
until it is resolved in Ontario. If I remember
correctly, I think there are like 3,000 workers that are
affected in Ontario. Even if this government brought in
anti-scab legislation, it is quite possible that our
actions would not even end the strike.
So I phoned the Premier of
Ontario, who happened to be in Israel at the time, and
suggested to him, and he agreed, that we work together.
That we monitor this very closely and that we encourage
both sides to get to the table and get this resolved as
soon as possible. So we are very concerned.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Leader of the
Opposition.
MS JONES:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
I say to the Premier, it might not
have ended the strike immediately but it certainly would
have put a lot of pressure on this company to the point
that they probably would have ended up in shutdown mode.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the government
today, because the commitment was made to these workers
several years ago that there would be some consideration
given to anti-replacement worker legislation. I have
been on those picket lines many times in the last year,
I say to the government, Mr. Speaker, and I have met
with the company as well. These people deserve to have
an answer. We know that the Board of Trade, the
Federation of Business and the Manufacturers Association
do not want to see anti-replacement worker legislation
in the Province. However, we do know that the unions are
supportive of it.
I ask the government today, to let
the people know what your response is:
Is this doable in Newfoundland and
Labrador or is it not, so that these workers can get on
with trying to settle what needs to be settled on the
ground in this strike?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Deputy Premier and
Minister of Natural Resources.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MS DUNDERDALE:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, as the Premier
answered in the previous question, I have had the
opportunity to speak with the Nunatsiavut government,
with Vale Inco, with the union and with the Federation
of Labour. At all of these meetings, Mr. Speaker,
replacement worker legislation has been discussed. They
understand very clearly the difficulties in doing it. We
continue to examine the issue, Mr. Speaker, and try to
work through the complications.
Mr. Speaker, they also acknowledge
at all levels that this will not end the strike. Worker
replacement legislation would certainly put more
pressure on the company, but, Mr. Speaker, at the same
time, the problem certainly seems to be in Ontario with
the nickel bonus.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Port de Grave.
MR. BUTLER:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, another day and
another ferry out of service. The residents of Bell
Island are now experiencing three to five hour delays
since The Flanders is in for repairs and The
Nonia is the only vessel left servicing the area.
There are obvious problems when two vessels that service
Bell Island have to go in for significant repairs within
a month of each other.
I ask the minister:
What types of repairs are being
conducted on The Flanders and when can the
residents of Bell Island expect a dependable and
reliable service?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Transportation and Works.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. HEDDERSON:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
Just in response to the member’s
question from across the way. Certainly, The Flanders
was put out of commission over the weekend. She had some
damage done to her bow thrusters and we hope to have it
repaired in the next number of days. In the meantime, we
are doing everything we can to keep some level of
service to the people of Bell Island.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Port de Grave.
MR. BUTLER:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
When communities such as Bell
Island experience delays in their ferry service many
concerns arise. Residents of Bell Island rely on the
ferry to get to work in St. John’s and the surrounding
area and they rely on it for social reasons, but most
importantly medical emergencies and appointments.
I ask the minister:
What other solutions has your
department been considering to ensure that these
residents are able to fully and reliably access when
necessary for travelling from Bell Island to St. John’s?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of
Transportation and Works.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. HEDDERSON:
Yes, Mr. Speaker, we are fully aware
as a government of our responsibilities, not only to the
people of Bell Island but the people of the Province. In
these cases we do everything we possibly can to make
sure there is a level of service that will meet their
basic needs.
In this particular case, in
emergency situations we will deal with through air or
other means in order to take care of that particular
situation.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
Mr. Speaker, last Thursday the
Minister of Finance said that government was coming to
the end of its five year video lottery terminal action
plan and that government will now decide which way to
go. The minister did not support the idea of holding
public consultations. Mr. Speaker, a sensible way to
proceed would be to hold broad consultations that would
aid government in developing its next steps in dealing
with the addictive nature of video lottery terminals.
Mr. Speaker, I ask it the Minister
of Finance: Since 72 per cent of problem gamblers are
VLT addicts, why won’t the minister commit to holding
consultations around the Province to get input?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. MARSHALL:
Mr. Speaker, the one thing this
government has done since it came into office in 2003
with respect to VLTs is reduce the number. We have
reduced the number of VLTs in this Province by 25 per
cent. We have reduced hours of access. We have reduced
the pace of play. We eliminated the stop button from the
machines.
We hear from the general public on
this issue. People have very strong views on all sides
on this particular issue. The options are clear. It will
be necessary for government, when the current policy
ends on March 31, 2011, it will be appropriate then for
government to get together and consider the options that
are before it and make the necessary decision to move
forward.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you very much, Mr. Speaker.
This government holds
consultations on all kinds of issues. Right now we have
got a whole set that are going to happen with regard to
environmental issues. So I ask them minister to look at
what is happening in other departments.
Mr. Speaker, the Minister of
Finance said last week during Question Period on
Thursday that the Atlantic Lottery Corporation had
provided government with some information regarding VLTs
and on-line poker.
Mr. Speaker, I ask the Minister of
Finance: What kind of information did ALC provide, and
will he release this information to the House?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. MARSHALL:
Mr. Speaker, I think it is in the
public domain that the ALC has contacted this
government, along with the other governments of the
Atlantic Provinces, to allow it to move forward into new
areas, including on-line poker.
The Government of Prince Edward
Island has, in fact, passed legislation to allow that to
happen. The Atlantic Finance Ministers intend to meet at
the FPT meeting in Prince Edward Island next month to
discuss this particular issue. I will be bringing the
matter to my colleagues in order for them to be informed
and to make a decision on this issue. At that point,
government will make its decision.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Member for the District
of Signal Hill-Quidi Vidi.
MS MICHAEL:
Thank you, Mr. Speaker.
In the spirit of openness and
transparency, I would ask this minister to release
documents so everybody else can have the information to
give feedback to him.
Mr. Speaker, last week we heard,
during Question Period and debate on the NDP private
member’s motion, that the Ministers of Finance, Health
and Community Services, and Business are all very
concerned about problem gambling. However, Mr. Speaker,
when asking the Minister of Finance if his government
would nominate a representative from the Department of
Health and Community Services to sit on the board of ALC,
the minister just listed who sits there now – basically
refusing to answer the question.
So I ask the minister: Why is he
against nominating a representative to the ALC board
whose responsibility would be the health and well-being
of the people in our Province?
MR. SPEAKER:
The hon. the Minister of Finance and
President of Treasury Board.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. MARSHALL:
Very simple, there is no vacancy.
SOME HON. MEMBERS:
Hear, hear!
MR. SPEAKER:
Order, please!
The time allotted for questions
and answers has expired.